Crawford is a real joke
Crawford is a real joke
Hasnt fought one "name" opponent in his whole career (except for prime gamboa, who is 5'5 & a natural super featherweight) and acts like a superstar. When in real world he has 0 fanbase, a boring style and brings poor ppv numbers.
He is a good twitter warrior, going after charlo bros & thurman etc.
But ones a "name" opponent comes up in disscusion in prime Porter, than all of the sudden "oh no, we friends, no fight possible"
Had the chance to join al, what does he do
"Oh no, no pbc, i stay with bobby and keep fighting c level unknown opponents"
Reminds me of ward. Boring inside & outide the ring. Atleast ward fought the best.
He is a good twitter warrior, going after charlo bros & thurman etc.
But ones a "name" opponent comes up in disscusion in prime Porter, than all of the sudden "oh no, we friends, no fight possible"
Had the chance to join al, what does he do
"Oh no, no pbc, i stay with bobby and keep fighting c level unknown opponents"
Reminds me of ward. Boring inside & outide the ring. Atleast ward fought the best.
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Ruthless-RKO
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Re: Crawford is a real joke
Have you seen a Crawford fight or are you just making stuff up?
He isn't boring in the ring.
He isn't boring in the ring.
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Nightmare Roy
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Re: Crawford is a real joke
Al Hayman is a very smart man, he knows a great fighter when he sees one, that’s why he won’t let his fighters go near him.RonnyJ wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 08:41 Hasnt fought one "name" opponent in his whole career (except for prime gamboa, who is 5'5 & a natural super featherweight) and acts like a superstar. When in real world he has 0 fanbase, a boring style and brings poor ppv numbers.
He is a good twitter warrior, going after charlo bros & thurman etc.
But ones a "name" opponent comes up in disscusion in prime Porter, than all of the sudden "oh no, we friends, no fight possible"
Had the chance to join al, what does he do
"Oh no, no pbc, i stay with bobby and keep fighting c level unknown opponents"
Reminds me of ward. Boring inside & outide the ring. Atleast ward fought the best.
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Onetimeonly
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Re: Crawford is a real joke
Probably not, he's more entertaining than loma.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 09:05 Have you seen a Crawford fight or are you just making stuff up?
He isn't boring in the ring.
Re: Crawford is a real joke
Are you purposesfuly trying to be provacative? Or do you actually believe this shite?RonnyJ wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 08:41 Hasnt fought one "name" opponent in his whole career (except for prime gamboa, who is 5'5 & a natural super featherweight) and acts like a superstar. When in real world he has 0 fanbase, a boring style and brings poor ppv numbers.
He is a good twitter warrior, going after charlo bros & thurman etc.
But ones a "name" opponent comes up in disscusion in prime Porter, than all of the sudden "oh no, we friends, no fight possible"
Had the chance to join al, what does he do
"Oh no, no pbc, i stay with bobby and keep fighting c level unknown opponents"
Reminds me of ward. Boring inside & outide the ring. Atleast ward fought the best.
Re: Crawford is a real joke
Yeah. Thats why he let floyd fight average opponents like canelo & pacquiaoNightmare Roy wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 09:11Al Hayman is a very smart man, he knows a great fighter when he sees one, that’s why he won’t let his fighters go near him.RonnyJ wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 08:41 Hasnt fought one "name" opponent in his whole career (except for prime gamboa, who is 5'5 & a natural super featherweight) and acts like a superstar. When in real world he has 0 fanbase, a boring style and brings poor ppv numbers.
He is a good twitter warrior, going after charlo bros & thurman etc.
But ones a "name" opponent comes up in disscusion in prime Porter, than all of the sudden "oh no, we friends, no fight possible"
Had the chance to join al, what does he do
"Oh no, no pbc, i stay with bobby and keep fighting c level unknown opponents"
Reminds me of ward. Boring inside & outide the ring. Atleast ward fought the best.
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Nightmare Roy
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Re: Crawford is a real joke
He had zero sway on who Floyd fought, Zero, Floyd fought whoever he damn wanted to.RonnyJ wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 11:05Yeah. Thats why he let floyd fight average opponents like canelo & pacquiaoNightmare Roy wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 09:11
Al Hayman is a very smart man, he knows a great fighter when he sees one, that’s why he won’t let his fighters go near him.
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Onetimeonly
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Re: Crawford is a real joke
Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 11:06He had zero sway on who Floyd fought, Zero, Floyd fought whoever he damn wanted to.
Crawford isn't anymore money than his own guys fighting each other. Best bets are prograis or Taylor moving up.
Re: Crawford is a real joke
Floyd was an emplyoee. Why did he had Al than if he was his own boss? What is Mayweather Promotions, exvept him MP never had 1 meaningfull boxer.Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 11:06He had zero sway on who Floyd fought, Zero, Floyd fought whoever he damn wanted to.
Oscar was a boss. Klitschko bros were bosses.
Re: Crawford is a real joke
Tentetive, boring. He waits, waits, than a counter. He does not much. I am not the only one saying that, what do u think why his viewing numbers are so low, because of his action fan entertaining styleRuthless-RKO wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 09:05 Have you seen a Crawford fight or are you just making stuff up?
He isn't boring in the ring.
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Crawford is a real joke
Are you suggesting that it’s Al Haymon’s responsibility and duty to orchestrate marquee bouts for Terence Crawford?Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 09:11Al Hayman is a very smart man, he knows a great fighter when he sees one, that’s why he won’t let his fighters go near him.
Should the PBC be obliged to ensure that Crawford always engages in big fights?
Re: Crawford is a real joke
Crawford do need to get them fights but then again I don't think anyone would take that risk at all. Low-pay out, risk of getting your ass beaten is high.
No names. But nobody dear to fight him.
No names. But nobody dear to fight him.
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Ruthless-RKO
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Re: Crawford is a real joke
Towards the end of TR/HBO, he had the best viewership numbers. His ESPN numbers have consistently been around the 2m figure.RonnyJ wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 11:32Tentetive, boring. He waits, waits, than a counter. He does not much. I am not the only one saying that, what do u think why his viewing numbers are so low, because of his action fan entertaining styleRuthless-RKO wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 09:05 Have you seen a Crawford fight or are you just making stuff up?
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Compared to A LOT of boxers, he has one of best viewership figures.
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Crawford is a real joke
Crawford’s viewership figures for HBO weren’t particularly impressive. It’s just a simple easily verifiable fact of life that isn’t worth labouring over.
And also, the numbers he draws for ESPN are actually very low, but this is probably because of the amount of subscribers associated with his platform.
I must have posted his numbers and drew comparisons to fighters aligned with other networks at least half a dozen times now.
So this isn’t me guessing or conveying an uneducated opinion.
And also, the numbers he draws for ESPN are actually very low, but this is probably because of the amount of subscribers associated with his platform.
I must have posted his numbers and drew comparisons to fighters aligned with other networks at least half a dozen times now.
So this isn’t me guessing or conveying an uneducated opinion.
Re: Crawford is a real joke
Crawford and Lomachenko are one of best boxers in world, but both have same problem. They need career defining fights. Canelo faced Golovkin, Jacobs and Kovalev and that fights catapulted him to being face of boxing. Crawford must do everything to lure Spence, Porter and Garcia in to the ring. Same for Lomachenko, his primary target should be Lopez, Davis and Berchelt. Time is running out, they cannot afford another Crollas or Khans.
Btw there is long time problem that top 147 pounders are with PBC and Crawford is with Top Rank. Bob Arum should "trade" Terrence Crawford for Gervonta Davis lol
Btw there is long time problem that top 147 pounders are with PBC and Crawford is with Top Rank. Bob Arum should "trade" Terrence Crawford for Gervonta Davis lol
Re: Crawford is a real joke
I tend to agree with some of the non-Ron comments.
Crawford does need a career defining fight. And soon.
I worry it will come too late, and we will have missed out on seeing him peaking against the best guys.
Blokes of his size age overnight. Usually just after they turn 30.
One of the things that makes Crawford so special, is his timing.
A slip in that area would make him vulnerable.
Crawford does need a career defining fight. And soon.
I worry it will come too late, and we will have missed out on seeing him peaking against the best guys.
Blokes of his size age overnight. Usually just after they turn 30.
One of the things that makes Crawford so special, is his timing.
A slip in that area would make him vulnerable.
Re: Crawford is a real joke
Crawford has more time left than Loma, who is already having injuries, all the amateur fights and that fast twitch style. Crawford's frame is better suited moving up in weight also. Loma is about maxed out unless he were to HGH himself like many(Manny) have.
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margaret thatcher
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Re: Crawford is a real joke
I could see Craw winning titles all the way up to MW, I think he's the best in the world though obviously he doesn't have the best resume, that's true
Loma is there for the taking by the young guns. Tank and Teo could do it.
Loma is there for the taking by the young guns. Tank and Teo could do it.
Re: Crawford is a real joke
As my Knowledge goes he had 0 ppv fights.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 13:37Towards the end of TR/HBO, he had the best viewership numbers. His ESPN numbers have consistently been around the 2m figure.
Compared to A LOT of boxers, he has one of best viewership figures.
if he changes his style and fights more aggressiv than id find him more entertaining. I dont like his arrogant boring personality, but at least box more fan friendly.
Re: Crawford is a real joke
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 21:29 I could see Craw winning titles all the way up to MW, I think he's the best in the world though obviously he doesn't have the best resume, that's true
Loma is there for the taking by the young guns. Tank and Teo could do it.
Spence beats him. Charlo bros too big. Same goes for canelo. Ones crawford enters the ring with the top names he gezs wrecked. I hope he does, i cant stand him.
Loma should beat all. But he has young prime strong punchers infront of him. Id favour him over all, but i wouldnt be shocked if hed get tkod. Teo, tank & haney are all p4p top 5 material. I am impressed by all of them.
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Ruthless-RKO
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Re: Crawford is a real joke
Wow.. good boxing skills doesn't always = ppv fights.RonnyJ wrote: ↑16 Apr 2020, 02:49As my Knowledge goes he had 0 ppv fights.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑15 Apr 2020, 13:37
Towards the end of TR/HBO, he had the best viewership numbers. His ESPN numbers have consistently been around the 2m figure.
Compared to A LOT of boxers, he has one of best viewership figures.
if he changes his style and fights more aggressiv than id find him more entertaining. I dont like his arrogant boring personality, but at least box more fan friendly.
Either way, you clearly just have something against Bud, as his fighting style is not boring at all.
Re: Crawford is a real joke
i never said his boxing skills are poor. his technique is excellent. also i dont care for ppv numbers. i dont like him as a person and i dont like his boxing style and to me it is boring. he rarly has an exciting fight. he does not much the whole fight, lets his opponents outpower and than at the end when opponents are gassed than he does something. just not the style or tactic i like.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑16 Apr 2020, 03:41Wow.. good boxing skills doesn't always = ppv fights.
Either way, you clearly just have something against Bud, as his fighting style is not boring at all.
inoue might be my favourite boxer right now and he is no ppv superstar, but when he fights, than i am totaly excited.
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Thomastearns
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Re: Crawford is a real joke
RonnyJ wrote: ↑16 Apr 2020, 04:01i never said his boxing skills are poor. his technique is excellent. also i dont care for ppv numbers. i dont like him as a person and i dont like his boxing style and to me it is boring. he rarly has an exciting fight. he does not much the whole fight, lets his opponents outpower and than at the end when opponents are gassed than he does something. just not the style or tactic i like.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑16 Apr 2020, 03:41
Wow.. good boxing skills doesn't always = ppv fights.
Either way, you clearly just have something against Bud, as his fighting style is not boring at all.
inoue might be my favourite boxer right now and he is no ppv superstar, but when he fights, than i am totaly excited.
Some watch to see action and some to look at records - hence their obsession with the 0.
Like you I have little time either for the dullsville ring antics of Mayweather, Ward and Crawford. For what it's worth Marciano also had the 0, Calzaghe had the 0 and GGG should have the 0. All different fighters with different styles.
Carl Froch and Ricky Hatton, both go forward fighters, don't have perfect records but who can forget their epic fights? In fact Froch hardly ever had a dull fight, and like Anthony Joshua could fill stadiums with ease and rarely disappointed.
Naoya Inoue is a tremendously exciting fighter and may have the best attack style in the whole of boxing today. Deontay Wilder is another who just doesn't have boring fights, so I will always watch him fight. His last one got more publicity than anything else since the shocking AJ - Ruiz 1.
It's all about styles and everyone's entitled to their tastes. You pays your money (or waits for the re-run) and makes your choice.
Re: Crawford is a real joke
Finaly a good post.Thomastearns wrote: ↑16 Apr 2020, 05:36RonnyJ wrote: ↑16 Apr 2020, 04:01
i never said his boxing skills are poor. his technique is excellent. also i dont care for ppv numbers. i dont like him as a person and i dont like his boxing style and to me it is boring. he rarly has an exciting fight. he does not much the whole fight, lets his opponents outpower and than at the end when opponents are gassed than he does something. just not the style or tactic i like.
inoue might be my favourite boxer right now and he is no ppv superstar, but when he fights, than i am totaly excited.
Some watch to see action and some to look at records - hence their obsession with the 0.
Like you I have little time either for the dullsville ring antics of Mayweather, Ward and Crawford. For what it's worth Marciano also had the 0, Calzaghe had the 0 and GGG should have the 0. All different fighters with different styles.
Carl Froch and Ricky Hatton, both go forward fighters, don't have perfect records but who can forget their epic fights? In fact Froch hardly ever had a dull fight, and like Anthony Joshua could fill stadiums with ease and rarely disappointed.
Naoya Inoue is a tremendously exciting fighter and may have the best attack style in the whole of boxing today. Deontay Wilder is another who just doesn't have boring fights, so I will always watch him fight. His last one got more publicity than anything else since the shocking AJ - Ruiz 1.
It's all about styles and everyone's entitled to their tastes. You pays your money (or waits for the re-run) and makes your choice.