Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Who wins the rematch?

Poll ended at 07 Dec 2019, 13:05

Ruiz - Decision
4
3%
Ruiz - T/KO
66
53%
DRAW
2
2%
Joshua - T/KO
36
29%
Joshua - Decision
17
14%
 
Total votes: 125

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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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Think far boys getting done.

Seems likely he's not had a serious camp.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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Guys, probably me being dumb but back in the UK this weekend and thought ringwalk time was 10pm, but given Hunter and Povetkin are already on it’s surely going to be earlier than that?
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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Deserter wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 15:46 Guys, probably me being dumb but back in the UK this weekend and thought ringwalk time was 10pm, but given Hunter and Povetkin are already on it’s surely going to be earlier than that?
8:45pm ring walks mate
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 15:47
Deserter wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 15:46 Guys, probably me being dumb but back in the UK this weekend and thought ringwalk time was 10pm, but given Hunter and Povetkin are already on it’s surely going to be earlier than that?
8:45pm ring walks mate
Thanks so much mate! Better find a boozer sharpish then! Any recommendations in central London? Currently near Soho and hotel is in King’s Cross...
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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Deserter wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 15:53
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 15:47

8:45pm ring walks mate
Thanks so much mate! Better find a boozer sharpish then! Any recommendations in central London? Currently near Soho and hotel is in King’s Cross...
All the way up in Manchester myself mate.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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I still can't believe how many people thought Ruiz had a chance
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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That was before he came in at 283.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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Seamus wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:27 That was before he came in at 283.
My sentiments exactly. :TU:
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:28
Seamus wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:27 That was before he came in at 283.
My sentiments exactly. :TU:
He could've come in at 268 or 270 and the fight would've been the same. AJ fighting smarter is what won. Ruiz being not as prepared as he should've certainly helped, but AJ fighting smarter deserves the credit. He could've won the first fight this way too. Remember how reckless he got 1st time around when he landed one of those head snapping shots on Ruiz, and thought he could finish him?

Not this time.

That was the difference.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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And in spite of winning a one sided decision, AJ still showed the Blob alot of respect.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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gilgamesh wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:31
oogiebe wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:28

My sentiments exactly. :TU:
He could've come in at 268 or 270 and the fight would've been the same. AJ fighting smarter is what won. Ruiz being not as prepared as he should've certainly helped, but AJ fighting smarter deserves the credit. He could've won the first fight this way too. Remember how reckless he got 1st time around when he landed one of those head snapping shots on Ruiz, and thought he could finish him?

Not this time.


That was the difference.
I think last time out Wilders blasting out of Breazeale was playing on his mind and he had to look good and take Ruiz out in style. Plus if you had seen the DAZN interview after he actually admitted something had gone off in the lead up to the fight .
Read into that what you will .
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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gilgamesh wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:31
oogiebe wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:28

My sentiments exactly. :TU:
He could've come in at 268 or 270 and the fight would've been the same. AJ fighting smarter is what won. Ruiz being not as prepared as he should've certainly helped, but AJ fighting smarter deserves the credit. He could've won the first fight this way too. Remember how reckless he got 1st time around when he landed one of those head snapping shots on Ruiz, and thought he could finish him?

Not this time.

That was the difference.
It was part of the difference. A lighter Ruiz MAY have been able to get to and hurt AJ which is all that MIGHT have been needed to turn off AJ's jets. Terrific comeback by Joshua nonetheless.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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I think some people are forgetting how mentally taxing this style AJ used was tonight.

In order to really get this style programmed his next two bouts in 2020 (Pulev/Usyk) he needs to implement it.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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kbackup408 wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:55 I think some people are forgetting how mentally taxing this style AJ used was tonight.

In order to really get this style programmed his next two bouts in 2020 (Pulev/Usyk) he needs to implement it.
He doesn't need it vs Pulev and it wouldn't work vs Usyk. This is not his style moving forward. It was a gameplan for this fight.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:59
kbackup408 wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:55 I think some people are forgetting how mentally taxing this style AJ used was tonight.

In order to really get this style programmed his next two bouts in 2020 (Pulev/Usyk) he needs to implement it.
He doesn't need it vs Pulev and it wouldn't work vs Usyk. This is not his style moving forward. It was a gameplan for this fight.
I hope that is the case mate but I just have a feeling after what happened at MSG his willingness to engage especially on the inside will diminish!
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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kbackup408 wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 19:00
oogiebe wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:59
He doesn't need it vs Pulev and it wouldn't work vs Usyk. This is not his style moving forward. It was a gameplan for this fight.
I hope that is the case mate but I just have a feeling after what happened at MSG his willingness to engage especially on the inside will diminish!
I couldn't bear to watch that over and over again. That might cost him a fight if he does that. And cause me to sleep.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 19:01
kbackup408 wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 19:00

I hope that is the case mate but I just have a feeling after what happened at MSG his willingness to engage especially on the inside will diminish!
I couldn't bear to watch that over and over again. That might cost him a fight if he does that. And cause me to sleep.
:lol:

but in all honesty mate, I am glad he won tonight was worried the Wilder/Fury rematch would be scrapped if Ruiz won!
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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kbackup408 wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 19:04
oogiebe wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 19:01
I couldn't bear to watch that over and over again. That might cost him a fight if he does that. And cause me to sleep.
:lol:

but in all honesty mate, I am glad he won tonight was worried the Wilder/Fury rematch would be scrapped if Ruiz won!
LOL! I still don't think Fury steps in the ring with Wilder ever again. But having AJ back in the mix is best for the HW division.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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After tonight for me there's 3 clear top dogs at heavyweight and that is Fury, Wilder and Joshua (in no particular order)

And then after that there's the likes of Whyte, Ortiz, Pulev and Povetkin and co.

However those 3 are in a league of their own compared to the rest imo.
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Nondescript wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 19:06 After tonight for me there's 3 clear top dogs at heavyweight and that is Fury, Wilder and Joshua (in no particular order)

And then after that there's the likes of Whyte, Ortiz, Pulev and Povetkin and co.

However those 3 are in a league of their own compared to the rest imo.
I think AJ is below the other two.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:59
kbackup408 wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:55 I think some people are forgetting how mentally taxing this style AJ used was tonight.

In order to really get this style programmed his next two bouts in 2020 (Pulev/Usyk) he needs to implement it.
He doesn't need it vs Pulev and it wouldn't work vs Usyk. This is not his style moving forward. It was a gameplan for this fight.
Exactly, he’s not going to turn into Wlad overnight just because Wlad-like tactics were right for this fight. Nobody else really presents the same type of stylistic problem that Ruiz does.
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Nondescript wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 19:06 After tonight for me there's 3 clear top dogs at heavyweight and that is Fury, Wilder and Joshua (in no particular order)

And then after that there's the likes of Whyte, Ortiz, Pulev and Povetkin and co.

However those 3 are in a league of their own compared to the rest imo.
You’re not even putting Usyk in there? :o
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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Riddick Blowe wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 19:09
oogiebe wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 18:59
He doesn't need it vs Pulev and it wouldn't work vs Usyk. This is not his style moving forward. It was a gameplan for this fight.
Exactly, he’s not going to turn into Wlad overnight just because Wlad-like tactics were right for this fight. Nobody else really presents the same type of stylistic problem that Ruiz does.
Just makes you think what style AJ would use against Fury.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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Deserter wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 19:11
Nondescript wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 19:06 After tonight for me there's 3 clear top dogs at heavyweight and that is Fury, Wilder and Joshua (in no particular order)

And then after that there's the likes of Whyte, Ortiz, Pulev and Povetkin and co.

However those 3 are in a league of their own compared to the rest imo.
You’re not even putting Usyk in there? :o
Usyk is game but I think he gets hit very easily probably unfair to not have him in that second tier!
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