Oscar De La Hoya and judges

[Ambling Alp II]

I guess that Mosley got the decision (like he deserved in LA) does not baffle me. I guess we are all so paranoid of bad decisions because of judges that are either corrupt, or at lest influenced by the home crowd, that we expect the hometown guy to win.

However, some judges are ethical, and some are competent. In the United States, judges are usually ethical and competent and don't usually render ridiculous verdicts. However, unjust decisions happens often enough that we are paranoid.

[chrisjs1985]

Tito was an a side too.

But not the magnitude of Oscar, you would agree? He didn't speak English, had no charisma and never crossed over like Oscar, Floyd and Ray, Mike Tyson et al. He was telegenic and exciting of course.

Tito had a ton of charisma. He was very popular among Latino boxing fans too perhaps not Mexicans quite as much but everyone else.

[chrisjs1985]

I had DLH up 7-2 after 9 rounds. His trainer, Gil Clancy told him he had the fight won and to stay away. Terrible advice. Trinidad won the last three rounds (or rather DLH gave them away.) I still scored it 7-5 for DLH.

Some people will say well 7-5, it was close, right?
Yes and no. The problem is, that you have to look at the individual rounds. Trinidad, (who did little most of the fight) simply did not win another two rounds. There are not two more rounds that were close enough to go the other way.
To give him 7 rounds, you would have to give him rounds that he clearly did not win.

Were the judges corrupt? Of course. Why? Don King.

Growing consensus is King won it for Tito, aided by De La Hoya's poor strategic decision.

The two Mosley fights though. One in LA! How did he not get those decisions?

Mosley is also from LA. That first fight being a split decision is crazy. Mosley dominated an entire half of the fight and at worst won 7 rounds.

[Onamastus]

But not the magnitude of Oscar, you would agree? He didn't speak English, had no charisma and never crossed over like Oscar, Floyd and Ray, Mike Tyson et al. He was telegenic and exciting of course.

Tito had a ton of charisma. He was very popular among Latino boxing fans too perhaps not Mexicans quite as much but everyone else.

Tito had charisma? Journalists used to complain about how dull he was all the time.

[Onamastus]

Growing consensus is King won it for Tito, aided by De La Hoya's poor strategic decision.

The two Mosley fights though. One in LA! How did he not get those decisions?

Mosley is also from LA. That first fight being a split decision is crazy. Mosley dominated an entire half of the fight and at worst won 7 rounds.

I totally forgot Mosley was from LA.

[chrisjs1985]

Tito had a ton of charisma. He was very popular among Latino boxing fans too perhaps not Mexicans quite as much but everyone else.

Tito had charisma? Journalists used to complain about how dull he was all the time.

It was more a case of his dad guarding him from press close to fight time. Anyone who's met Tito (I've had the pleasure of meeting him a couple of times) will tell you he is a very personable and charismatic dude. There's a reason Puerto Rican's loved him and many were indifferent with Cotto who was far more bland. He was not a trash talker but he had a vibrant personality for sure.

[Onetimeonly]

Tito was wildly popular. The mayorga fight was one of the wildest atmospheres I can recall. He carried Jones to a half million buys!

[chrisjs1985]

Tito was wildly popular. The mayorga fight was one of the wildest atmospheres I can recall. He carried Jones to a half million buys!

I was at the Mayorga fight. Still to me the most electrifying ring walk I can remember. The only atmosphere in Boxing that I experienced that was louder was Tszyu/Hatton.