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Impractical Poster wrote: 28 Nov 2019, 21:51 McGregor/Cowboy is official for UFC 246 on January 18th.

I'm expecting Conor to win but would love to see Cowboy starch his ass.
I’d like to see most anyone starch Connor but I don’t see it in this one. Cowboys made for him especially at this stage of his career.
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2nd Twister submission in UFC history executed tonight by Bryce Mitchell.

Looks very painful.
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Tito enhances his legacy winning the wwe title.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 08 Dec 2019, 01:07 Tito enhances his legacy winning the wwe title.
He needs CM Punk next :lol:
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That overeem fight at the weekend was just as bad as chavez vs taylor 1,overeem gets floored with about 7 seconds Rozenstruik turns with his hands in the air overeem gets up wobbly and the ref jumps in and calls the fight off? There would of been about 3 seconds left after that and Rozenstruik was celebrating even tho it wasnt 100% over. Bad
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thechump wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 19:37 That overeem fight at the weekend was just as bad as chavez vs taylor 1,overeem gets floored with about 7 seconds Rozenstruik turns with his hands in the air overeem gets up wobbly and the ref jumps in and calls the fight off? There would of been about 3 seconds left after that and Rozenstruik was celebrating even tho it wasnt 100% over. Bad
Weird wasn’t it! Overoid was well winning as well. Could easily have seen out the round
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Wee Tommy wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 19:55
thechump wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 19:37 That overeem fight at the weekend was just as bad as chavez vs taylor 1,overeem gets floored with about 7 seconds Rozenstruik turns with his hands in the air overeem gets up wobbly and the ref jumps in and calls the fight off? There would of been about 3 seconds left after that and Rozenstruik was celebrating even tho it wasnt 100% over. Bad
Weird wasn’t it! Overoid was well winning as well. Could easily have seen out the round
He collapsed into the cage. Rosenstruik could have hit him once more at that point the ref would've called it; he took chance just walking away in celebration.

Fvcking gruesome injury.
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Ricky wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 21:56
Wee Tommy wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 19:55

Weird wasn’t it! Overoid was well winning as well. Could easily have seen out the round
He collapsed into the cage. Rosenstruik could have hit him once more at that point the ref would've called it; he took chance just walking away in celebration.

Fvcking gruesome injury.
Sore one. Had one like that on the front of my lip when my false teeth got kicked out through it. Lips heal quick.
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Ricky wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 21:56
Wee Tommy wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 19:55

Weird wasn’t it! Overoid was well winning as well. Could easily have seen out the round
He collapsed into the cage. Rosenstruik could have hit him once more at that point the ref would've called it; he took chance just walking away in celebration.

Fvcking gruesome injury.
Seconds left and he walks away with his hands in the air the ref see's him walking away with his hands in the air and calls the fight off even though overeem gets to his feet and stumbles for a second or two but then head looks clear,shades of meldrick taylor.
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thechump wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 07:48
Ricky wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 21:56

He collapsed into the cage. Rosenstruik could have hit him once more at that point the ref would've called it; he took chance just walking away in celebration.

Fvcking gruesome injury.
Seconds left and he walks away with his hands in the air the ref see's him walking away with his hands in the air and calls the fight off even though overeem gets to his feet and stumbles for a second or two but then head looks clear,shades of meldrick taylor.
So the ref should consider the clock? it shouldn't factor in, he just got laid out and suffered an injury that he couldn't continue with.
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thechump wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 07:48
Ricky wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 21:56

He collapsed into the cage. Rosenstruik could have hit him once more at that point the ref would've called it; he took chance just walking away in celebration.

Fvcking gruesome injury.
Seconds left and he walks away with his hands in the air the ref see's him walking away with his hands in the air and calls the fight off even though overeem gets to his feet and stumbles for a second or two but then head looks clear,shades of meldrick taylor.
Dodgy stoppage. Ref was under pressure there.. Jairzinho was crap.
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Ricky wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 08:15
thechump wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 07:48

Seconds left and he walks away with his hands in the air the ref see's him walking away with his hands in the air and calls the fight off even though overeem gets to his feet and stumbles for a second or two but then head looks clear,shades of meldrick taylor.
So the ref should consider the clock? it shouldn't factor in, he just got laid out and suffered an injury that he couldn't continue with.
The ref should know the time left in a round yes? So he should know that there was only seconds left,assess the situation,if he was in no danger of further punishment let it go,he was wobbled but not flat out. Bad refereeing imho.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 08:18
thechump wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 07:48

Seconds left and he walks away with his hands in the air the ref see's him walking away with his hands in the air and calls the fight off even though overeem gets to his feet and stumbles for a second or two but then head looks clear,shades of meldrick taylor.
Dodgy stoppage. Ref was under pressure there.. Jairzinho was crap.
Very dodgy stoppage,he got mullered all fight then landed a beautiful shot with seconds left,referees should know their surroundings know who is in danger and know when there are literally seconds left in a round.
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thechump wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 16:22
Ricky wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 08:15

So the ref should consider the clock? it shouldn't factor in, he just got laid out and suffered an injury that he couldn't continue with.
The ref should know the time left in a round yes? So he should know that there was only seconds left,assess the situation,if he was in no danger of further punishment let it go,he was wobbled but not flat out. Bad refereeing imho.
How should the ref know how much time is left when he is supposed to have eyes on the fighters at all times?
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Impractical Poster wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 23:48
thechump wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 16:22
The ref should know the time left in a round yes? So he should know that there was only seconds left,assess the situation,if he was in no danger of further punishment let it go,he was wobbled but not flat out. Bad refereeing imho.
How should the ref know how much time is left when he is supposed to have eyes on the fighters at all times?
Same reason most fighters do, they have this clock in their head,havent you ever been sparring and after about 3 mins think to yourself "thats gotta be the end of the round now" and the bell goes?
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thechump wrote: 11 Dec 2019, 07:48
Impractical Poster wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 23:48
How should the ref know how much time is left when he is supposed to have eyes on the fighters at all times?
Same reason most fighters do, they have this clock in their head,havent you ever been sparring and after about 3 mins think to yourself "thats gotta be the end of the round now" and the bell goes?
Bollocks. Sparring million times different from a main event. I’ve had rounds seem like they last forever and some go rapid cos it’s been easy.
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thechump wrote: 11 Dec 2019, 07:48
Impractical Poster wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 23:48
How should the ref know how much time is left when he is supposed to have eyes on the fighters at all times?
Same reason most fighters do, they have this clock in their head,havent you ever been sparring and after about 3 mins think to yourself "thats gotta be the end of the round now" and the bell goes?
It's different for a fighter. If a ref misses an important call because he's looking at the clock you can bet your ass the commission is letting them go.
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Wee Tommy wrote: 11 Dec 2019, 12:27
thechump wrote: 11 Dec 2019, 07:48
Same reason most fighters do, they have this clock in their head,havent you ever been sparring and after about 3 mins think to yourself "thats gotta be the end of the round now" and the bell goes?
Bollocks. Sparring million times different from a main event. I’ve had rounds seem like they last forever and some go rapid cos it’s been easy.
Its not bollox at all,a ref should know more than a fighter cause they onky have to ref a fight. And yes sparring is a million times different to a main even for someone like me who has never main evented anythin but overeem has main evented loads of times.
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Impractical Poster wrote: 11 Dec 2019, 12:50
thechump wrote: 11 Dec 2019, 07:48
Same reason most fighters do, they have this clock in their head,havent you ever been sparring and after about 3 mins think to yourself "thats gotta be the end of the round now" and the bell goes?
It's different for a fighter. If a ref misses an important call because he's looking at the clock you can bet your ass the commission is letting them go.
Hmmm really? Joe cortez in mayweather vs ortiz? Didnt him get let go.
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thechump wrote: 11 Dec 2019, 13:13
Impractical Poster wrote: 11 Dec 2019, 12:50

It's different for a fighter. If a ref misses an important call because he's looking at the clock you can bet your ass the commission is letting them go.
Hmmm really? Joe cortez in mayweather vs ortiz? Didnt him get let go.
Cortez was looking at the clock and didn't see the headbutt? I don't remember how all that played out.

I could be wrong, but when these officials are in training I would assume they are taught to keep an eye on the fighters at all times. MMA is different than boxing anyhow. There is no stopping the action for a standing eight count or a 10 count during a knockdown which gives officials a chance to look at the time like in boxing. In MMA, especially when assessing the damage a fighter just took as in Overeem's situation do you take your eyes off the fighter. It would be total negligence.
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Impractical Poster wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 23:48
thechump wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 16:22
The ref should know the time left in a round yes? So he should know that there was only seconds left,assess the situation,if he was in no danger of further punishment let it go,he was wobbled but not flat out. Bad refereeing imho.
How should the ref know how much time is left when he is supposed to have eyes on the fighters at all times?
Isn't there a klaxon at 10 seconds??
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 12 Dec 2019, 11:06
Impractical Poster wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 23:48
How should the ref know how much time is left when he is supposed to have eyes on the fighters at all times?
Isn't there a klaxon at 10 seconds??
There is. Which is a good point in this case. Not sure the ref heard it. Sometimes it's drowned out by the crowd. In any case this is still MMA where there are no breaks for a fighter getting clobbered and floored. If they feel a fighter needs a standing 8 in mma the fight is stopped.
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Nice UFC card tonight.

-Three championship fights
-Jose Aldo debuting at 135 against Moraes
-Return of The California Kid
-Covington/Usman is about the most even championship fight on paper ever
-Covington said he would slap Dana White if he tries to put the belt on him

Kamaru Usman (c) -165 vs. Colby Covington +135
Max Holloway (c) -200 vs. Alexander Volkanovski +160
Amanda Nunes (c) -340 vs. Germaine de Randamie +270
Marlon Moraes -200 vs. Jose Aldo +160
Petr Yan -500 vs. Urijah Faber +360
Geoff Neal -240 vs. Mike Perry +190
Matt Brown -350 vs. Ben Saunders +280
Ian Heinisch -140 vs. Omari Akhmedov +110
Ketlen Vieria -185 vs. Irene Aldana +155
Viviane Araujo -220 vs. Jessica Eye +170
Chase Hooper -130 vs. Daniel Teymur +100
Kai Kara France -160 vs. Brandon Moreno +130
Punahele Soriano -120 vs. Oskar Piechota -110

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Yeah stacked card. Really looking forward to this. Surprised the odds are so wide on Usman/Colby
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Tinnie wrote: 14 Dec 2019, 18:29 Yeah stacked card. Really looking forward to this. Surprised the odds are so wide on Usman/Colby
I think Alex gets it done tonight. That guy is a fireball.
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