Seems like bad news for the division.Boxing Prospect wrote: ↑04 Oct 2020, 13:08Channel 7 Thailand will have it, at the moment it's unclear on international distribution
They are both backed by the same financial group. It's in their best interest to keep the guys apart. A unification bout is great if fighters can draw more for unified champion, but in reality having these two guys unify take the teams from being able to get 2 sets of paydays to a single one.jujigatame wrote: ↑04 Oct 2020, 11:36 Is there any reason a Menayothin vs. Freshmart unification doesn't happen in Thailand? I have no idea what the promotional landscape is like over there.
Given both are also backed by CP Freshmart, they would cut their marketing reach from the sport, so won't want them to unify.
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Maybe they are awaiting for Menayothin versus Safeway or him versus Piggly Wiggly to take place first..jujigatame wrote: ↑04 Oct 2020, 11:36 Is there any reason a Menayothin vs. Freshmart unification doesn't happen in Thailand? I have no idea what the promotional landscape is like over there.
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But it makes $ense...jujigatame wrote: ↑04 Oct 2020, 13:42Seems like bad news for the division.Boxing Prospect wrote: ↑04 Oct 2020, 13:08Channel 7 Thailand will have it, at the moment it's unclear on international distribution
They are both backed by the same financial group. It's in their best interest to keep the guys apart. A unification bout is great if fighters can draw more for unified champion, but in reality having these two guys unify take the teams from being able to get 2 sets of paydays to a single one.jujigatame wrote: ↑04 Oct 2020, 11:36 Is there any reason a Menayothin vs. Freshmart unification doesn't happen in Thailand? I have no idea what the promotional landscape is like over there.
Given both are also backed by CP Freshmart, they would cut their marketing reach from the sport, so won't want them to unify.
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HEYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAntonioMartin wrote: ↑05 Oct 2020, 14:35Maybe they are awaiting for Menayothin versus Safeway or him versus Piggly Wiggly to take place first..jujigatame wrote: ↑04 Oct 2020, 11:36 Is there any reason a Menayothin vs. Freshmart unification doesn't happen in Thailand? I have no idea what the promotional landscape is like over there.![]()
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jujigatame wrote: ↑05 Oct 2020, 17:31HEYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAntonioMartin wrote: ↑05 Oct 2020, 14:35Maybe they are awaiting for Menayothin versus Safeway or him versus Piggly Wiggly to take place first..jujigatame wrote: ↑04 Oct 2020, 11:36 Is there any reason a Menayothin vs. Freshmart unification doesn't happen in Thailand? I have no idea what the promotional landscape is like over there.![]()
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What the fuk is cp freshmart. Been hearing this name in Thai boxing for years. Could of sworn a few different fighters went by the name 
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They take the name of their gym.watsupdoc87 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2020, 19:03 What the fuk is cp freshmart. Been hearing this name in Thai boxing for years. Could of sworn a few different fighters went by the name![]()
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Onetimeonly wrote: ↑05 Oct 2020, 19:35They take the name of their gym.watsupdoc87 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2020, 19:03 What the fuk is cp freshmart. Been hearing this name in Thai boxing for years. Could of sworn a few different fighters went by the name![]()
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And confusingwatsupdoc87 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2020, 20:25Onetimeonly wrote: ↑05 Oct 2020, 19:35They take the name of their gym.watsupdoc87 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2020, 19:03 What the fuk is cp freshmart. Been hearing this name in Thai boxing for years. Could of sworn a few different fighters went by the name![]()
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Seems like a division they should get rid of (but won’t) when you have four belt-holders and maybe 20 semi-legitimate opponents for them to fight, but that’s long been the case at the weight.
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True,. I was exaggerating. Maybe 4-5 is more like itOnetimeonly wrote: ↑05 Oct 2020, 20:37Been a long time since any division had 20 semi legitimate opponents
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More than heavy. Lolgiacomino wrote: ↑05 Oct 2020, 20:43True,. I was exaggerating. Maybe 4-5 is more like itOnetimeonly wrote: ↑05 Oct 2020, 20:37Been a long time since any division had 20 semi legitimate opponents
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Although it's TRUE that many Thai's take the name of their gym CP Freshmart is not one of those cases. Instead they have taken the name of a sponsor, CP Freshmart are part of a huge food group in Thailand.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑05 Oct 2020, 20:28And confusing
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Alright but how do you differentiate between 2 guys from the same gym Then?Boxing Prospect wrote: ↑06 Oct 2020, 03:34Although it's TRUE that many Thai's take the name of their gym CP Freshmart is not one of those cases. Instead they have taken the name of a sponsor, CP Freshmart are part of a huge food group in Thailand.
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Same way you tell two guys with the same last name apart.
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e.g. Samartlek Kokietgym is not the same guy as Tepparith Kokietgym.
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Is cp not down as the first name and freshmart as the surname? 
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It will ALWAYS BEwatsupdoc87 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2020, 08:16 Is cp not down as the first name and freshmart as the surname?![]()
Fighter name (For example - Knockout, Petch, Petchmanee) followed by Gym or Sponsor (CP Freshmart, Kokietgym, Sor Rungvisai, Nakornluang).
Typically those following the Thai scene will referee to a fighter by their Fighter name (so instead o Srisaket Sor Rungvisai it will be just be "Srisaket".
"CP Freshmart" is a full "surname" if you want to Westernise like "van Rensburg" or "Van Barneveld".
A fantastic explanation can be found here:
https://www.siamfightmag.com/en/muaytha ... i-fighters (more specifically Muay Thai fighters but the tradition is now well and truly set in professional boxing too)
Just going to add, fighters can (and do) change their gym and sponsors quite regularly, so can get more confusing that it perhaps needs to be. Also first names can be shared, so at one point recently we had two "Petch" and two "Kongfah", we also had "Petch CP Freshmart", "Petchmanee CP Freshmart" and "Apichet Petchmanee" (which I believe is actually his real name)
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It’s a supermarket, I believe, that sponsors the fighters and they incorporate into their namewatsupdoc87 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2020, 19:03 What the fuk is cp freshmart. Been hearing this name in Thai boxing for years. Could of sworn a few different fighters went by the name![]()
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Boxing Prospect wrote: ↑06 Oct 2020, 11:12It will ALWAYS BEwatsupdoc87 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2020, 08:16 Is cp not down as the first name and freshmart as the surname?![]()
Fighter name (For example - Knockout, Petch, Petchmanee) followed by Gym or Sponsor (CP Freshmart, Kokietgym, Sor Rungvisai, Nakornluang).
Typically those following the Thai scene will referee to a fighter by their Fighter name (so instead o Srisaket Sor Rungvisai it will be just be "Srisaket".
"CP Freshmart" is a full "surname" if you want to Westernise like "van Rensburg" or "Van Barneveld".
A fantastic explanation can be found here:
https://www.siamfightmag.com/en/muaytha ... i-fighters (more specifically Muay Thai fighters but the tradition is now well and truly set in professional boxing too)
Just going to add, fighters can (and do) change their gym and sponsors quite regularly, so can get more confusing that it perhaps needs to be. Also first names can be shared, so at one point recently we had two "Petch" and two "Kongfah", we also had "Petch CP Freshmart", "Petchmanee CP Freshmart" and "Apichet Petchmanee" (which I believe is actually his real name)
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So Thai fans would refer to Moonsri as Menayothin? Or Wanheng?Boxing Prospect wrote: ↑06 Oct 2020, 11:12It will ALWAYS BEwatsupdoc87 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2020, 08:16 Is cp not down as the first name and freshmart as the surname?![]()
Fighter name (For example - Knockout, Petch, Petchmanee) followed by Gym or Sponsor (CP Freshmart, Kokietgym, Sor Rungvisai, Nakornluang).
Typically those following the Thai scene will referee to a fighter by their Fighter name (so instead o Srisaket Sor Rungvisai it will be just be "Srisaket".
"CP Freshmart" is a full "surname" if you want to Westernise like "van Rensburg" or "Van Barneveld".
A fantastic explanation can be found here:
https://www.siamfightmag.com/en/muaytha ... i-fighters (more specifically Muay Thai fighters but the tradition is now well and truly set in professional boxing too)
Just going to add, fighters can (and do) change their gym and sponsors quite regularly, so can get more confusing that it perhaps needs to be. Also first names can be shared, so at one point recently we had two "Petch" and two "Kongfah", we also had "Petch CP Freshmart", "Petchmanee CP Freshmart" and "Apichet Petchmanee" (which I believe is actually his real name)
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Wanheng, Wanheng is his fighting name, Menayothin is a gym he fought underjujigatame wrote: ↑06 Oct 2020, 12:15So Thai fans would refer to Moonsri as Menayothin? Or Wanheng?Boxing Prospect wrote: ↑06 Oct 2020, 11:12It will ALWAYS BEwatsupdoc87 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2020, 08:16 Is cp not down as the first name and freshmart as the surname?![]()
Fighter name (For example - Knockout, Petch, Petchmanee) followed by Gym or Sponsor (CP Freshmart, Kokietgym, Sor Rungvisai, Nakornluang).
Typically those following the Thai scene will referee to a fighter by their Fighter name (so instead o Srisaket Sor Rungvisai it will be just be "Srisaket".
"CP Freshmart" is a full "surname" if you want to Westernise like "van Rensburg" or "Van Barneveld".
A fantastic explanation can be found here:
https://www.siamfightmag.com/en/muaytha ... i-fighters (more specifically Muay Thai fighters but the tradition is now well and truly set in professional boxing too)
Just going to add, fighters can (and do) change their gym and sponsors quite regularly, so can get more confusing that it perhaps needs to be. Also first names can be shared, so at one point recently we had two "Petch" and two "Kongfah", we also had "Petch CP Freshmart", "Petchmanee CP Freshmart" and "Apichet Petchmanee" (which I believe is actually his real name)
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It does kind of feel like a capitalist hellscape, though, taking on a corporation's name like that. A step worse than the ads on the trunks or on some dudes' backs. "I loved it when Roy Amazon beat Bernard Google."