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Are the rankings updated automatically after each boxers last fight? Im just asking this as a current pro as asked me when are the rankings updated?

Mark Bennett has beaten Soko and Sandford but still remains below them at 16th.
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The ratings have been updated for those fights, but Bennett losing to Webb brought him back below Sandland and Soko, which is obviously flawed, especially considering he'd just won a UD over Sandland (who had won a UD over Soko the fight before)

So basically, advancing to the final hurt Bennett, which is pretty messed up! I like the ratings but this is a case of them being flawed.
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margaret thatcher wrote: 15 Dec 2019, 08:53 The ratings have been updated for those fights, but Bennett losing to Webb brought him back below Sandland and Soko, which is obviously flawed, especially considering he'd just won a UD over Sandland (who had won a UD over Soko the fight before)

So basically, advancing to the final hurt Bennett, which is pretty messed up! I like the ratings but this is a case of them being flawed.
I am not sure about the bout order on that event. There is no information like final or semi final.
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Quarterfinals

Jay McFarlane vs Mark Bennett (first fight of tournament)
Josh Sandland vs Kamil Sokolowski
Nick Webb vs Chris Healy
Jonathan Palata vs Danny Whittaker

Semi

Bennett vs Sandland
Webb vs Whittaker

Final

Bennett vs Webb
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margaret thatcher wrote: 15 Dec 2019, 09:24 Quarterfinals

Jay McFarlane vs Mark Bennett (first fight of tournament)
Josh Sandland vs Kamil Sokolowski
Nick Webb vs Chris Healy
Jonathan Palata vs Danny Whittaker

Semi

Bennett vs Sandland
Webb vs Whittaker

Final

Bennett vs Webb
So the bout order should be corrected in Boxrec and the ratings will change. Currently there is Bennett vs Sandland before Sandland vs Sokolowksi.
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So will this change then when whoever changes the bout order? Also any indication of what the ranking would be when changed?
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MasterG wrote: 15 Dec 2019, 10:03 So will this change then when whoever changes the bout order? Also any indication of what the ranking would be when changed?
Like this:

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      1    1 Heavyweight          659461 Anthony Joshua                 UK  913.6  913.6
      2    2 Heavyweight          479205 Tyson Fury                     UK  549.5  549.5
      3    3 Heavyweight          569964 Dillian Whyte                  UK  393.2  393.2
      4    4 Heavyweight          381739 Dereck Chisora                 UK  268.2  268.2
      5    5 Heavyweight          811429 Joe Joyce                      UK  124.9  124.9
      6    6 Heavyweight          643611 Hughie Fury                    UK  114.9  114.9
      7    7 Heavyweight          483755 David Price                    UK  90.14  90.14
      8    8 Heavyweight          787430 Daniel Dubois                  UK  88.03  88.03
      9    9 Heavyweight          630710 David Allen                    UK  63.43  63.43
     10   10 Heavyweight          739980 Nathan Gorman                  UK  27.65  27.65
     13   11 Heavyweight          714625 Nick Webb                      UK  7.103  11.12
     12   12 Heavyweight          698269 Kamil Sokolowski               UK  9.693  10.19
     11   13 Heavyweight          782449 Josh Sandland                  UK  11.37  7.897
     16   14 Heavyweight          813796 Mark Bennett                   UK  4.629  7.644
     14   15 Heavyweight          785893 Fabio Wardley                  UK  6.467  6.467
     15   16 Heavyweight          801419 Alex Dickinson                 UK  5.375  5.375
     17   17 Heavyweight          584978 Kash Ali                       UK  3.991  3.991
     18   18 Heavyweight          640357 Simon Vallily                  UK  3.546  3.546
     19   19 Heavyweight          576438 Tom Little                     UK  3.366  3.366
     20   20 Heavyweight          779576 Jay McFarlane                  UK  2.913  2.831
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computerrank wrote: 15 Dec 2019, 12:26
MasterG wrote: 15 Dec 2019, 10:03 So will this change then when whoever changes the bout order? Also any indication of what the ranking would be when changed?
Like this:

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      1    1 Heavyweight          659461 Anthony Joshua                 UK  913.6  913.6
      2    2 Heavyweight          479205 Tyson Fury                     UK  549.5  549.5
      3    3 Heavyweight          569964 Dillian Whyte                  UK  393.2  393.2
      4    4 Heavyweight          381739 Dereck Chisora                 UK  268.2  268.2
      5    5 Heavyweight          811429 Joe Joyce                      UK  124.9  124.9
      6    6 Heavyweight          643611 Hughie Fury                    UK  114.9  114.9
      7    7 Heavyweight          483755 David Price                    UK  90.14  90.14
      8    8 Heavyweight          787430 Daniel Dubois                  UK  88.03  88.03
      9    9 Heavyweight          630710 David Allen                    UK  63.43  63.43
     10   10 Heavyweight          739980 Nathan Gorman                  UK  27.65  27.65
     13   11 Heavyweight          714625 Nick Webb                      UK  7.103  11.12
     12   12 Heavyweight          698269 Kamil Sokolowski               UK  9.693  10.19
     11   13 Heavyweight          782449 Josh Sandland                  UK  11.37  7.897
     16   14 Heavyweight          813796 Mark Bennett                   UK  4.629  7.644
     14   15 Heavyweight          785893 Fabio Wardley                  UK  6.467  6.467
     15   16 Heavyweight          801419 Alex Dickinson                 UK  5.375  5.375
     17   17 Heavyweight          584978 Kash Ali                       UK  3.991  3.991
     18   18 Heavyweight          640357 Simon Vallily                  UK  3.546  3.546
     19   19 Heavyweight          576438 Tom Little                     UK  3.366  3.366
     20   20 Heavyweight          779576 Jay McFarlane                  UK  2.913  2.831
So how does Sanderland stay above Bennett even though he was beaten?
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MasterG wrote: 15 Dec 2019, 13:12
computerrank wrote: 15 Dec 2019, 12:26
Like this:

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      1    1 Heavyweight          659461 Anthony Joshua                 UK  913.6  913.6
      2    2 Heavyweight          479205 Tyson Fury                     UK  549.5  549.5
      3    3 Heavyweight          569964 Dillian Whyte                  UK  393.2  393.2
      4    4 Heavyweight          381739 Dereck Chisora                 UK  268.2  268.2
      5    5 Heavyweight          811429 Joe Joyce                      UK  124.9  124.9
      6    6 Heavyweight          643611 Hughie Fury                    UK  114.9  114.9
      7    7 Heavyweight          483755 David Price                    UK  90.14  90.14
      8    8 Heavyweight          787430 Daniel Dubois                  UK  88.03  88.03
      9    9 Heavyweight          630710 David Allen                    UK  63.43  63.43
     10   10 Heavyweight          739980 Nathan Gorman                  UK  27.65  27.65
     13   11 Heavyweight          714625 Nick Webb                      UK  7.103  11.12
     12   12 Heavyweight          698269 Kamil Sokolowski               UK  9.693  10.19
     11   13 Heavyweight          782449 Josh Sandland                  UK  11.37  7.897
     16   14 Heavyweight          813796 Mark Bennett                   UK  4.629  7.644
     14   15 Heavyweight          785893 Fabio Wardley                  UK  6.467  6.467
     15   16 Heavyweight          801419 Alex Dickinson                 UK  5.375  5.375
     17   17 Heavyweight          584978 Kash Ali                       UK  3.991  3.991
     18   18 Heavyweight          640357 Simon Vallily                  UK  3.546  3.546
     19   19 Heavyweight          576438 Tom Little                     UK  3.366  3.366
     20   20 Heavyweight          779576 Jay McFarlane                  UK  2.913  2.831
So how does Sanderland stay above Bennett even though he was beaten?
Bennett 4.244 -> 11.48 vs Sandland 11.89 -> 7.897
Bennett 11.48 -> 7.644 vs Webb 4.131 -> 11.12
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computerrank wrote: 15 Dec 2019, 15:13
MasterG wrote: 15 Dec 2019, 13:12

So how does Sanderland stay above Bennett even though he was beaten?
Bennett 4.244 -> 11.48 vs Sandland 11.89 -> 7.897
Bennett 11.48 -> 7.644 vs Webb 4.131 -> 11.12
Bout order is corrected now and the ratings are correct too.
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computerrank wrote: 21 Dec 2019, 09:56
computerrank wrote: 15 Dec 2019, 15:13
Bennett 4.244 -> 11.48 vs Sandland 11.89 -> 7.897
Bennett 11.48 -> 7.644 vs Webb 4.131 -> 11.12
Bout order is corrected now and the ratings are correct too.
still the same order on their records mate, and Bennett still at 14.
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MasterG wrote: 28 Dec 2019, 12:11
computerrank wrote: 21 Dec 2019, 09:56
Bout order is corrected now and the ratings are correct too.
still the same order on their records mate, and Bennett still at 14.
It is NOT the same order. The bouts are rated in correct bout order of that day now. Bennett went from #15 to #14, but he still is behind. This is correct now, regarding the Boxrec rating rules.
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computerrank wrote: 28 Dec 2019, 16:09
MasterG wrote: 28 Dec 2019, 12:11

still the same order on their records mate, and Bennett still at 14.
It is NOT the same order. The bouts are rated in correct bout order of that day now. Bennett went from #15 to #14, but he still is behind. This is correct now, regarding the Boxrec rating rules.
I'm not sure what you mean, however what I am saying is that the record of Bennett and Co are not in the order that the fights took place as per their records. As in Bennett's case you have him fighting Nick Webb first which isnt right. Nick Webb should be the last person Bennett fought in his boxing career record. Thats all im saying.
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MasterG wrote: 28 Dec 2019, 16:52
computerrank wrote: 28 Dec 2019, 16:09
It is NOT the same order. The bouts are rated in correct bout order of that day now. Bennett went from #15 to #14, but he still is behind. This is correct now, regarding the Boxrec rating rules.
I'm not sure what you mean, however what I am saying is that the record of Bennett and Co are not in the order that the fights took place as per their records. As in Bennett's case you have him fighting Nick Webb first which isnt right. Nick Webb should be the last person Bennett fought in his boxing career record. Thats all im saying.
You are right, the order in the record should be changed. My point was, the ratings are calculated in the correct order. So the rating points are correct already.
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computerrank wrote: 29 Dec 2019, 05:29
MasterG wrote: 28 Dec 2019, 16:52

I'm not sure what you mean, however what I am saying is that the record of Bennett and Co are not in the order that the fights took place as per their records. As in Bennett's case you have him fighting Nick Webb first which isnt right. Nick Webb should be the last person Bennett fought in his boxing career record. Thats all im saying.
You are right, the order in the record should be changed. My point was, the ratings are calculated in the correct order. So the rating points are correct already.
yes sorry. At least you now know that the record should be adjusted in correct order of fights as they happened in the boxers careers. :TU:
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