Calzaghe Deja Vu...?

koomey · Post by **koomey** » 15 Jun 2006, 11:23

The BBC are reporting that JC will have a 'Superfight' in September.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/5083628.stm

As a Calzaghe fan I'm afraid I cannot get excited over this latest hype.

The latest opponents to be shortlisted are Jermain Taylor and Winky...

Come on Mr. Warren, let's cut the bullshit - I'll believe it when I see it.

A confused JC fan.

Koomey

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 15 Jun 2006, 11:42

It depends on your definition of a SuperFight....I would bet money that if Woods and Johnson doesn't get signed, it's a Woods/Calzaghe fight. Hardly a "SuperFight" outside of the UK.

Twinkle Toes · Post by **Twinkle Toes** » 15 Jun 2006, 12:25

Go into the BBC archives - There's some classic quotes from Frank in there. Thats right, he's been talking the same superfight nonsence for the last 7-8 years.

Can he deliver?

pasty_spud · Post by **pasty_spud** » 15 Jun 2006, 12:46

crock of shit

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 15 Jun 2006, 14:26

koomey wrote:The BBC are reporting that JC will have a 'Superfight' in September.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/5083628.stm

As a Calzaghe fan I'm afraid I cannot get excited over this latest hype.

The latest opponents to be shortlisted are Jermain Taylor and Winky...

Come on Mr. Warren, let's cut the bullshit - I'll believe it when I see it.

A confused JC fan.

Koomey

The "superfight" was supposed to be Calzaghe-Beyer.

But as usual Frankie Warren made unreasonable demands and now Beyer is fighting Mike Kessler.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 15 Jun 2006, 16:11

I sincerley doubt it will be the Wright vs Taylor winner. I would assume there will be some kind of rematch clause for that fight... plus, given the DLH and Mayweather Jnr are way off in terms of negotations, I wouldn't be surprised that DLH might go for Wright if he wins.

JimmyJamJerusalem · Post by **JimmyJamJerusalem** » 15 Jun 2006, 16:52

I heard from an insider at the Newbridge club that Calzaghe wants Floyd Mayweather.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 16 Jun 2006, 06:12

Calzaghe seems to want anyone that is smaller than him. What happened to being a 2 weight world champion and moving up to 175 that he has talked about a lot in the past? They should be trying to lure Hopkins into a fight at 175, that is a superfight not feasting on Middleweights.

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 16 Jun 2006, 06:15

koomey wrote:The BBC are reporting that JC will have a 'Superfight' in September.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/5083628.stm

As a Calzaghe fan I'm afraid I cannot get excited over this latest hype.

The latest opponents to be shortlisted are Jermain Taylor and Winky...

Come on Mr. Warren, let's cut the bullshit - I'll believe it when I see it.

A confused JC fan.

Koomey

I'm with you.

I'm so frustrated with JC, because I believe that he has great ability, but we'll never really know! :x

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 16 Jun 2006, 06:29

nickd wrote:Calzaghe seems to want anyone that is smaller than him. What happened to being a 2 weight world champion and moving up to 175 that he has talked about a lot in the past? They should be trying to lure Hopkins into a fight at 175, that is a superfight not feasting on Middleweights.

Like their going to pay the money Hopkins demands, I don't think anyone will pay him the amount he'd want.

Fighting Hop won't make him a 2 weight champion though.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 16 Jun 2006, 06:32

Max Molyneux wrote:
nickd wrote:Calzaghe seems to want anyone that is smaller than him. What happened to being a 2 weight world champion and moving up to 175 that he has talked about a lot in the past? They should be trying to lure Hopkins into a fight at 175, that is a superfight not feasting on Middleweights.
Like their going to pay the money Hopkins demands, I don't think anyone will pay him the amount he'd want.

Fighting Hop won't make him a 2 weight champion though.

In the eyes of most knowledgable fans it would pretty much make him the man at 175. And if he won he'd have an all time great and hall of famer on his ledger. I'd rather see Calzaghe moving up to 175 and fighting there than fighting middleweights who are moving up. He has talked about 175 and struggling with 168 for years time to grow some balls and step up!

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 16 Jun 2006, 06:34

Errm didn't he step up March 4th?

Your assuming he has no balls just because things havent happened.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 16 Jun 2006, 06:47

Max Molyneux wrote:Errm didn't he step up March 4th?

Your assuming he has no balls just because things havent happened.

I am talking about stepping up in weight he has talked about 175 for years and never done it - in fact he has had bouts scheduled there only to pullout and continue at 168 it does make you wonder.... Why do his proposed superfights have to be against smaller guys? If he's good enough which we know he is why not move up and fight at 175? And I think you'll find any momentum Calzaghe got on March 4th has been well and truly lost with this latest fiasco!

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 16 Jun 2006, 06:50

If Hop fought smaller men and made his name through it then why not Calzaghe then?

Is this double standards then?

And I think you'll find any momentum Calzaghe got on March 4th has been well and truly lost with this latest fiasco!

Not yet.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 16 Jun 2006, 06:58

Max Molyneux wrote:If Hop fought smaller men and made his name through it then why not Calzaghe then?

Is this double standards then?

And I think you'll find any momentum Calzaghe got on March 4th has been well and truly lost with this latest fiasco!
Not yet.

Well HBO's interest in him has supposedly cooled with what happened recently.

Not double standards at all, but Calzaghe has talked about 175 for about 5 years and done nothing other than pull out of fights scheduled at that weight. His words were something along the lines of "its my dream to retire a 2 weight world champion".

Lets be honest Calzaghe could shit on your shoes and you'd still love him! ;)

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 16 Jun 2006, 07:01

nickd wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:If Hop fought smaller men and made his name through it then why not Calzaghe then?

Is this double standards then?

And I think you'll find any momentum Calzaghe got on March 4th has been well and truly lost with this latest fiasco!
Not yet.
Well HBO's interest in him has supposedly cooled with what happened recently.

Not double standards at all, but Calzaghe has talked about 175 for about 5 years and done nothing other than pull out of fights scheduled at that weight. His words were something along the lines of "its my dream to retire a 2 weight world champion".

Lets be honest Calzaghe could shit on your shoes and you'd still love him! ;)

Lets be honest and not assume because it could happen just hasn't yet.

I love you too if you shit in my shoes.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 16 Jun 2006, 07:02

Max Molyneux wrote:
nickd wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:If Hop fought smaller men and made his name through it then why not Calzaghe then?

Is this double standards then?
Not yet.
Well HBO's interest in him has supposedly cooled with what happened recently.

Not double standards at all, but Calzaghe has talked about 175 for about 5 years and done nothing other than pull out of fights scheduled at that weight. His words were something along the lines of "its my dream to retire a 2 weight world champion".

Lets be honest Calzaghe could shit on your shoes and you'd still love him! ;)
Lets be honest and not assume because it could happen just hasn't yet.

I love you too if you shit in my shoes.

The sooner it happens the better. Or fight Kessler or Beyer. Forget middleweights there is unfinished business at 168 and above!

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 16 Jun 2006, 07:08

I wonder why at first Sauerland was talking about a Calzaghe - Beyer fight then suddenly is close to making a deal with Palle to fight Kessler.

Aren't both Joe and Kessler injured still?

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 16 Jun 2006, 07:12

Max Molyneux wrote:I wonder why at first Sauerland was talking about a Calzaghe - Beyer fight then suddenly is close to making a deal with Palle to fight Kessler.

Aren't both Joe and Kessler injured still?

Perhaps they're worried about being fucked around by Calzaghe? Lets be honest he has a reputation for doing so. Kessler is perhaps the safer bet in terms of the fight actually going ahead!

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 16 Jun 2006, 07:14

nickd wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:I wonder why at first Sauerland was talking about a Calzaghe - Beyer fight then suddenly is close to making a deal with Palle to fight Kessler.

Aren't both Joe and Kessler injured still?
Perhaps they're worried about being fucked around by Calzaghe? Lets be honest he has a reputation for doing so. Kessler is perhaps the safer bet in terms of the fight actually going ahead!

Kessler's also gaining an inury reputation too and was more inacitve than Calzaghe.

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 16 Jun 2006, 09:29

Max Molyneux wrote:
nickd wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:I wonder why at first Sauerland was talking about a Calzaghe - Beyer fight then suddenly is close to making a deal with Palle to fight Kessler.

Aren't both Joe and Kessler injured still?
Perhaps they're worried about being fucked around by Calzaghe? Lets be honest he has a reputation for doing so. Kessler is perhaps the safer bet in terms of the fight actually going ahead!
Kessler's also gaining an inury reputation too and was more inacitve than Calzaghe.

The difference is that Kessler's injuries appear to be real.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 16 Jun 2006, 09:59

Now Pundit I'm afraid you are talking out yer arse here mate. Calzaghe has long documented problems with his hands, wrists and elbows, going back MANY years. Warren himself said some time ago that Calzaghe only had 2-3 fights left in him because of all the breakdowns in training.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 16 Jun 2006, 10:11

Kessler is getting injured but he's not pulling out of many fights. Calzaghe is king of the pullouts, there isn't a fighter around who has pulled out of more fights than Calzaghe over the last decade. God knows how many I couldn't even begin to guess.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 16 Jun 2006, 10:18

pundit wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:
nickd wrote: Perhaps they're worried about being fucked around by Calzaghe? Lets be honest he has a reputation for doing so. Kessler is perhaps the safer bet in terms of the fight actually going ahead!
Kessler's also gaining an inury reputation too and was more inacitve than Calzaghe.
The difference is that Kessler's injuries appear to be real.

His injury against Ashira was shown to be real

Kessler's fighting less because of injuries though Nick.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 16 Jun 2006, 10:25

Max Molyneux wrote:
pundit wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote: Kessler's also gaining an inury reputation too and was more inacitve than Calzaghe.
The difference is that Kessler's injuries appear to be real.
His injury against Ashira was shown to be real

Kessler's fighting less because of injuries though Nick.

Better than arranging fights and then pulling out fornicating people around left right and centre. A lot of fighters might be sceptical about fighting Calzaghe as they cant guarantee they'll actually get a fight and a payday at the end of 2-3 months training they have to pay for.

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