The Best Fighter in Rematches
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elmersalsa
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The Best Fighter in Rematches
The great Azumah Nelson proved that he was a bad mutha when it came to rematches. Who was the best fighter, or name fighters that were the best the second time around?
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Joe Louis. He did better the second time against Max Schmeling, Bob Pastor, Abe Simon, Buddy Baer, Billy Conn, Arturo Godoy and Jersey Joe Walcott.
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Lennox Lewis always seemed to be better the second time around. He defeated Mccall Rahman and Holyfield.
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Ambling Alp II
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Lewis looked better than Rahman and McCall, but worse against Holyfield in their rematch.
One guy that did surprisingly well in rematches was Max Baer. Lost to Schaaf, Risko, and Farr the first time; beat them the second time. He did lose twice to Nova at the end of his career.
Ali fought a lot guys multiple times and almost always did better in the rematch.
Holyfield did pretty well in rematches as well.
One guy that did surprisingly well in rematches was Max Baer. Lost to Schaaf, Risko, and Farr the first time; beat them the second time. He did lose twice to Nova at the end of his career.
Ali fought a lot guys multiple times and almost always did better in the rematch.
Holyfield did pretty well in rematches as well.
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Tarver had a great start, Dawson the only blemish. But jones, Johnson and Harding was top notch.
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Marciano
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Nelson is a good shout...especially going second time round with Fenech in Oz who was pure quality himself.
Patterson came back well (twice) after a right tanking from Johansson...definitely settled that argument.
Joe Louis also properly sorted out Max Schmeling.
Patterson came back well (twice) after a right tanking from Johansson...definitely settled that argument.
Joe Louis also properly sorted out Max Schmeling.
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Koichi Wajima - was once called by a boxing mag as 'Mr. Rematch'. Performed better in all 5 of his rematches with Tetsuo Hoshino, George Carter, Miguel DeOliviera, Oscar Albarado and Jae-Do Yuh.
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Marvin Hagler.
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Re: The Best Fighter in Rematches
Azumah Nelson had:
Mario Martinez
Jeff Fenech
Marcos Villasana
Jesse James Leija
Gabriel Ruelas
Would have he beaten the great Salvador Sanchez in a rematch?
Mario Martinez
Jeff Fenech
Marcos Villasana
Jesse James Leija
Gabriel Ruelas
Would have he beaten the great Salvador Sanchez in a rematch?
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Sugar Ray Robinson.
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Floyd. Not that many rematches but I’d bet if he fought 5 more he’d have done better in all of them
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Fury did better in his 3 rematches, turned 2 decisions (1 often considered a gift to him) and a draw into 3 stoppages, arguably didnt lose a round combined in the redos
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Re: The Best Fighter in Rematches
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑20 Jul 2020, 02:28 Fury did better in his 3 rematches, turned 2 decisions (1 often considered a gift to him) and a draw into 3 stoppages, arguably didnt lose a round combined in the redos
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Ambling Alp II
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I dunno. Some times he did better in the rematches. However, against Ali and Liston, he did worse.Counter-puncher wrote: ↑19 Jul 2020, 06:52 Floyd. Not that many rematches but I’d bet if he fought 5 more he’d have done better in all of them
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was thinking MayweatherAmbling Alp II wrote: ↑20 Jul 2020, 09:04I dunno. Some times he did better in the rematches. However, against Ali and Liston, he did worse.Counter-puncher wrote: ↑19 Jul 2020, 06:52 Floyd. Not that many rematches but I’d bet if he fought 5 more he’d have done better in all of them
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Floyd only had 2 rematches his entire career. I'm leaning towards Carlos Ortiz. He had 9 rematches throughout his career and performed better in 8 of them. The rematch and rubber match with Loi I'm not certain of. Both took place in Loi's stomping grounds of Milan and I've heard some dubious things, but suffice to say Ortiz did not get the decision in either of them. But still, with the level of comp Ortiz was fighting, 8 out of 9 was pretty damn good.Counter-puncher wrote: ↑20 Jul 2020, 09:11was thinking MayweatherAmbling Alp II wrote: ↑20 Jul 2020, 09:04I dunno. Some times he did better in the rematches. However, against Ali and Liston, he did worse.Counter-puncher wrote: ↑19 Jul 2020, 06:52 Floyd. Not that many rematches but I’d bet if he fought 5 more he’d have done better in all of them
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I know, that's why i said 'not that many rematches' but given his ring IQ and ability to adjust within fights, and how well he handled his 2, i'd be happy to bet he'd have got better in every single rematch if he'da had more of 'emscartissue wrote: ↑20 Jul 2020, 10:06Floyd only had 2 rematches his entire career.Counter-puncher wrote: ↑20 Jul 2020, 09:11was thinking MayweatherAmbling Alp II wrote: ↑20 Jul 2020, 09:04
I dunno. Some times he did better in the rematches. However, against Ali and Liston, he did worse.
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Oh, Mayweather.
Well, obviously Mayweather should be credit for fights that never happened. Not Patterson though.
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Floyd always gets credit for fights he never had. On a current scene debate Leonard was criticised for not taking fights less dangerous than the ones he did, while Floyd was praised for taking fights long after the opponent had ceased to be dangerous.Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑20 Jul 2020, 15:14 Oh, Mayweather.Well, obviously Mayweather should be credit for fights that never happened. Not Patterson though.
Mayweather casts an amazing spell over people.
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Could not agree more. 
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Best answer! Lost to Lamotta and destroyed him in their final bout, decisioned Zivic , kayoed him in the rematch, also when he was past his best defeated Turpin, Fullmer , Basillio, and Olson in rematches. He finally lost to Paul Pender twice in a row, but was pushing 40 by that time.
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Re: The Best Fighter in Rematches
Sugar Ray Robinson
Carlos Monzon
Not in their league obviously but Wilfredo Gomez 2-0 in rematches..
And thought he "lost" to Michael Spinks, Larry Holmes was good in rematches too.
Muhammad Ali was something like 8-0
in rematches.
To me, Joe Louis takes the title though...
Carlos Monzon
Not in their league obviously but Wilfredo Gomez 2-0 in rematches..
And thought he "lost" to Michael Spinks, Larry Holmes was good in rematches too.
Muhammad Ali was something like 8-0
in rematches.
To me, Joe Louis takes the title though...
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Re: The Best Fighter in Rematches
Depends on how far off his peak Sanchez would be.elmersalsa wrote: ↑18 Jul 2020, 17:50 Azumah Nelson
Would have he beaten the great Salvador Sanchez in a rematch?