Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

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Who wins the rematch?

Poll ended at 22 Nov 2019, 20:55

Wilder - Decision
2
2%
Wilder - T/KO
90
81%
DRAW
3
3%
Ortiz - T/KO
13
12%
Ortiz - Decision
3
3%
 
Total votes: 111

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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 9, 2019?

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Enlightened-One wrote: 17 Jul 2019, 20:14
oogiebe wrote: 17 Jul 2019, 19:53
LMFAO!!! What the hell are you going on about. You don't even make sense! :lol: Prove to us Wilder is ducking Whyte! Using Hearn's word isn't "loads" of anything except shvt. Tell us why Wilder would even duck Jillian Whyte. I keep asking the same questions and you keep coming back with insults and insanity! I have to move on. My ribs are hurting! :lol:
I can’t keep participating in you trolling, since you’re not a boxing fan, never have been and have never once attempted to prove the accuracy of your own words.
BEEP! This is a recording.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 9, 2019?

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NOV !!!! WTF !!!

he's boxed 2 mins so far in 2019

:brick:

utter pants

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funso banjo baby wrote: 19 Jul 2019, 16:20 NOV !!!! WTF !!!

he's boxed 2 mins so far in 2019

:brick:

utter pants

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It doesn't matter if this fight was September or December, Wilder wasn't going to fight more than twice. Who does at the top of the division?
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Thirteen votes for Ortiz. Seriously ? :o
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candyslim wrote: 19 Jul 2019, 16:28 Thirteen votes for Ortiz. Seriously ? :o
C'mon, Wilder haters are abound in this UK dominated forum. I expected more.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 9, 2019?

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I'm not his greatest fan myself, but I like to think I can be objective. Ortiz is two years older and looked terrible in his performances since his last title shot.

I picked Wilder to win last time because I thought Ortiz got his chance too late, and he won't have been getting better with experience :D
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Wilder improving, Ortiz not. I think this time Wilder will win easily.
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Wilder must win this.
Ortiz is just getting older and older, with his best win coming against Jennings in his mid-40s.

Really don't know why this fight is happening
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Ostensibly it's in order to clear up any lingering doubts about the first fight, but in reality it's because Al sees Ortiz as a safe opponent whose name still means something and looks good on the record.
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oogiebe wrote: 19 Jul 2019, 16:29
candyslim wrote: 19 Jul 2019, 16:28 Thirteen votes for Ortiz. Seriously ? :o
C'mon, Wilder haters are abound in this UK dominated forum. I expected more.
He came within a whisker of beating him. Nothing wrong with picking Ortiz here. The thing his haters are doing is pretending this is a shitty fight to make, yeah slim, that's you. :lol:
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Wilder since the Fury fight = Breazeale and Ortiz

Fury since the Wilder fight = the bouncer at Sgt Schultz Bier & Weiner garden and . . .

AJ = TFKoB twice

TFKoB = AJ twice

Who is the slacker?
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Finkel wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 19:11 Wilder must win this.
Ortiz is just getting older and older, with his best win coming against Jennings in his mid-40s.

Really don't know why this fight is happening
Huh, watch Wilder-Ortiz 1.
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I don't think it's a shitty fight we've just seen it before. I was quite happy for him to replace Miller but Al wanted him for Deontay. He won't have got better in the interim and has done little to earn a second shot when Whyte is still waiting for his chance after nearly two years as the WBC number one.

Still there's no point engaging with you OTO on the subject. In your eyes anyone who dares to even consider thinking a word of criticism about your man is a hater. If that's what you want to believe go right ahead.
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Is it going to be Wilder, the ref, and the ring doctor vs. Ortiz again, or just Wilder vs. Ortiz this time?
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Ilya Muromets wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 13:35 Is it going to be Wilder, the ref, and the ring doctor vs. Ortiz again, or just Wilder vs. Ortiz this time?
Ortiz has gotten older and slower now. Wilder won't need help this time.
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gilgamesh wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 13:36
Ilya Muromets wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 13:35 Is it going to be Wilder, the ref, and the ring doctor vs. Ortiz again, or just Wilder vs. Ortiz this time?
Ortiz has gotten older and slower now. Wilder won't need help this time.
Just like last time.
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oogiebe wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 13:37
gilgamesh wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 13:36

Ortiz has gotten older and slower now. Wilder won't need help this time.
Just like last time.
Whether or not he needed it I don't know, but he got it last time.
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candyslim wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 13:21 I don't think it's a shitty fight we've just seen it before. I was quite happy for him to replace Miller but Al wanted him for Deontay. He won't have got better in the interim and has done little to earn a second shot when Whyte is still waiting for his chance after nearly two years as the WBC number one.

Still there's no point engaging with you OTO on the subject. In your eyes anyone who dares to even consider thinking a word of criticism about your man is a hater. If that's what you want to believe go right ahead.
Not anyone, in particularly you because you're so full of shit. Agreed that there's no point yet you can't help yourself. At least you spared me another unreadable novel trying to convince yourself you're not deeply biased. I suppose that's an improvement. :TU:
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oogiebe wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 13:37
gilgamesh wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 13:36

Ortiz has gotten older and slower now. Wilder won't need help this time.
Just like last time.


"With a little help from his friends"


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His friends this time are Father Time, and his own improvement. He'll win easier this time.
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gilgamesh wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 13:47 His friends this time are Father Time, and his own improvement. He'll win easier this time.

You're probably right - but I'm rooting for Ortiz.
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Ilya Muromets wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 13:53
gilgamesh wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 13:47 His friends this time are Father Time, and his own improvement. He'll win easier this time.

You're probably right - but I'm rooting for Ortiz.
It would certainly shake things up even further if Ortiz won, but I just don't see how he does, aside from the old Puncher's chance, which is always there.

We do know he can hurt Wilder, and of course Wilder can hurt him or anybody else for that matter. I feel like Wilder will be more confident, and willing to open up and attack with KO intent sooner. I expect drama earlier in the bout this time.
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Tony1244 wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 09:22
Finkel wrote: 21 Jul 2019, 19:11 Wilder must win this.
Ortiz is just getting older and older, with his best win coming against Jennings in his mid-40s.

Really don't know why this fight is happening
Huh, watch Wilder-Ortiz 1.
I did, but as I say his Ortiz's career high win was beating Jennings in 2015. He's an old man being promoted on this false idea that anyone would still be bothered to duck his geriatric ass

I would prefer to see Wilder in with a live dog rather than yet another cherry pick

At the end of the day Wilder was up on the cards when he KO'd Ortiz.
Should we replay Washington or Spilzka? They also gave Wilder problems...

Kownacki would be preferable to this, or a legitimate live dog like Parker or Whyte
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Onetimeonly wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 13:40
candyslim wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 13:21 I don't think it's a shitty fight we've just seen it before. I was quite happy for him to replace Miller but Al wanted him for Deontay. He won't have got better in the interim and has done little to earn a second shot when Whyte is still waiting for his chance after nearly two years as the WBC number one.

Still there's no point engaging with you OTO on the subject. In your eyes anyone who dares to even consider thinking a word of criticism about your man is a hater. If that's what you want to believe go right ahead.
Not anyone, in particularly you because you're so full of poo. Agreed that there's no point yet you can't help yourself. At least you spared me another unreadable novel trying to convince yourself you're not deeply biased. I suppose that's an improvement. :TU:
Oh just go back to sucking on his cock you tedious motherfucker.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 9, 2019?

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candyslim wrote: 23 Jul 2019, 02:50
Onetimeonly wrote: 22 Jul 2019, 13:40
Not anyone, in particularly you because you're so full of poo. Agreed that there's no point yet you can't help yourself. At least you spared me another unreadable novel trying to convince yourself you're not deeply biased. I suppose that's an improvement. :TU:
Oh just go back to sucking on his cock you tedious motherfucker.
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