Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
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jamesmcdonnell
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Think far boys getting done.
Seems likely he's not had a serious camp.
Seems likely he's not had a serious camp.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Guys, probably me being dumb but back in the UK this weekend and thought ringwalk time was 10pm, but given Hunter and Povetkin are already on it’s surely going to be earlier than that?
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Thanks so much mate! Better find a boozer sharpish then! Any recommendations in central London? Currently near Soho and hotel is in King’s Cross...
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
I still can't believe how many people thought Ruiz had a chance
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
That was before he came in at 283.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
He could've come in at 268 or 270 and the fight would've been the same. AJ fighting smarter is what won. Ruiz being not as prepared as he should've certainly helped, but AJ fighting smarter deserves the credit. He could've won the first fight this way too. Remember how reckless he got 1st time around when he landed one of those head snapping shots on Ruiz, and thought he could finish him?
Not this time.
That was the difference.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
And in spite of winning a one sided decision, AJ still showed the Blob alot of respect.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
I think last time out Wilders blasting out of Breazeale was playing on his mind and he had to look good and take Ruiz out in style. Plus if you had seen the DAZN interview after he actually admitted something had gone off in the lead up to the fight .gilgamesh wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 18:31He could've come in at 268 or 270 and the fight would've been the same. AJ fighting smarter is what won. Ruiz being not as prepared as he should've certainly helped, but AJ fighting smarter deserves the credit. He could've won the first fight this way too. Remember how reckless he got 1st time around when he landed one of those head snapping shots on Ruiz, and thought he could finish him?
Not this time.
That was the difference.
Read into that what you will .
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
It was part of the difference. A lighter Ruiz MAY have been able to get to and hurt AJ which is all that MIGHT have been needed to turn off AJ's jets. Terrific comeback by Joshua nonetheless.gilgamesh wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 18:31He could've come in at 268 or 270 and the fight would've been the same. AJ fighting smarter is what won. Ruiz being not as prepared as he should've certainly helped, but AJ fighting smarter deserves the credit. He could've won the first fight this way too. Remember how reckless he got 1st time around when he landed one of those head snapping shots on Ruiz, and thought he could finish him?
Not this time.
That was the difference.
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kbackup408
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
I think some people are forgetting how mentally taxing this style AJ used was tonight.
In order to really get this style programmed his next two bouts in 2020 (Pulev/Usyk) he needs to implement it.
In order to really get this style programmed his next two bouts in 2020 (Pulev/Usyk) he needs to implement it.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
He doesn't need it vs Pulev and it wouldn't work vs Usyk. This is not his style moving forward. It was a gameplan for this fight.kbackup408 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 18:55 I think some people are forgetting how mentally taxing this style AJ used was tonight.
In order to really get this style programmed his next two bouts in 2020 (Pulev/Usyk) he needs to implement it.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
I hope that is the case mate but I just have a feeling after what happened at MSG his willingness to engage especially on the inside will diminish!oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 18:59He doesn't need it vs Pulev and it wouldn't work vs Usyk. This is not his style moving forward. It was a gameplan for this fight.kbackup408 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 18:55 I think some people are forgetting how mentally taxing this style AJ used was tonight.
In order to really get this style programmed his next two bouts in 2020 (Pulev/Usyk) he needs to implement it.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
I couldn't bear to watch that over and over again. That might cost him a fight if he does that. And cause me to sleep.kbackup408 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 19:00I hope that is the case mate but I just have a feeling after what happened at MSG his willingness to engage especially on the inside will diminish!
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 19:01I couldn't bear to watch that over and over again. That might cost him a fight if he does that. And cause me to sleep.kbackup408 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 19:00
I hope that is the case mate but I just have a feeling after what happened at MSG his willingness to engage especially on the inside will diminish!
but in all honesty mate, I am glad he won tonight was worried the Wilder/Fury rematch would be scrapped if Ruiz won!
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
LOL! I still don't think Fury steps in the ring with Wilder ever again. But having AJ back in the mix is best for the HW division.kbackup408 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 19:04![]()
but in all honesty mate, I am glad he won tonight was worried the Wilder/Fury rematch would be scrapped if Ruiz won!
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
After tonight for me there's 3 clear top dogs at heavyweight and that is Fury, Wilder and Joshua (in no particular order)
And then after that there's the likes of Whyte, Ortiz, Pulev and Povetkin and co.
However those 3 are in a league of their own compared to the rest imo.
And then after that there's the likes of Whyte, Ortiz, Pulev and Povetkin and co.
However those 3 are in a league of their own compared to the rest imo.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
I think AJ is below the other two.Nondescript wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 19:06 After tonight for me there's 3 clear top dogs at heavyweight and that is Fury, Wilder and Joshua (in no particular order)
And then after that there's the likes of Whyte, Ortiz, Pulev and Povetkin and co.
However those 3 are in a league of their own compared to the rest imo.
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Bard of Boxrec
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Exactly, he’s not going to turn into Wlad overnight just because Wlad-like tactics were right for this fight. Nobody else really presents the same type of stylistic problem that Ruiz does.oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 18:59He doesn't need it vs Pulev and it wouldn't work vs Usyk. This is not his style moving forward. It was a gameplan for this fight.kbackup408 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 18:55 I think some people are forgetting how mentally taxing this style AJ used was tonight.
In order to really get this style programmed his next two bouts in 2020 (Pulev/Usyk) he needs to implement it.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
You’re not even putting Usyk in there?Nondescript wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 19:06 After tonight for me there's 3 clear top dogs at heavyweight and that is Fury, Wilder and Joshua (in no particular order)
And then after that there's the likes of Whyte, Ortiz, Pulev and Povetkin and co.
However those 3 are in a league of their own compared to the rest imo.
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kbackup408
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Just makes you think what style AJ would use against Fury.Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 19:09Exactly, he’s not going to turn into Wlad overnight just because Wlad-like tactics were right for this fight. Nobody else really presents the same type of stylistic problem that Ruiz does.
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kbackup408
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019
Usyk is game but I think he gets hit very easily probably unfair to not have him in that second tier!Deserter wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 19:11You’re not even putting Usyk in there?Nondescript wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 19:06 After tonight for me there's 3 clear top dogs at heavyweight and that is Fury, Wilder and Joshua (in no particular order)
And then after that there's the likes of Whyte, Ortiz, Pulev and Povetkin and co.
However those 3 are in a league of their own compared to the rest imo.![]()