Price is right.

forcefraser
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Perkin Warbeck wrote: 20 Jul 2019, 17:48 Dave Allen was put on oxygen and taken to hospital on a stretcher after the fight. He took a lot of hard shots over the ten rounds.

I hope no one says he quit, the fact is there's no quit in David Allen.

Barker pulled him out because he saw Allen was disorientated and possibly concussed.
Barker didn't pull him out. Allen asked him to stop it.
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Price tagged Allen in the first round and dave didn't like it one bit, price worked his jab well and hit Allen with some very heavy shots. Dave Allen has a very good chin!
Ilya Muromets
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Allen sounds like a real classy guy.

"Dave Allen says career 'probably done' after defeat by David Price"


https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/49063365
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I personally backed Price stoppage and also backed Price stoppage rounds 1-3 on Skybet as I mentioned in the betting thread.

It was a total miss-match and I was surprised I was one of the few who thought so.
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David Price's problems are predominantly psychological. They stem from him doubting himself, then he burns through his stamina reserves at a tremendous rate in the form of nervous energy. When he is tired his punch resistance nosedives ... and it isn't that great to start out with.

Price can doubt himself from the outset like the Thompson rematch, or he can be made to doubt himself by being pressured in the fight likeThompson 1, Teper etc.

When Price genuinely believes he has the beating of an opponent who is not on his level, he enters the ring confident and relaxed. When the opponent fails to make him doubt himself, he doesn't burn energy at an abnormal rate, and the opponent has to contend not only with a superior fighter, but very likely the best a 36 year old Price could hope to be.

I did wonder just WTF DB was telling Allen in the corner because he made no attempt to counter as Price threw punches and just took it in turns to throw arm-punches at Price's guard, or alternatively soak up big shots from Price.

Ultimately though it's all about levels and while I don't berate myself for picking Helenius over Washington, I feel like a complete fool that I didn't foresee how this one would play out. With the benefit of hindsight it now looks predictable not to say inevitable :doh:
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In my defence I guess the answer lies in how knackered and vulnerable Price looked against Kash Ali - a man I would expect Allen to brush aside.
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Very good performance from David Price, looked more composed and in control of the fight then in his fight against Povetkin and no incidents from the opponent like in his last fight against Kash Ali. Really looked head and shoulders above David Allen both literally and skill wise.

I don't see him pushing for a world title but could see him trying for the European title (Agit Kabayel) with the right strategy and training camp behind him. Could see him fighting Hughie Fury or Chisora for a big named and British ranked opponent.
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northern wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 18:30 Very good performance from David Price, looked more composed and in control of the fight then in his fight against Povetkin and no incidents from the opponent like in his last fight against Kash Ali. Really looked head and shoulders above David Allen both literally and skill wise.

I don't see him pushing for a world title but could see him trying for the European title (Agit Kabayel) with the right strategy and training camp behind him. Could see him fighting Hughie Fury or Chisora for a big named and British ranked opponent.
I don't think he is Euro level. UK level suits him fine. Kabayel would bash him. But that was the best I've seen him in a long time it seems.
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oogiebe wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 18:36
northern wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 18:30 Very good performance from David Price, looked more composed and in control of the fight then in his fight against Povetkin and no incidents from the opponent like in his last fight against Kash Ali. Really looked head and shoulders above David Allen both literally and skill wise.

I don't see him pushing for a world title but could see him trying for the European title (Agit Kabayel) with the right strategy and training camp behind him. Could see him fighting Hughie Fury or Chisora for a big named and British ranked opponent.
I don't think he is Euro level. UK level suits him fine. Kabayel would bash him. But that was the best I've seen him in a long time it seems.
Fair comment to say, I only mentioned the european title as it seems to be the only one possible for him to challenge for in the near future since I just can't see him fighting for either the British or Commonwealth titles with Daniel Dubois and Joe Joyce holding them.
Otherwise it would have to be a world organisations version of a title (WBA International, WBO European etc.) and they just don't carry the same respect as a British, Commonwealth or European title match to end his career on.
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northern wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 19:18
oogiebe wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 18:36

I don't think he is Euro level. UK level suits him fine. Kabayel would bash him. But that was the best I've seen him in a long time it seems.
Fair comment to say, I only mentioned the european title as it seems to be the only one possible for him to challenge for in the near future since I just can't see him fighting for either the British or Commonwealth titles with Daniel Dubois and Joe Joyce holding them.
Otherwise it would have to be a world organisations version of a title (WBA International, WBO European etc.) and they just don't carry the same respect as a British, Commonwealth or European title match to end his career on.
It would be a nice way to end his career. I agree.
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