Why was John Tate picked for the USA Olympic team in 76?

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 16 Jan 2006, 15:33

I was just thinking what lead to John Tate being picked at Heavyweight for the USA Olympic team when in early 1976 he was KO'd in the first round by Emory Chapman?

Chapman and Tate met in what I believe was called 'The Tournament Of Champions' in early 1976. Chapman came out aggressively and forced Tate on to the back foot. About half way through the opening round Tate unleashed a big overhand right, Chapman slipped it and connected with his own straight right and Tate went down.....Goodnight!!!!

So what happened next that meant Tate got to be on the Olympic team?

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 19 Jan 2006, 17:39

From what I understand, he won the Olympic Trials, beating Michael Dokes and Marvin Stinson, two guys who had beaten him earlier.

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 17 Mar 2006, 18:28

Nile4000 wrote:From what I understand, he won the Olympic Trials, beating Michael Dokes and Marvin Stinson, two guys who had beaten him earlier.

Anway, who could have beaten Teofilo?

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 18 Mar 2006, 08:59

pundit wrote:Anway, who could have beaten Teofilo?

Igor Visotsky.

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 19 Mar 2006, 19:27

KOJOE90 wrote:
pundit wrote:Anway, who could have beaten Teofilo?
Igor Visotsky.

Why didn't he fight in Montreal?

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 20 Mar 2006, 11:35

I would have given Dokes a shot in a rematch.Greg Page and Tubbs were too inexperienced, and maybe Stinson had a shot also.I read somewhere that Vysotsky didn't go because of some decision they made because of his cut factor.Also,didn't Tate lose at the '75 GG, since Dokes won in '76?

Ken · Post by **Ken** » 23 Jun 2006, 16:35

Stinson was in the trials. Chapman had a bad hand which may have determined this. He was going into medical school to be a surgeon after boxing at I believe Duke.

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 24 Jun 2006, 12:05

ken hissner wrote:Stinson was in the trials. Chapman had a bad hand which may have determined this. He was going into medical school to be a surgeon after boxing at I believe Duke.

Did Jimmy Clark make the trials?

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 25 Jun 2006, 12:43

pundit wrote:
KOJOE90 wrote:
pundit wrote:Anway, who could have beaten Teofilo?
Igor Visotsky.
Why didn't he fight in Montreal?

Because he was a very bad bleeder and the Russians didn't fancy his chances of not getting cut early in the games.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 27 Jul 2006, 12:10

That sounds a bit unrealistic Joseph but yeah he did kayo Teo once or twice.

Tate got the job when he knocked out Michael Dokes in 3 rds.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 28 Jul 2006, 13:07

overhand_right wrote:That sounds a bit unrealistic Joseph

Just going by what I have been told by some usually reliable sources Overhand. Below is a related quote.

"USSR sent both Viktor Ivanov and Vysotsky to the Montreal Olympics 1976 - Vysotsky would be the choice if USSR drew against Cuba. Feeling was that Vysotsky's eyebrows couldn't hold up for the number of fights required."

overhand_right wrote:Tate got the job when he knocked out Michael Dokes in 3 rds.

I have a few amateur fights of both Dokes and Tate on tape but know nothing about them fighting each other. Any more information to share?

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 29 Jul 2006, 10:07

KOJOE90 wrote:
overhand_right wrote:That sounds a bit unrealistic Joseph
Just going by what I have been told by some usually reliable sources Overhand. Below is a related quote.

"USSR sent both Viktor Ivanov and Vysotsky to the Montreal Olympics 1976 - Vysotsky would be the choice if USSR drew against Cuba. Feeling was that Vysotsky's eyebrows couldn't hold up for the number of fights required."

overhand_right wrote:Tate got the job when he knocked out Michael Dokes in 3 rds.
I have a few amateur fights of both Dokes and Tate on tape but know nothing about them fighting each other. Any more information to share?

I know Dokes beat Tate en route to the National Golden Gloves Title back in '76.I think it was a split verdict.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 29 Jul 2006, 10:10

Nile4000 wrote:
KOJOE90 wrote:
overhand_right wrote:That sounds a bit unrealistic Joseph
Just going by what I have been told by some usually reliable sources Overhand. Below is a related quote.

"USSR sent both Viktor Ivanov and Vysotsky to the Montreal Olympics 1976 - Vysotsky would be the choice if USSR drew against Cuba. Feeling was that Vysotsky's eyebrows couldn't hold up for the number of fights required."

overhand_right wrote:Tate got the job when he knocked out Michael Dokes in 3 rds.
I have a few amateur fights of both Dokes and Tate on tape but know nothing about them fighting each other. Any more information to share?
I know Dokes beat Tate en route to the National Golden Gloves Title back in '76.I think it was a split verdict.

So Dokes & Tate fought twice as amateurs then?

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 01 Aug 2006, 09:31

Im struggling to recall Jolene but yes actually i think they fought more than once in the same trials. Dokes initially winning 1 or maybe 2 decisions over Tate, but then Tate beat someone maybe a Jimmy Clark but when it counted in the final fight he iced Dokes in 3 rds im sure i have that on VHS. Why do you think a guy like Dokes wasnt at the 76 Olympics & turned pro that year..?

Dokes also had lost to Teo but by points now i definitely do have that on tape...

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 09 Aug 2006, 14:05

overhand_right wrote:Im struggling to recall Jolene but yes actually i think they fought more than once in the same trials. Dokes initially winning 1 or maybe 2 decisions over Tate, but then Tate beat someone maybe a Jimmy Clark but when it counted in the final fight he iced Dokes in 3 rds im sure i have that on VHS.

Thanks for the info' Geri Curl, I think I have Tate vs Clark on tape myself but will have to check. Along with Dokes vs Stinson along with many others but like yourself am struggling to remember, will have to check to be sure.

overhand_right wrote:Why do you think a guy like Dokes wasnt at the 76 Olympics & turned pro that year..?

I hadn't given that too much thought to be honest, I just assumed he lost to someone in the USA trails, and when I started this thread I wasn't sure who that was. Or I just thought it was just the decision reached by the USA Olympic Boxing Council.

overhand_right wrote:Dokes also had lost to Teo but by points now i definitely do have that on tape...

Yes, on the Dokes amatuer fights I have they talk about it and they say how Dokes was young at the time (16ish?) and they were keen to get a rematch with The Cuban Missile Launcher.

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 10 Aug 2006, 09:19

KOJOE90 wrote:
overhand_right wrote:Im struggling to recall Jolene but yes actually i think they fought more than once in the same trials. Dokes initially winning 1 or maybe 2 decisions over Tate, but then Tate beat someone maybe a Jimmy Clark but when it counted in the final fight he iced Dokes in 3 rds im sure i have that on VHS.

Thanks for the info' Geri Curl, I think I have Tate vs Clark on tape myself but will have to check. Along with Dokes vs Stinson along with many others but like yourself am struggling to remember, will have to check to be sure.

overhand_right wrote:Why do you think a guy like Dokes wasnt at the 76 Olympics & turned pro that year..?
I hadn't given that too much thought to be honest, I just assumed he lost to someone in the USA trails, and when I started this thread I wasn't sure who that was. Or I just thought it was just the decision reached by the USA Olympic Boxing Council.

overhand_right wrote:Dokes also had lost to Teo but by points now i definitely do have that on tape...
Yes, on the Dokes amatuer fights I have they talk about it and they say how Dokes was young at the time (16ish?) and they were keen to get a rematch with The Cuban Missile Launcher.

He may have beaten Teo in a rematch. I know he mentioned that he felt everyone was against him because of his flamboyance, and he got tired of fighting against the same guys.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 11 Aug 2006, 11:03

KOJOE90 wrote:Yes, on the Dokes amatuer fights I have they talk about it and they say how Dokes was young at the time (16ish?) and they were keen to get a rematch with The Cuban Missile Launcher.

Amazing Dokes was only 16 when he fought Stevenson in 1975. But if he wanted a rematch he should have qualified for the Olympics

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overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 15 Aug 2006, 06:40

Well Dokes would have got away with it had it not been for that pesky John Tate!

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 15 Aug 2006, 13:37

He barely got through Greg Page as it was.

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