Worst Boxing Tipster Of All Time

garethdooley · Post by **garethdooley** » 19 Jun 2006, 09:20

i am a professional gambler and i have logged onto this website for a while now for an insite to into boxing so i can earn a bit of money whilst enjoying watching an excellent sport i was doing pretty well thanks to all of your knowlegable advice that was until i happened to log on to mr"cant pick his nose" biltons sporting life boxing tippping site mr bilton seemed as if he knew his stuff so i 4t i would follow his advice. and oh my god what a mistake that was i know you cant get every decision right but come on mr bilton the goods or whoever you are what planet are you from i cant believe that such a well regarded firm as the one you work for could hire such a baffoon to advise us on what to gamble our hard earned cash on and you havn,t even got the decency to apolagise for your disastrous predictions i cant believe your employers have stood for your pathetic predictions for so long i think you must get your inspiration from playing a playstation infact i know what you do. you close your eyes and stick a pin in a name oops you cant do that cos then you would get around 50% right instead of 5% do us all a favour and dissapear derek

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 19 Jun 2006, 10:02

prometheus wrote:While the above posts would strongly seem to suggest that Mr Bilton may be somewhat less than s great boxing tipster... on a sidenote, is anyone aware of any 'good' boxing tipsters in the media, I don't expect any media pundit to be a Nostradamus, just curious etc.

Graham Houston seems pretty reliable thus far. He didn't get Winky v Taylor right (nobody except Doug Fischer at maxboxing did), or Tarver v Hop, but these were not the results people expect.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 19 Jun 2006, 10:18

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
prometheus wrote:While the above posts would strongly seem to suggest that Mr Bilton may be somewhat less than s great boxing tipster... on a sidenote, is anyone aware of any 'good' boxing tipsters in the media, I don't expect any media pundit to be a Nostradamus, just curious etc.
Graham Houston seems pretty reliable thus far. He didn't get Winky v Taylor right (nobody except Doug Fischer at maxboxing did), or Tarver v Hop, but these were not the results people expect.

Yes, year in year out Houston gets more right than anyone else I've ever read. He hardly ever gets them wrong, and those two mentioned above were very hard calls to get 100% spot on.

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 19 Jun 2006, 11:10

He is also a damn good writer.

Probably the best of the journalists around at the moment (other than when MacIlveney (spelling?) does the occasional piece).

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 19 Jun 2006, 15:30

Where does Graham Houston do previews - on a website or do you mean stuff in Boxing Monthly.

On the Mr Bilton mini-saga, this thread has drawn out a few people with 'Posts: 1' by their name. I smell a rat.

Leave the poor sod alone. You don't have to take his advice. Don't take mine either. Another 50 down the drain on Winky. Taylor far better than I expected.

states · Post by **states** » 19 Jun 2006, 15:39

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Where does Graham Houston do previews - on a website or do you mean stuff in Boxing Monthly.

http://www.fightwriter.com

Well worth a read.

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 19 Jun 2006, 15:42

states wrote:
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Where does Graham Houston do previews - on a website or do you mean stuff in Boxing Monthly.
http://www.fightwriter.com

Well worth a read.

Cheers states. Need to start making some money back. Having a mare of a year. Even when I think I call 'em right (Skelton-Williams) I do my brains. Will certainly check out that site.

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 19 Jun 2006, 15:56

A few on weekly betting thread in the current scene forum went for the draw on Taylor-Wright. Armageto usually puts up what he thinks are good plays, he's had some good wins recently and he's pretty consistent , pop in next week

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 19 Jun 2006, 15:56

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote: On the Mr Bilton mini-saga, this thread has drawn out a few people with 'Posts: 1' by their name. I smell a rat.

Leave the poor sod alone. You don't have to take his advice. Don't take mine either. Another 50 down the drain on Winky. Taylor far better than I expected.

Exactly what I am thinking, I can guarentee that Mr Bilton has posted on this forum on at least one occasion- but it is not for me to say what user name as that is up to him. I will say that I cannot GUARENTEE that any of the username's posting on this particular thread are him.

Agree with the rest of your post also, just because he isn't right all of the time doesn't mean he knows nout about the game. I've apparently, earned some US gambler shit loads on British/European fights via e-mail - still didn't stop me from putting a wager on Mario Veit to beat Joe Calzaghe in their first meeting.

larry cake · Post by **larry cake** » 19 Jun 2006, 16:56

on the subject of DEREK BILTON i made a post on the website regarding him and i am just confirming that i am part of no conspiracy to degrade him, but after reading some of the other posts i am now of the opinion that somthing underhand may be occouring, but i must admit that i thought "garethdooley"s post was hilarious.

punchers chance · Post by **punchers chance** » 20 Jun 2006, 08:57

Gareth Dooley aka professional gambler. Do me a favour.

You are telling us you will put your cash down on a subject you nothing about because someone on a website gives you a tip. Come on.

I am not Derek Bilton.

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » 20 Jun 2006, 09:19

Just like to say thanks to the chaps who offered up Graham Houston at fightwriter, had a little browse around and the man does seem to 'know his onions'.
I'll check out his previews over the coming months, looks as if it could be a worthwhile excercise, thanks again all.

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » 20 Jun 2006, 09:21

MIght as well mention in passing that I have no connection to Mr Bilton or to anybody who is looking to give him a hard time.... 8)

Hagler2002 · Post by **Hagler2002** » 21 Jun 2006, 05:25

his punching power is legendary

So are his boxing tips for been utter b0ll0cks

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 21 Jun 2006, 06:25

The point is he's giving you value for money on long(ish) shots...that have a fair chance of coming off ( ie not impossible like Winky to win by 1st round KO last week for instance ) it's not meant to be taken as gospel is it - though some simple souls seem to see it this way

See it in those terms, and his picks look ok to me - though of course 20/20 hindsight makes anyone a genius.

If you want the bleeding obvious, ask down at the pub.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 21 Jun 2006, 06:31

I take your point. It's always tempting to go for the long shots, but only when there's a reasonable chance of them coming off.

Betting on boxing is only really interesting if you've either got shit loads of cash to bet on a favourite, or there are lots of long shots you want to spread around on. These come off more seldom, but you can get cracking odds on round by round KO's.

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 21 Jun 2006, 07:36

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
prometheus wrote:While the above posts would strongly seem to suggest that Mr Bilton may be somewhat less than s great boxing tipster... on a sidenote, is anyone aware of any 'good' boxing tipsters in the media, I don't expect any media pundit to be a Nostradamus, just curious etc.
Graham Houston seems pretty reliable thus far. He didn't get Winky v Taylor right (nobody except Doug Fischer at maxboxing did), or Tarver v Hop, but these were not the results people expect.

I have had a couple of good wins lately - Hopkins to beat Tarver at 3/1, and Taylor & Winky draw at 20/1. Also sent the latter onto a few mates who done well out of it. Always thought it would be a close fight and said in my message that I expected it to be so close that if either guy won it, it would be 7-5 in rounds. I told them the chances of a draw IMO were probably 1 in 4 for that bout so 20/1 was great value. Not sure if I posted this in here anywhere but I may have.

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 21 Jun 2006, 07:38

There ya go, I did post it on here....

http://www.boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... ht=#533349

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 21 Jun 2006, 07:55

johnswan1 wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
prometheus wrote:While the above posts would strongly seem to suggest that Mr Bilton may be somewhat less than s great boxing tipster... on a sidenote, is anyone aware of any 'good' boxing tipsters in the media, I don't expect any media pundit to be a Nostradamus, just curious etc.
Graham Houston seems pretty reliable thus far. He didn't get Winky v Taylor right (nobody except Doug Fischer at maxboxing did), or Tarver v Hop, but these were not the results people expect.
I have had a couple of good wins lately - Hopkins to beat Tarver at 3/1, and Taylor & Winky draw at 20/1. Also sent the latter onto a few mates who done well out of it. Always thought it would be a close fight and said in my message that I expected it to be so close that if either guy won it, it would be 7-5 in rounds. I told them the chances of a draw IMO were probably 1 in 4 for that bout so 20/1 was great value. Not sure if I posted this in here anywhere but I may have.

Wish I'd put a tenner on the sodding draw now.

:(

Hagler2002 · Post by **Hagler2002** » 21 Jun 2006, 07:59

MightyWarrior wrote:The point is he's giving you value for money on long(ish) shots...that have a fair chance of coming off ( ie not impossible like Winky to win by 1st round KO last week for instance ) it's not meant to be taken as gospel is it - though some simple souls seem to see it this way

See it in those terms, and his picks look ok to me - though of course 20/20 hindsight makes anyone a genius.

If you want the bleeding obvious, ask down at the pub.

Value for money? where?.....value for money is when you get something in exchange for cash that is considered to be a bargain, I would not class constent losers "value for money"

Winky Wright winning in round 1

come on

as far as asking down the pub the local alky's talk more sense so you could be correct

Hagler2002 · Post by **Hagler2002** » 21 Jun 2006, 08:01

I had £8 on Wright to win and £2 on the Draw at 25/1, wish I had put it on the other way around :(

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 21 Jun 2006, 10:33

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
johnswan1 wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote: Graham Houston seems pretty reliable thus far. He didn't get Winky v Taylor right (nobody except Doug Fischer at maxboxing did), or Tarver v Hop, but these were not the results people expect.
I have had a couple of good wins lately - Hopkins to beat Tarver at 3/1, and Taylor & Winky draw at 20/1. Also sent the latter onto a few mates who done well out of it. Always thought it would be a close fight and said in my message that I expected it to be so close that if either guy won it, it would be 7-5 in rounds. I told them the chances of a draw IMO were probably 1 in 4 for that bout so 20/1 was great value. Not sure if I posted this in here anywhere but I may have.
Wish I'd put a tenner on the sodding draw now. :(

james you always do this, bemoan that you were 'about to get a bet on' but didn't for whatever reason. I'm telling you now, bet on AJAMU and don't miss out

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 21 Jun 2006, 10:48

Sadly I don't have a debit or credit card due to crap bank account and dodgy credit history, and so I am reliant on me remembering to pass a bookmakers to put a bet on. I seldom remember, and thus am always bemoaning.

I think I'll put some cash on an Ajamu win by KO in 6-12.

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 21 Jun 2006, 11:21

Hagler2k6 wrote:I had £8 on Wright to win and £2 on the Draw at 25/1, wish I had put it on the other way around :(

Yes, yes. If you were a true betting man, you would know the unwritten rules. One of them is never to come out with 'I wish...', especially when you are up on the deal anyway.

Bad form. Enjoy the £42 you are up.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 21 Jun 2006, 11:23

hmm bet365 don't seem to have any odds on offer for the Adjamu fight. Dog's cocks!

Worst Boxing Tipster Of All Time

derek bilton