Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑17 Dec 2019, 08:57
Lots of decorated amateurs flop in the pros,
He didn't.
so that doesn't mean much.
Except it does if he didn't.
He was a bit of a mystery going into the Williams fight
World amateur super heavyweight champion and an undefeated EBU heavyweight champion - mystery to you maybe

I knew him and saw him fight loads of times on Eurosport. He also beat Audley Harrison as an amateur - if you read Boxing News to any degree in the 1990's - you knew who Sinan Samil Sam was.
and his physique was atrocious.
You really sound like you have been following heavyweight boxing for five seconds - so what if it was - Tim Witherspoon had an atrocious physique but was successful, so did Tony Tubbs, so did Buster Mathis - his physique has nothing to do with anything....
He hadn't exactly looked murderous versus the chinny Saleta,
You take A fight and put a whole career into context, it's like saying Mike Tyson wasn't destructive in the late 80's because James Tillis went the distance with him when Frank Bruno stopped him in five rounds 18 months later - it is absolutely ridiculous rationale.
not that many people over here had seen that fight. I'm not sure even Eurosport broadcast it, I think I had to order it on tape. But everything that you write about him became apparent during and after the Williams fight, so I kick myself for not following you these last 15 years, I could have cleaned up gambling on your picks.
I know more about it than you, yeah. I tell you who would vouch for me on this, James McDonnell - he was around on another forum when I picked Sam vs Williams - he may or may not remember anything from 20 years ago.
And if you read the above, I also picked Kali Meehan to beat Williams - I got that wrong and admit it, so get back in your box you auld woman.
