Why is DLH waiting till next year to fight

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 27 Jun 2006, 11:51

Why? He already had a long rest after the Hopkins fight.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/5104356.stm

It will cost him against Mayweather.

Or is DLH not really what he used to be like Mosley and Vargas?

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 27 Jun 2006, 12:25

I've read somewhere that his is still recovering from injury (shoulder?) and so therefore had to wait for the next available TV date early next year.

Anyway the negotiations with Mayweather Jr will take forever no doubt anyway.

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 27 Jun 2006, 12:53

I heard he tore his forearm against Mayorga, so he wanted to get fully healed.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 27 Jun 2006, 13:53

There is something also about the May date that DLH is planning.... Sorry, I'm not to hot on my Latino history but I have read its a celebrated weekend is when DLH is planning on fighting in Latin America - thus making this fight as big as possible.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 27 Jun 2006, 13:57

He has a few injuries which need to heal, including a damaged rotator cuff.

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 27 Jun 2006, 14:12

stujones wrote:There is something also about the May date that DLH is planning.... Sorry, I'm not to hot on my Latino history but I have read its a celebrated weekend is when DLH is planning on fighting in Latin America - thus making this fight as big as possible.

5/5/07...Cinco de Mayo...big latin (Mexican?) holiday.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 27 Jun 2006, 14:24

Mattyp151 wrote:
stujones wrote:There is something also about the May date that DLH is planning.... Sorry, I'm not to hot on my Latino history but I have read its a celebrated weekend is when DLH is planning on fighting in Latin America - thus making this fight as big as possible.
5/5/07...Cinco de Mayo...big latin (Mexican?) holiday.

Thats the one.

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 27 Jun 2006, 14:41

He should get stripped of WBC if he's planning another layoff.

Shirow · Post by **Shirow** » 27 Jun 2006, 15:50

stujones wrote:
Mattyp151 wrote:
stujones wrote:There is something also about the May date that DLH is planning.... Sorry, I'm not to hot on my Latino history but I have read its a celebrated weekend is when DLH is planning on fighting in Latin America - thus making this fight as big as possible.
5/5/07...Cinco de Mayo...big latin (Mexican?) holiday.
Thats the one.

That's right & September 16th is Mexican Independance day so those are the 2 biggest dates in the Mexican calendar so he's only looking to box on one of them.

CrunchTime · Post by **CrunchTime** » 27 Jun 2006, 21:54

Mattyp151 wrote:
stujones wrote:There is something also about the May date that DLH is planning.... Sorry, I'm not to hot on my Latino history but I have read its a celebrated weekend is when DLH is planning on fighting in Latin America - thus making this fight as big as possible.
5/5/07...Cinco de Mayo...big latin (Mexican?) holiday.

That also gives him time heal numerous nagging injuries and last but not least, a chance for public demand to build for the fight, much like Leonard did when he delayed his megafight against Hagler!

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 28 Jun 2006, 04:14

stujones wrote:
Mattyp151 wrote:
stujones wrote:There is something also about the May date that DLH is planning.... Sorry, I'm not to hot on my Latino history but I have read its a celebrated weekend is when DLH is planning on fighting in Latin America - thus making this fight as big as possible.
5/5/07...Cinco de Mayo...big latin (Mexican?) holiday.
Thats the one.

Stu - I always go to Vegas for Cinco de Mayo. Always a huge fight on and Vegas is hooching with Jennifer Lopez lookalikes. I thoroughly recommend it

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 28 Jun 2006, 06:33

This will be the biggest non-heavyweight title fight in history I think. Oscar's last fight (more than likely), 5th May, against the man many consider P4P top dog, this will be absolutely huge, Oscar has already participated in 4 out of 5 of the top PPV's ever, this one could possibly be bigger than even Holyfield v Tyson II.

Slapsie Maxie · Post by **Slapsie Maxie** » 28 Jun 2006, 06:58

jamesmcdonnell wrote: this one could possibly be bigger than even Holyfield v Tyson II.

'ear 'ear

Slapsie

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 28 Jun 2006, 07:30

With Oscar being a bit inactive, I'm wondering how much he'll have left. I wouldn't mind so much if he had a tune up before FLoyd but FLoyd might not be able to handle being a Light Middle so it's interesting.

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 28 Jun 2006, 07:32

ticket prices will be eye watering

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 28 Jun 2006, 07:42

This fight is going to sell big regardless of how long Oscar stays out. I'd prefered him to get a fight in maybe december or early 2007 with someone like Powell or Ouma those alone he should get over 5 mill. Then PBF in Summer 2007.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 28 Jun 2006, 08:57

Oscar can obviously not motivate himself for those fights, and they are a big risk, at this stage of his career, someone like Ouma, Karmazin et al might well beat him. Oscar was never a big light middleweight, and the physical advantages he holds over Mayweather, or a crude brawling welter like Mayorga, simply wouldn't be there against Ouma.

Oscar is doing the right thing, why jeapordize what I think is going to be the biggest fight in history for a tune up he might lose?

The fight will be far bigger on May 5th than at any other time of the year, as that date has gone, it makes sense for him to wait for it to roll around again, presuming that is what he is going to do.

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 28 Jun 2006, 09:13

Yes he's doing the right thing, I just stated what I'd preferred. He wont have much trouble with Powell.

What I'd like to see is them both fighting on same card, perhaps in Winter. That card would be BIG, both against easy tune ups, to set a stage for the HUGE fight between them on May 5th. Another year out for Oscar may be too much.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 28 Jun 2006, 11:43

Isn't Kassim Ouma a Golden Boy fighter? So I cannot see Oscar tarnishing the box office appeal of one his fighters, by whooping him himself (which Oscar would do).

CrunchTime · Post by **CrunchTime** » 28 Jun 2006, 17:32

Max Molyneux wrote:With Oscar being a bit inactive, I'm wondering how much he'll have left. I wouldn't mind so much if he had a tune up before FLoyd but FLoyd might not be able to handle being a Light Middle so it's interesting.

He was very encouraged by the way he handled the 20-month layoff against Mayorga and says a 12-month stint will effect him even less!

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 28 Jun 2006, 19:28

I think the break did him more good than harm and another one isn't such a bad thing. Although, I do hope he ticks over during the break and not look like he could compete in a pie eating contest against James Toney, Ricky Hatton and Danny Williams (as he did earlier this year).

The one question mark on the "new" and revitalised DLH that he hasn't answered is - can he sustain the pace he set vs Mayorga for 12 rounds.

2020hindsight · Post by **2020hindsight** » 28 Jun 2006, 20:18

stujones wrote:I think the break did him more good than harm and another one isn't such a bad thing. Although, I do hope he ticks over during the break and not look like he could compete in a pie eating contest against James Toney, Ricky Hatton and Danny Williams (as he did earlier this year).

The one question mark on the "new" and revitalised DLH that he hasn't answered is - can he sustain the pace he set vs Mayorga for 12 rounds.

He will need to if he is going to defeat Mayweather. If he is able to do that it is a very winnable fight against the naturally smaller man.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 29 Jun 2006, 04:46

CrunchTime wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:With Oscar being a bit inactive, I'm wondering how much he'll have left. I wouldn't mind so much if he had a tune up before FLoyd but FLoyd might not be able to handle being a Light Middle so it's interesting.
He was very encouraged by the way he handled the 20-month layoff against Mayorga and says a 12-month stint will effect him even less!

Comparing fighting Mayorga to Pretty Boy Floyd, is like comparing shagging Letitia Dean and Heidi Klum.

Oscar may be able to get fit and relatively sharp, but it will be in making the adjustments during the fight he may find himself struggling.

CrunchTime · Post by **CrunchTime** » 29 Jun 2006, 17:06

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
CrunchTime wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:With Oscar being a bit inactive, I'm wondering how much he'll have left. I wouldn't mind so much if he had a tune up before FLoyd but FLoyd might not be able to handle being a Light Middle so it's interesting.
He was very encouraged by the way he handled the 20-month layoff against Mayorga and says a 12-month stint will effect him even less!
Comparing fighting Mayorga to Pretty Boy Floyd, is like comparing shagging Letitia Dean and Heidi Klum.

Oscar may be able to get fit and relatively sharp, but it will be in making the adjustments during the fight he may find himself struggling.

I'm quite sure Oscar was referring to the conditioning factor and didnt intend it as a comparison between Mayorga and Floyd, he knows better.