Gennady Golovkin vs. Kamil Szeremeta - December 18, 2020

Who wins?

Poll ended at 18 Dec 2020, 13:11

Golovkin - Decision
3
7%
Golovkin - T/KO
33
79%
DRAW
2
5%
Szeremeta - T/KO
3
7%
Szeremeta - Decision
1
2%
 
Total votes: 42

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Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kamil Szeremeta - March 28, 2020?

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boxing_rocks wrote: 16 Jan 2020, 14:49
Quite a bit for GGG fans to be concerned about here - mainly centering around the name Victor Conte.

I'm hoping that Golovkin is genuinely trying something different from his dubious usual Big Bear high altitude training regime.

I'm hoping that it's a carefully considered choice and not an act of desperation from a fighter whose last few fights have shown a noticeable decline in speed and pop.

GGG is starting to look like Mike Tyson after his 1995 return - still the dangerous but no longer the terrifying GGG of 5/6 years ago. Difficult to recall any boxer with a similar style to GGGs who lasted anywhere this long.

Intimidation has always been a huge factor in boxing and always will be. So it's not too far fetched to suggest that even the legendary Gennady Golovkin could be heading for his first genuine professional loss.

We just don't know when. Let's hope we don't find out soon.

I'd like to see GGG bow out entirely on his own terms, following in the footsteps of Marvelous Marvin Hagler who also understood the dirty sport of boxing.
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Thomastearns wrote: 17 Jan 2020, 06:24
boxing_rocks wrote: 16 Jan 2020, 14:49
Quite a bit for GGG fans to be concerned about here - mainly centering around the name Victor Conte.

I'm hoping that Golovkin is genuinely trying something different from his dubious usual Big Bear high altitude training regime.

I'm hoping that it's a carefully considered choice and not an act of desperation from a fighter whose last few fights have shown a noticeable decline in speed and pop.

GGG is starting to look like Mike Tyson after his 1995 return - still the dangerous but no longer the terrifying GGG of 5/6 years ago. Difficult to recall any boxer with a similar style to GGGs who lasted anywhere this long.

Intimidation has always been a huge factor in boxing and always will be. So it's not too far fetched to suggest that even the legendary Gennady Golovkin could be heading for his first genuine professional loss.

We just don't know when. Let's hope we don't find out soon.

I'd like to see GGG bow out entirely on his own terms, following in the footsteps of Marvelous Marvin Hagler who also understood the dirty sport of boxing.
GGG is well aware it’s dirty. That’s why he signed a $100m 6-fight deal with DAZN.

Make as much as you can and retire after this deal.
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Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kamil Szeremeta - March 28, 2020

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Pretty much every Polish boxer , I'm like, how the hell do you say his name
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Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kamil Szeremeta - March 28, 2020?

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Thomastearns wrote: 17 Jan 2020, 06:24
boxing_rocks wrote: 16 Jan 2020, 14:49
Quite a bit for GGG fans to be concerned about here - mainly centering around the name Victor Conte.

I'm hoping that Golovkin is genuinely trying something different from his dubious usual Big Bear high altitude training regime.

I'm hoping that it's a carefully considered choice and not an act of desperation from a fighter whose last few fights have shown a noticeable decline in speed and pop.

GGG is starting to look like Mike Tyson after his 1995 return - still the dangerous but no longer the terrifying GGG of 5/6 years ago. Difficult to recall any boxer with a similar style to GGGs who lasted anywhere this long.

Intimidation has always been a huge factor in boxing and always will be. So it's not too far fetched to suggest that even the legendary Gennady Golovkin could be heading for his first genuine professional loss.

We just don't know when. Let's hope we don't find out soon.

I'd like to see GGG bow out entirely on his own terms, following in the footsteps of Marvelous Marvin Hagler who also understood the dirty sport of boxing.
His decline is especially highlighted because he's fought three top fighters as opposed to his usual no-hoper.

Golovkin is arguably 2-4 in his last six fights and it has nothing to do with his age.

Match him against another no hoper and you'll see the Golovkin HBO hyped.
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He could be 2-4 or 5-1, the clear L was Canelo 2 though of course plenty of gggbois had him winning that too lol
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margaret thatcher wrote: 18 Jan 2020, 14:33 He could be 2-4 or 5-1, the clear L was Canelo 2 though of course plenty of gggbois had him winning that too lol
I saw Derevyanchenko beat him convincingly. GGG had that DAZN protection.
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If Golovkin was as protected as Canelo, he would still have 0 losses and 0 draws.
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IsaL wrote: 18 Jan 2020, 19:33
margaret thatcher wrote: 18 Jan 2020, 14:33 He could be 2-4 or 5-1, the clear L was Canelo 2 though of course plenty of gggbois had him winning that too lol
I saw Derevyanchenko beat him convincingly. GGG had that DAZN protection.
Beat CONVINCINGLY? ffs ... :witzend: ..
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IsaL wrote: 18 Jan 2020, 19:33
margaret thatcher wrote: 18 Jan 2020, 14:33 He could be 2-4 or 5-1, the clear L was Canelo 2 though of course plenty of gggbois had him winning that too lol
I saw Derevyanchenko beat him convincingly. GGG had that DAZN protection.
Thought it coulda gone either way myself, good fight
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boxing_rocks wrote: 18 Jan 2020, 20:11 If Golovkin was as protected as Canelo, he would still have 0 losses and 0 draws.
:OhYes: Yup.
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boxingfan5101 wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 02:28 Gennady Golovkin wants to retire but everyone wants to see him fight and brawl all the time. He should do what he does really best, measured distance aggression within reach. Fighting the from pocket to the phone booth.
:TU: He needs to retire but those big money are too sweet.
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boxing_rocks wrote: 18 Jan 2020, 20:11 If Golovkin was as protected as Canelo, he would still have 0 losses and 0 draws.
When Danny Jacobs is your best and its Canelo like 5-6 best win stop it.
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world ranked wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 17:56
boxing_rocks wrote: 18 Jan 2020, 20:11 If Golovkin was as protected as Canelo, he would still have 0 losses and 0 draws.
When Danny Jacobs is your best and its Canelo like 5-6 best win stop it.
Who did Canelo beat who was at the time of their fight better than Jacobs? Golovkin "win" is very questionble, and Kovalev wasn't even in the fight.
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IsaL wrote: 18 Jan 2020, 13:26arguably 2-4 in his last six fights
The argument being, what, that if you want to you can score every round he fights against him?
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Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kamil Szeremeta - March 28, 2020

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Gennadiy Golovkin’s bout against Kamil Szeremeta is a terrible fight! The Polish fighter is a similar calibre fighter to the likes of Vanes Martirosyan, Steve Rolls and many other opponents GGG has defended his titles against.

The Kazakhstani future Hall-of-Famer needs to realise that this is an “unwinnable” bout, even if he manages to add another victory to his resume, because:

• He won’t receive any credit for beating some like Szeremeta
• Gaining a victory over Szeremeta isn’t going to improve his commercial worth to negotiate future bouts or to justify his contract with DAZN
• He’ll be ridiculed if he either loses or struggles to overcome Szeremeta

When GGG initially joined DAZN, he claimed his current goal was to become the “best boxer” by engaging in the “most important” fights, not necessarily claim titles, but how can he achieve this objective by facing the likes of Steve Rolls and Kamil Szeremeta?

It’s not as if Golovkin has no choice but to take this fight, he could have faced someone else, since he wasn’t obliged by the IBF to face Szeremeta.

And let’s not forget that Kamil Szeremeta was being seriously considered for GGG’s opponent for his DAZN debut, but Gennadiy chose Steve Rolls instead.

We should also bear in mind that GGG took the Steve Rolls fight in preference to facing his fellow DAZN stablemate Demetrius Andrade, since the Kazakh was at the time the highest-ranked WBO middleweight title challenger.

There’s really no justification for someone like Gennadiy Golovkin to be facing the likes of Kamil Szeremeta, Vanes Martirosyan and Steve Rolls, when there’s clearly other big fights that can easily be made.

Oh, and by the way, GGG is in complete control over his own destiny and decision-making, because he is self-promoted. There’s no one other than himself to be blamed for his bouts against the likes of Kamil Szeremeta, Vanes Martirosyan and Steve Rolls.
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apollo creed wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 17:53
boxingfan5101 wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 02:28 Gennady Golovkin wants to retire but everyone wants to see him fight and brawl all the time. He should do what he does really best, measured distance aggression within reach. Fighting the from pocket to the phone booth.
:TU: He needs to retire but those big money are too sweet.
You're right, he's still very good but now a few years past his best - at 37 who isn't?

But it's the age old problem in boxing. Money and denial versus reality.

If he can, I think he should follow Mayweather and exhibition fight anyone who is willing to get in the ring in with him - especially if they're harmless.

The Rolling Stones are not the band they once were but there's still no shortage of people who will pay to see them.

Works in boxing too. Plenty of joke fights coming up. How about Trump v Sanders?
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boxingfan5101 wrote: 19 Jan 2020, 02:28 Gennady Golovkin wants to retire but everyone wants to see him fight and brawl all the time.
If GGG really wanted to "retire", he wouldn't have signed a $100m+ multi-fight contract with DAZN. :lol:
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boxingfan5101 wrote: 22 Jan 2020, 23:28
Enlightened-One wrote: 21 Jan 2020, 05:20
If GGG really wanted to "retire", he wouldn't have signed a $100m+ multi-fight contract with DAZN. :lol:
I'm curious, how many fights are in the contract?
6-fight deal. 2 down. 4 to go.
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Vergil pushing G back lol
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Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kamil Szeremeta - April 2020?

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From Feb, to March and now April..

He last fought in September.
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Middleweight world titlist Gennadiy Golovkin’s mandatory defense against Kamil Szeremeta, which was at first discussed for Feb. 29 and then for March 28, likely will move into April, a source with knowledge of the plans told ESPN on Wednesday. The Wintrust Arena in Chicago has been the leading site to host the bout. Golovkin won a vacant belt by close decision over Sergey Derevyanchenko on Oct. 5 in New York with Szeremeta stopping Oscar Cortes in the second round on the undercard.

Dan Rafael, ESPN Senior Writer
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 23 Jan 2020, 13:04 From Feb, to March and now April..

He last fought in September.
Canelo robberies on top of accumulated wear and tear killed his drive.
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Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kamil Szeremeta - April 2020?

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Gennady Golovkin vs. Kamil Szeremeta on April 11 in Kazakhstan possible

By Sean Jones: Gennadiy Golovkin’s next fight is now being planned for April 11 against his IBF mandatory challenger Kamil Szeremeta for either Kazakhstan or the United States. This would be shown on DAZN. Fans are really turned off about the Golovkin-Szeremeta fight, and it’s a fight that may be ignored by a lot of fans on April 11. Unless Matchroom Boxing promoter Eddie Hearn puts together a good undercard, the fans may choose not to bother watching.

The decision by Golovkin (40-1-1, 35 KOs) and his handlers for him to keep the IBF middleweight title that he won by a controversial 12 round decision over Sergiy Derevyanchenko last October is a questionable move.

Golovkin choosing to keep IBF title could be a mistake

With the decision by GGG to keep the belt rather than vacate, he’s now fighting a guy that fans have no interest in seeing him fight in 29-year-old Szeremeta, who’s career best win was arguably against little known Oscar Cortes. This is a fighter that had been beaten in his previous fight by Hugo Centeno Jr.

GGG not giving Derevyanchenko a rematch

Golovkin complained after his 12 round draw against Canelo in 2017, and he was given a rematch. But when the shoe is on the other foot, and he’s given a win that fans felt he didn’t deserve against Derevyanchenko, he moves without fighting him again. The fans would be more forgiving of GGG failing to give Derevyanchenko a rematch if he were fighting a quality opponent like Jermall Charlo or Demetrius Andrade in his next fight.

Sadly, that’s not what GGG is doing. He’s taking a soft opponent that fans have zero interest in seeing him fight in Szeremeta. Career-wise, GGG is poisoning his what’s left of his career by making the wrong moves.

Golovkin’s loss to Canelo Alvarez: GGG lost to Canelo, and a lot of his popularity with fans went out the window with that defeat. While it was a great idea for GGG to fight Derevyanchenko, it’s not smart for him to have fought Steve Rolls and now looking to face Szeremeta.
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That is a f*ckingly biased article.
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