Oleksandr Usyk vs. Derek Chisora - October 31, 2020

Who wins?

Poll ended at 01 Nov 2020, 04:08

Usyk - Decision
33
54%
Usyk - T/KO
20
33%
DRAW
1
2%
Chisora - T/KO
7
11%
Chisora - Decision
0
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Total votes: 61

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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Derek Chisora - October 31, 2020

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Usyk lost 2 prime years :maybe:
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Press Release | Timlin vs. Skelly joins Usyk-Chisora undercard

Amy Timlin and Carly Skelly will contest the vacant Commonwealth Super-Bantamweight title live on Sky Sports Box Office and DAZN, Saturday 31st October.

The unbeaten pair were scheduled to fight earlier this month but now find themselves on the undercard to Oleksandr Usyk’s monster fight against Derek Chisora.

Rising star Timlin (4-0) is tipped for a bright future, training under the tutelage of Kieran Farrell and managed by Dave Coldwell.

“I’m buzzing for this. I’ve been training throughout lockdown, and I’m ready to go. This fight will push me on; it’s all about learning. The pressure is on her, Carly will come out all guns blazing, but we’ve got a steady game plan. I can’t wait for the first bell; this platform is huge,” revealed Timlin.

“I’m really excited to have Amy on such a massive show like this. Thanks to Eddie for giving us a slot in these testing times. Amy is a fantastic fighter, at 20 years old, I think she’ll show people in the next year or two she is the next generation of flag bearers coming through in Women’s boxing,” said Coldwell.

Southpaw Scouser Skelly (3-0) splits her time working in Children’s nursing, training out of the North Mersey ABC gym, and raising her two young children.

“It’s been a long camp having to juggle things about, but I’ve had some time off recently to concentrate on the fight,” said Skelly. “It’s a massive risk for Amy to take at her age; she won’t have felt power like this from a more mature fighter. This fight opens doors; I believe in myself and want to reach the World level.”

Promoter Eddie Hearn added: “We’ve seen some amazing domestic fights recently in women’s boxing, and this is another cracker. Two unbeaten fighters gunning for a World Title, the winner here will put themselves into contention for just that in 2021.”

Timlin vs. Skelly joins McCarthy vs. Laggoune and Selby vs. Kambosos Jr on the Usyk-Chisora undercard with more additions to be confirmed shortly.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Oct 2020, 14:59
Luis Ortiz only needed to beat the “fearsome” Christian Hammer in order to receive a second opportunity to challenge Deontay Wilder for his WBC world title.

Luis Ortiz received a lot of praise from his obscenely loyal fans (that frequent this forum) for facing Hammer, but if Dave Allen beats him, the very same people will choose to remain silent.

Just saying. :lol:
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Syntax Error wrote: 08 Oct 2020, 05:35
Evander wrote: 08 Oct 2020, 00:42 How much has Chisora got left ?
Size, Chisora has enough weight and boxing savvy to make it competitive in a one off.
Is he up for 12 rounds at a pace ?
I think Chisora's weight is a negative.

He's always carried too much weight, but against a mover like Usyk that excess weight will make him a sitting duck.
Possible.
Yet last time I saw Usyk 215 was against a 242 Witherspoon and it seemed to me that at one point Usyk's punches weren't putting as much of a dent in Witherspoon as I would have thought.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Derek Chisora - October 31, 2020

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I don’t rate Usyk anywhere near as high as most but I think Chisora’s style is tailor made for the Ukrainian and he’ll take it rather comfortably.
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TempleSlave wrote: 10 Oct 2020, 19:25 I don’t rate Usyk anywhere near as high as most but I think Chisora’s style is tailor made for the Ukrainian and he’ll take it rather comfortably.
ya he's the exact type of style chis struggles with
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margaret thatcher wrote: 10 Oct 2020, 20:48
TempleSlave wrote: 10 Oct 2020, 19:25 I don’t rate Usyk anywhere near as high as most but I think Chisora’s style is tailor made for the Ukrainian and he’ll take it rather comfortably.
ya he's the exact type of style chis struggles with
Who's he ever fought with a like style?
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box and move, a good few guys, even kaybyel (usually a come forward attacker) beat him doing that, Pulev beat him comfortably jabbing and moving, Fury did it easy the second time. basically when people talk about unmotivated chisora, they really mean fights where he fought guys who boxed him and didnt let him fight his fight

obviously not someone who is exactly the same as usyk though
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Usyk, besides his chazz fight, is predominantly a volume puncher. Agree it doesn't bode well for Derek.
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he uses a box and move style a lot, he is versatile an can box different ways


glowacki
huck
gassiev
all his wsb fights vs super heavyweights
and of course his hw fight with witherspoon, which might be the most reflectve of the approach he will take vs heavier guys.

all box and move and i have little doubt he does this approach vs chizzy too. doesnt mean he cant turn it up at some point and have his hands busy too
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I've never seen chisora fight a guy that boxed and moved with busy hands.
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He's fought a number of guys who box him, keep the jab busy, move, and don't stand on spot trading with him, that's what Usyk will do and Ussy has used that style plenty. Given the type of fighter Chis is and how Usyk boxed vs Witherspoon and vs bigger guys in WSB, no doubt to me Usyk will take that approach here

how do you expect Usyk to fight? take the fight to him and back him up?
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I expect usyk to do exactly what you do. I just don't see the blueprint for it being chisora's kryptonite.
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Ah okay. To me it's pretty obvious that's what he struggles with when you look at his performances, even Kaybayel turned into a boxer and beat him that way
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Didn't watch that one. His biggest problem here, and most losses, is talent.
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Agree, lacks the talent to be competitive with top end boxers and movers, and even cant handle agit kabayels boxing

Stand toe to toe with him and he'll be able to trade on even terms or better with most guys though
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margaret thatcher wrote: 11 Oct 2020, 03:46 Agree, lacks the talent to be competitive with top end boxers and movers, and even cant handle agit kabayels boxing

Stand toe to toe with him and he'll be able to trade on even terms or better with most guys though
:TU:

He could never win a round against Byrd.
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I see little point in Dereck shedding weight for this fight. He's never going to compete with Usyk in terms of speed and mobility, his only advantages are size, strength and power. Unless Usyk has started to decline, Delboy is likely to be chasing shadows. He will make sure Usyk knows he's been in a fight though.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 11 Oct 2020, 02:31
margaret thatcher wrote: 10 Oct 2020, 20:48
TempleSlave wrote: 10 Oct 2020, 19:25 I don’t rate Usyk anywhere near as high as most but I think Chisora’s style is tailor made for the Ukrainian and he’ll take it rather comfortably.
ya he's the exact type of style chis struggles with
Who's he ever fought with a like style?
Gassiev comes to mind (mine anyway). And that was Usyk’s best performance IMO.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Derek Chisora - October 31, 2020

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TempleSlave wrote: 11 Oct 2020, 07:27
Onetimeonly wrote: 11 Oct 2020, 02:31
margaret thatcher wrote: 10 Oct 2020, 20:48

ya he's the exact type of style chis struggles with
Who's he ever fought with a like style?
Gassiev comes to mind (mine anyway). And that was Usyk’s best performance IMO.
We were talking about chisora.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 11 Oct 2020, 15:13
TempleSlave wrote: 11 Oct 2020, 07:27
Onetimeonly wrote: 11 Oct 2020, 02:31

Who's he ever fought with a like style?
Gassiev comes to mind (mine anyway). And that was Usyk’s best performance IMO.
We were talking about chisora.
Anyone with a similar style to Usyk, Chisora will lose against. Even a boxer with half of what Usyk has, beats Chisora.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Derek Chisora - October 31, 2020

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 11 Oct 2020, 15:18
Onetimeonly wrote: 11 Oct 2020, 15:13
TempleSlave wrote: 11 Oct 2020, 07:27
Gassiev comes to mind (mine anyway). And that was Usyk’s best performance IMO.
We were talking about chisora.
Anyone with a similar style to Usyk, Chisora will lose against. Even a boxer with half of what Usyk has, beats Chisora.
Lol
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Bellew is backing his buddy in whatever way he can.

"He's my friend, he's like a member of my family. I'm backing him, I'm there for him whatever he needs, whatever he wants, I will be there. But believe you me, there is nothing I can do for him on October 31. He's going to have to do it all himself. Believe you me, he has it all to do," Bellew told Sky Sports.

"[Usyk] is the most avoided fighter probably in the world. An amazing fighter. If anyone can do it, when their back is against the wall and they are written off by everyone, then Chisora can. I'm hoping his big right hand lands, and he gets the job done. But this is a hard one. It will be very tough.

"I still think [Usyk is] a little bit open and can be caught. Watching his amateur fights, there was always a reaction from him when he got caught clean, but no one has exploited that so far in the pros. His chin is up in the air sometimes and if that continues then it might get caught one time."
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Derek Chisora - October 31, 2020

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gilgamesh wrote: 29 Sep 2020, 11:51
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Sep 2020, 11:46
gilgamesh wrote: 29 Sep 2020, 11:43 Jesus Christ it's taking forever for this fight to actually happen.
I still want to see Parker vs. Chisora
Might still be an option after this fight. Chisora never seems to lose any credibility even when he's beaten.
'e's a donkey, mate.
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