Random things you notice in the boxing community
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margaret thatcher
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Random things you notice in the boxing community
The idea of luck in boxing is regarded as utterly awful and disrespectful to the boxers
People say losses don't matter and call for better fights, but then they absolutely do dump on guys a lot of the time for losing
More than ever, non boxers have their own fandom, and more than ever people root against fighters just because of who their promoter, manager, or advisor is
Never compare an active fighter to an ATG in any respect. Even if you just mean to draw attention to one similar aspect of their style, like a focus on body punching, you will get met with 'don't even mention them in the same sentence!!'
In boxing these days, even if you are mid 20s, you are still called a baby by a lot of people. I've recently seen people say this with Gervonta Davis for example
People say losses don't matter and call for better fights, but then they absolutely do dump on guys a lot of the time for losing
More than ever, non boxers have their own fandom, and more than ever people root against fighters just because of who their promoter, manager, or advisor is
Never compare an active fighter to an ATG in any respect. Even if you just mean to draw attention to one similar aspect of their style, like a focus on body punching, you will get met with 'don't even mention them in the same sentence!!'
In boxing these days, even if you are mid 20s, you are still called a baby by a lot of people. I've recently seen people say this with Gervonta Davis for example
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margaret thatcher
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Re: Random things you notice in the boxing community
Another one.....fighters are, for the most part, pretty sh!tty commentators and analysts
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The fans turning on fighters for a single loss is one that bugs me quite a bit, as it must discourage promoters from putting Dan favourites in dangerous fights unless the money is unbelievable (which usually it isn't).
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margaret thatcher
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Re: Random things you notice in the boxing community
Totally agree, very unhealthy mindset for the sport unfortunately. Whereas you look at MMA, and even most top fighters have all sorts of losses, yet the fans still support the fights
I guess part of the problem too is that sometimes a guy does that a tough fight and loses, and instead of getting right back in there with a credible opponent they go right back to the record building and safety of before, hence they don;t gain back credibility
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Regularly see fighters clearly losing a fight over the distance, then strongly insisting they thought they won when they know they haven't .
Very rare you see honesty and it's great to see when it happens .
Very rare you see honesty and it's great to see when it happens .
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margaret thatcher
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Re: Random things you notice in the boxing community
Very true. Also reminds me of the ol 'no excuses....but (gives loads of excuses)''
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kbackup408
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Re: Random things you notice in the boxing community
Probably has been mentioned before but I think the community generally is starting to ignore/mute the commentary during bouts - grossly biased and often disrespectful to the fan watching
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margaret thatcher
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Ya I do that a lot. It's like pissing in the face of knowledgeable fans when they speak some of that nonsense 
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kbackup408
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Re: Random things you notice in the boxing community
happy new year pal, always quality posts!margaret thatcher wrote: ↑31 Dec 2019, 19:32 Ya I do that a lot. It's like pissing in the face of knowledgeable fans when they speak some of that nonsense![]()
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I certainly hope you guys aren't muting big Ron, guy is a linguistic genius who can describe a single punch with at least a dozen insightful epithets. ![[icon_shame.gif] :shame:](./images/smilies/icon_shame.gif)
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margaret thatcher
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Re: Random things you notice in the boxing community
You too matekbackup408 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2019, 20:16happy new year pal, always quality posts!margaret thatcher wrote: ↑31 Dec 2019, 19:32 Ya I do that a lot. It's like pissing in the face of knowledgeable fans when they speak some of that nonsense![]()
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kbackup408
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Re: Random things you notice in the boxing community
aye pal, muted, ear muffs in me ear then a pair of noise cancelling headphones incase someone removes it from mute to volume 1
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Show him your toe David .margaret thatcher wrote: ↑31 Dec 2019, 19:08Very true. Also reminds me of the ol 'no excuses....but (gives loads of excuses)''
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great post.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑31 Dec 2019, 14:18 The idea of luck in boxing is regarded as utterly awful and disrespectful to the boxers
People say losses don't matter and call for better fights, but then they absolutely do dump on guys a lot of the time for losing
More than ever, non boxers have their own fandom, and more than ever people root against fighters just because of who their promoter, manager, or advisor is
Never compare an active fighter to an ATG in any respect. Even if you just mean to draw attention to one similar aspect of their style, like a focus on body punching, you will get met with 'don't even mention them in the same sentence!!'
In boxing these days, even if you are mid 20s, you are still called a baby by a lot of people. I've recently seen people say this with Gervonta Davis for example
I use the example all the time of people saying there has to be better fights and for boxers to take chances then literally after a couple of losses they are finished,How can you call for genuine 50/50 fights and when someone has six fights and loses two they are finished and were never any good anyway its ludicrous.If they really are 50 50 fights then there should be losses half the time.
In the past a few losses on the way to a british title were just part of the learning curve.
Imagine Dennis Andries,Tony Sibson,Lloyd Christie,Alan Minter,Randy Turpin,Tom colllins and so many others if they were wrote after a few early career setbacks.
The whole promoter and adviser thing is basically a wrestling fan type scenario like WWE fans boxing fans now support a brand or like to boo against a bad guy.Boxing hasgone down the route of promoting it self this way so is getting simeler casual fans.
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TheLeprechaun
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Re: Random things you notice in the boxing community
Fighters will always say their hardest fight is a fight that they actually ended up winning. Nevermind the fight where they got outclassed and starched.
They'll say the hardest hitter is also someone they ended up beating. Nevermind the time they got put to sleep by a punch.
They'll say the hardest hitter is also someone they ended up beating. Nevermind the time they got put to sleep by a punch.
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Boxerbeetle
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Re: Random things you notice in the boxing community
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 13:24 Fighters will always say their hardest fight is a fight that they actually ended up winning. Nevermind the fight where they got outclassed and starched.
They'll say the hardest hitter is also someone they ended up beating. Nevermind the time they got put to sleep by a punch.
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Re: Random things you notice in the boxing community
To be fair when you are knocked out you rarely feel a thing, its instant and your unconscious. Getting punched without being knocked out is more painful.TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 13:24 Fighters will always say their hardest fight is a fight that they actually ended up winning. Nevermind the fight where they got outclassed and starched.
They'll say the hardest hitter is also someone they ended up beating. Nevermind the time they got put to sleep by a punch.
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Forum posters making definitive comments about what the outcome of a fight is going to be based on perception of fighters' appearances at weigh-ins, perceived nerves in pre-fight press conference etc.
Rarely proves accurate and yet is repeated ad infinitum.
Rarely proves accurate and yet is repeated ad infinitum.
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The Prescott fight was easy, he slept through most of it.Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 13:34TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 13:24 Fighters will always say their hardest fight is a fight that they actually ended up winning. Nevermind the fight where they got outclassed and starched.
They'll say the hardest hitter is also someone they ended up beating. Nevermind the time they got put to sleep by a punch.Like Khan’s toughest opponent being Maidana, with no mention of Prescott / Garcia / Canelo etc.
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It pisses me off that a couple of social media f*ckwits (excuse my French, but there isn't another word for them) can earn more money for their "fight " than Loma (hallowed be his name) did for his fight.
And in the same vein, how social media and boxers blathering on it, actually enhances their careers.
Sometimes more than actually fighting someone.
Stuff all that crap!
And in the same vein, how social media and boxers blathering on it, actually enhances their careers.
Sometimes more than actually fighting someone.
Stuff all that crap!
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Ruthless-RKO
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I think even boxers say that they’re only referring to wins. A fight where they had to go the extra mile to win. His toughest win.Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 13:34TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 13:24 Fighters will always say their hardest fight is a fight that they actually ended up winning. Nevermind the fight where they got outclassed and starched.
They'll say the hardest hitter is also someone they ended up beating. Nevermind the time they got put to sleep by a punch.Like Khan’s toughest opponent being Maidana, with no mention of Prescott / Garcia / Canelo etc.
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Boxerbeetle
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Nah, boxers just like to pretend their losses never happened.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 16:28I think even boxers say that they’re only referring to wins. A fight where they had to go the extra mile to win. His toughest win.Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 13:34
Like Khan’s toughest opponent being Maidana, with no mention of Prescott / Garcia / Canelo etc.
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Old bones Ian
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Re: Random things you notice in the boxing community
Michael Buffer getting paid $25,000 to $100,000 each show , and boxers on the bill not earning anywhere near that
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Grilling Machine
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And toughest and best might not be the same person. If Calzaghe said that Lacy was the toughest he fought we'd know what he meant. And it's hard to give full credit if you're wiped out in a round or two, or especially if you're knocked out when you're in front.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 16:28I think even boxers say that they’re only referring to wins. A fight where they had to go the extra mile to win. His toughest win.
Because Loma and Usyk don't have big power everyone appreciates how they break their opponents up. Their opponents then have to admit to being second-best on the night; there's no hiding. I think that's the main reason McCallum was so avoided: not through fear, but the possibility of being outclassed round after round. No ifs, no buts.
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Ruthless-RKO
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Why would you want to think about your losses?Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 16:58Nah, boxers just like to pretend their losses never happened.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 16:28
I think even boxers say that they’re only referring to wins. A fight where they had to go the extra mile to win. His toughest win.