Is Daven Haney really so good ?

ValMar
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Re: Is Daven Haney really so good ?

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margaret thatcher wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 13:25 Top Rank has been pretty open about Loma ducking Haney. Of course, they don't openly say ducking, but 'we're not going to fight Haney before Loma faces the IBF winner' + 'Loma is moving right back to 130 after next fight' = you know what it is

TBH, from their perspective they are making clearly the right move.
I don't think Loma is a ducker, his team might be a little bit cautious. Anyway, we will know soon.................
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Re: Is Daven Haney really so good ?

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margaret thatcher wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 13:25 Top Rank has been pretty open about Loma ducking Haney. Of course, they don't openly say ducking, but 'we're not going to fight Haney before Loma faces the IBF winner' + 'Loma is moving right back to 130 after next fight' = you know what it is

TBH, from their perspective they are making clearly the right move.
True. Haney would quite possibly take his head clean off.
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Re: Is Daven Haney really so good ?

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ValMar wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 13:28
margaret thatcher wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 13:25 Top Rank has been pretty open about Loma ducking Haney. Of course, they don't openly say ducking, but 'we're not going to fight Haney before Loma faces the IBF winner' + 'Loma is moving right back to 130 after next fight' = you know what it is

TBH, from their perspective they are making clearly the right move.
I don't think Loma is a ducker, his team might be a little bit cautious. Anyway, we will know soon.................
Yet you start a thread about Davis ducking him? What makes it different? I agree that loma would fight anyone. Tank fears nothing after where he came from. One of the worst spots you can imagine.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 13:40
ValMar wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 13:28

I don't think Loma is a ducker, his team might be a little bit cautious. Anyway, we will know soon.................
Yet you start a thread about Davis ducking him? What makes it different? I agree that loma would fight anyone. Tank fears nothing after where he came from. One of the worst spots you can imagine.
I did not claim that Tank would duck Loma. I mean about Tank's team, there is a great difference.
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Best Coast wrote: 16 Sep 2019, 23:25...

I watched that video. A lot of emphasis on pulling muscles. Aren't pushing muscles more relevant to boxing? I attribute my punching strength largely to pushups, but I was old school. I like that thing with the wheels where he pushes out with his feet. I tried it a couple of times, not one like that which I've never seen, but the one with the wheel. The one I did later on was - I'm bad at names - ab wheel or something - I just called them wheelies - the wheel that you push out in front of you with your hands. It's a very inexpensive device and excellent for the abs. But back when I was boxing it was situps I did...until I swtched to isometric ab contractions and found it to be at least as effective and safer, but maybe that was because I had already built up my ab muscles with situps.
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ValMar wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 13:48
Onetimeonly wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 13:40

Yet you start a thread about Davis ducking him? What makes it different? I agree that loma would fight anyone. Tank fears nothing after where he came from. One of the worst spots you can imagine.
I did not claim that Tank would duck Loma. I mean about Tank's team, there is a great difference.
Ok
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Onetimeonly wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 14:10
ValMar wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 13:48

I did not claim that Tank would duck Loma. I mean about Tank's team, there is a great difference.
Ok
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Re: Is Daven Haney really so good ?

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I’m not sure why anyone would think Loma’s ducking Haney...winning belts equals more long term money.... Loma’s quicker, impeccable aim with punches, Getting the crazy angles...watch this video..

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THESURESHOT wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 21:41 I’m not sure why anyone would think Loma’s ducking Haney...winning belts equals more long term money.... Loma’s quicker, impeccable aim with punches, Getting the crazy angles...watch this video..

I agree that Lomassiah is not ducking Haney, yet. Haney is ready though. Does not mean that he would win, although I think that Haney is all wrong for Loma.
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Re: Is Daven Haney really so good ?

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margaret thatcher wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 13:25 Top Rank has been pretty open about Loma ducking Haney. Of course, they don't openly say ducking, but 'we're not going to fight Haney before Loma faces the IBF winner' + 'Loma is moving right back to 130 after next fight' = you know what it is

TBH, from their perspective they are making clearly the right move.
The original intent of Loma moving back to 130 was to get a fight with Davis if I remember right. If this happens now that Davis is at 135 it makes you wonder. Haney can barely make 135 so him going to 130 isn't happening.
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Re: Is Daven Haney really so good ?

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Ilya Muromets wrote: 19 Sep 2019, 13:52
Best Coast wrote: 16 Sep 2019, 23:25...

I watched that video. A lot of emphasis on pulling muscles. Aren't pushing muscles more relevant to boxing? I attribute my punching strength largely to pushups, but I was old school. I like that thing with the wheels where he pushes out with his feet. I tried it a couple of times, not one like that which I've never seen, but the one with the wheel. The one I did later on was - I'm bad at names - ab wheel or something - I just called them wheelies - the wheel that you push out in front of you with your hands. It's a very inexpensive device and excellent for the abs. But back when I was boxing it was situps I did...until I swtched to isometric ab contractions and found it to be at least as effective and safer, but maybe that was because I had already built up my ab muscles with situps.
This is just a small sample of the conditioning workouts and programs Devin is involved in. If you really want to get a better cross-section of the big picture then Haney has his own video channel available on YouTube:

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Thanks.
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Re: Is Daven Haney really so good ?

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If he is ready, lets find out! Loma, Mikey Garcia, T. Lopez, Ryan Garcia?
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