Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Who wins the rematch?

Poll ended at 22 Nov 2019, 20:55

Wilder - Decision
2
2%
Wilder - T/KO
90
81%
DRAW
3
3%
Ortiz - T/KO
13
12%
Ortiz - Decision
3
3%
 
Total votes: 111

Ruthless-RKO
Welterweight
Posts: 100704
Joined: 24 Apr 2016, 11:59

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

Enlightened-One wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 04:52
oogiebe wrote: 20 Nov 2019, 17:22

His median weight throughout his career is around 223. Not sure why any of this means anything really. He was coming off the flu for the first Ortiz fight and he was too light for the Fury fight. Those two were the anomolies. Last 7 fights: 223.5/212.5/214.75/220.75/222/226.25/228.75. Vs Ortiz II...???
I’ve been proven right, once again. Wilder ALWAYS weighs less than 220lbs against threatening decent opposition!
Ortiz I, Fury and Ortiz II?
Ruthless-RKO
Welterweight
Posts: 100704
Joined: 24 Apr 2016, 11:59

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

Luis Nery vs. Emmanuel Rodriguez CANCELLED

The Luis Nery vs. Emmanuel Rodriguez bantamweight fight has been cancelled due to safety reasons for the Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz 2 card on Saturday night. Nery (30-0, 24 KOs) came in ONE pound over the bantamweight limit at 119lbs, and Rodriguez (19-1, 12 KOs) didn’t accept the financial offer to have the fight go ahead for the card.

Rodriguez not fighting due to safety reasons
They’re saying it’s a safety concern for why Rodriguez didn’t take the fight, but it was only one pound that Nery came over, not 4 or 5.

It’s unclear how much extra money Rodriguez wanted to get. Nery’s purse for the card was $300,000 and Rodriguez’s $70,000. Rodriguez might have wanted more than Nery, 24, was willing to give.

Former WBC bantamweight champion Nery was the A-side fighter, who many believe is a future star. Rodriguez is just a good basic fighter, who is coming off of a 2nd round knockout loss to Naoya Inoue. He’s NOT considered a future star like Nery.
----------------------
In another weight-related situation, Julio Ceja failed to make the 122-pound limit by 4.5 pounds, but his PPV bout against WBA super bantamweight champion Brandon Figueroa is still on. Ceja cannot win the belt and it will become vacant if Ceja wins the fight.
Last edited by Ruthless-RKO on 23 Nov 2019, 08:27, edited 1 time in total.
DrDuke
Lightweight
Posts: 13871
Joined: 29 Nov 2017, 09:15

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Post by DrDuke »

Finkel wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 02:28
Tony1244 wrote: 22 Nov 2019, 20:56

Me too. another reason not to buy it.
Honestly if Wilder blows him out in under 3~4 rounds it will be a real signal that he has stepped up in levels.

Would be incredibly impressive if he does it in the first round.

Ortiz is not an ring-rusty/out-of-shape Stiverne or a tailor-made Breazeale
I agree. Well, the first Ortiz fight was a good lesson for Wilder. And then Fury fight. Ortiz appeared to be in a better physical shape now. He's old, but he didn't have hard bouts after Wilder. So Ortiz still looks like a dangerous opponent. If Wilder KOs him early, I'll be impressed too.
adislav123
Super Middleweight
Posts: 1745
Joined: 10 Nov 2012, 19:05

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Post by adislav123 »

ortiz will put a clinic on wilder. outbox him from the opening bell & work up his titanium beard until the corner throws in the towel.

wilder will have problems even touching ortiz.

fair ref, doc & judges would be nice but of course they'll fvck ortiz over
DrDuke
Lightweight
Posts: 13871
Joined: 29 Nov 2017, 09:15

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Post by DrDuke »

adislav123 wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 09:02 ortiz will put a clinic on wilder. outbox him from the opening bell & work up his titanium beard until the corner throws in the towel.

wilder will have problems even touching ortiz.

fair ref, doc & judges would be nice but of course they'll fvck ortiz over
Ortiz is far from being that elusive.
littlepug
Super Middleweight
Posts: 5351
Joined: 03 Jul 2012, 07:17

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Post by littlepug »

Ortiz is old as hell, Wilder has the confidence of already stopping him, this ends early for me
Enlightened-One
Super Lightweight
Posts: 14618
Joined: 19 Jul 2016, 05:12

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Post by Enlightened-One »

Ruthless-RKO wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 05:07
Enlightened-One wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 04:52
I’ve been proven right, once again. Wilder ALWAYS weighs less than 220lbs against threatening decent opposition!
Ortiz I, Fury and Ortiz II?
Yep, those and both Stiverne bouts. :TU:
margaret thatcher
Featherweight
Posts: 39204
Joined: 22 Jul 2019, 15:43

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Post by margaret thatcher »

This PPV got even weaker...imagine if Figurora had also decided not to fight with Ceja being way overweight
Onetimeonly
Super Featherweight
Posts: 11584
Joined: 16 Oct 2018, 06:28

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Post by Onetimeonly »

Sorry card, of course there is no ufc and no big prime time college game. I can already see the extra $90 on my bill.
adislav123
Super Middleweight
Posts: 1745
Joined: 10 Nov 2012, 19:05

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Post by adislav123 »

littlepug wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 09:10 Ortiz is old as hell, Wilder has the confidence of already stopping him, this ends early for me
ortiz is 40 & in tip top shape.

ortiz won the first 5 rounds up until the first knockdown.

wilder was done in in the 7th. if they wouldn't have gifted him that breather against the rules, ortiz would've finished him. 100%.

plus after the final wild pushdown, the referee blocked ortiz from any chance to even try to get up again & waived it off instantly without any count.

wilder would've got a full count plus again some extra recovery time by doc check.
KiwiRider
Super Lightweight
Posts: 26484
Joined: 11 Feb 2017, 22:25

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Post by KiwiRider »

Onetimeonly wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 10:43 Sorry card, of course there is no ufc and no big prime time college game. I can already see the extra $90 on my bill.
Save your money mate :TU:
It really isn't worth it for what they are charging in the US.
Your paying $75 for a really crappy undercard (the best fight now off) and what could possibly be 2 minutes of boxing

Take your money down the knock shop and get slightly longer than 2 minutes worth.
Onetimeonly
Super Featherweight
Posts: 11584
Joined: 16 Oct 2018, 06:28

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Post by Onetimeonly »

KiwiRider wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 13:40
Onetimeonly wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 10:43 Sorry card, of course there is no ufc and no big prime time college game. I can already see the extra $90 on my bill.
Save your money mate :TU:
It really isn't worth it for what they are charging in the US.
Your paying $75 for a really crappy undercard (the best fight now off) and what could possibly be 2 minutes of boxing

Take your money down the knock shop and get slightly longer than 2 minutes worth.
Lol, it's actually just $65! I hear you, but I bought it, nothing else on. I suppose the only justification is the first fight was much better than wilder/fury. Lol. :maybe:
KiwiRider
Super Lightweight
Posts: 26484
Joined: 11 Feb 2017, 22:25

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Post by KiwiRider »

Onetimeonly wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 14:13
KiwiRider wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 13:40

Save your money mate :TU:
It really isn't worth it for what they are charging in the US.
Your paying $75 for a really crappy undercard (the best fight now off) and what could possibly be 2 minutes of boxing

Take your money down the knock shop and get slightly longer than 2 minutes worth.
Lol, it's actually just $65! I hear you, but I bought it, nothing else on. I suppose the only justification is the first fight was much better than wilder/fury. Lol. :maybe:
$31 USD in my country live in HD.
And I'm still not sure I will get it
Onetimeonly
Super Featherweight
Posts: 11584
Joined: 16 Oct 2018, 06:28

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Post by Onetimeonly »

KiwiRider wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 14:20
Onetimeonly wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 14:13

Lol, it's actually just $65! I hear you, but I bought it, nothing else on. I suppose the only justification is the first fight was much better than wilder/fury. Lol. :maybe:
$31 USD in my country live in HD.
And I'm still not sure I will get it
Good for you, trust me I know I'm a sucker. Hold strong. :TU:
oogiebe
Super Middleweight
Posts: 32990
Joined: 01 Jul 2012, 19:35

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Post by oogiebe »

Enlightened-One wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 04:52
oogiebe wrote: 20 Nov 2019, 17:22

His median weight throughout his career is around 223. Not sure why any of this means anything really. He was coming off the flu for the first Ortiz fight and he was too light for the Fury fight. Those two were the anomolies. Last 7 fights: 223.5/212.5/214.75/220.75/222/226.25/228.75. Vs Ortiz II...???
I’ve been proven right, once again. Wilder ALWAYS weighs less than 220lbs against threatening decent opposition!
1/2 pound. yes, you are still Charlie Z of the forum.
Jeff_lacy_ko
Super Featherweight
Posts: 5710
Joined: 06 Sep 2018, 14:15

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Post by Jeff_lacy_ko »

Nah skip Bayless of the forum
KiwiRider
Super Lightweight
Posts: 26484
Joined: 11 Feb 2017, 22:25

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Post by KiwiRider »

Slavinskyi is quite nice to watch. I've not seen him before.
KiwiRider
Super Lightweight
Posts: 26484
Joined: 11 Feb 2017, 22:25

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Post by KiwiRider »

:yay: the guy throws one punch on Wilder Jr, and he folds like a deckchair. It wasn't even a full shot.
Well, we know or sure who got the chin in that family :lol:
margaret thatcher
Featherweight
Posts: 39204
Joined: 22 Jul 2019, 15:43

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Post by margaret thatcher »

Wilder's brother ain't even a boxer really, just put some gloves on to cash in on his brother's name.
KiwiRider
Super Lightweight
Posts: 26484
Joined: 11 Feb 2017, 22:25

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Post by KiwiRider »

Hello! :wave:
Am I the only tight arse watching the free prelims?
They are actually quite entertaining thus far.
Heck, I might even cough up for the main fight card :o
margaret thatcher
Featherweight
Posts: 39204
Joined: 22 Jul 2019, 15:43

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Post by margaret thatcher »

KiwiRider wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 21:06 Hello! :wave:
Am I the only tight arse watching the free prelims?
They are actually quite entertaining thus far.
Heck, I might even cough up for the main fight card :o
U will
oogiebe
Super Middleweight
Posts: 32990
Joined: 01 Jul 2012, 19:35

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Post by oogiebe »

margaret thatcher wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 21:04 Wilder's brother ain't even a boxer really, just put some gloves on to cash in on his brother's name.
Well, that's over now. :lol:
KiwiRider
Super Lightweight
Posts: 26484
Joined: 11 Feb 2017, 22:25

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Post by KiwiRider »

oogiebe wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 21:07
margaret thatcher wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 21:04 Wilder's brother ain't even a boxer really, just put some gloves on to cash in on his brother's name.
Well, that's over now. :lol:
Yeah. They can't match him lower than that. The guy barely threw a punch until he did, then knocked Wilder out proper style. Talk about glass chin!
KiwiRider
Super Lightweight
Posts: 26484
Joined: 11 Feb 2017, 22:25

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Post by KiwiRider »

margaret thatcher wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 21:06
KiwiRider wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 21:06 Hello! :wave:
Am I the only tight arse watching the free prelims?
They are actually quite entertaining thus far.
Heck, I might even cough up for the main fight card :o
U will
Mebbie :oops:
KiwiRider
Super Lightweight
Posts: 26484
Joined: 11 Feb 2017, 22:25

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019

Post by KiwiRider »

Juarez can bang!
Ouch!
:bag:
Post Reply