Mike Tyson vs. Roy Jones Jr. - November 28, 2020

Who wins?

Poll ended at 28 Nov 2020, 07:41

Tyson
22
48%
Jones
24
52%
 
Total votes: 46

Tony1244
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Re: Mike Tyson vs. Roy Jones Jr. - November 28, 2020

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Stupid to have other boxers score the fight. They knew how they were voting before the fight, based on who they like.

Tyson obviously won.

Way too much holding allowed.

The rolgaine and Weedmaps ads say it all. :lol:
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Re: Mike Tyson vs. Roy Jones Jr. - November 28, 2020

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Why was jones thanking his Russian fans ha. Does he still have that Russian citizenship? :bag:
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Re: Mike Tyson vs. Roy Jones Jr. - November 28, 2020

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H8Usernames wrote: 29 Nov 2020, 01:41
lazboy wrote: 29 Nov 2020, 01:29
H8Usernames wrote: 29 Nov 2020, 01:27 Thank god thats over. Mike Tyson could have finished that fight in the 4th and 5th round when he hurt Roy badly, I hope Roy didnt get too damaged from that affair. Jesus. Hope this thing was worth the cash.
Lol what. Roy’s fine. I’m sure he spars all the time.
Those were some murderous punches that connected on him, doesnt matter how much you spar at best those punches are gonna kill a few braincells. Roy doesnt get hit with punches like those sparring.

Those punches gave Andrew Golota a concussion, a fractured left cheekbone and a slipped-disc neck injury. Brian Nielsen and Frank Bruno got detached retinas. Dangerous stuff.
FFs, tyson was pulling his punches. If you couldn't see that you're not much of a boxing fan.
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Re: Mike Tyson vs. Roy Jones Jr. - November 28, 2020

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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 30 Nov 2020, 07:35
H8Usernames wrote: 29 Nov 2020, 01:41
lazboy wrote: 29 Nov 2020, 01:29

Lol what. Roy’s fine. I’m sure he spars all the time.
Those were some murderous punches that connected on him, doesnt matter how much you spar at best those punches are gonna kill a few braincells. Roy doesnt get hit with punches like those sparring.

Those punches gave Andrew Golota a concussion, a fractured left cheekbone and a slipped-disc neck injury. Brian Nielsen and Frank Bruno got detached retinas. Dangerous stuff.
FFs, tyson was pulling his punches. If you couldn't see that you're not much of a boxing fan.
I watched the fight on my tiny phonescreen so discounting the possibility that the view on it was just too limited inbetween rounds four and five I believe it was you could see that Roy was simply devastated. In the round before the break Mike had landed a couple of deadly shots on him and it was for me very worrying to see.
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seems you are an extremely experienced guy being on the receiving end of some 'murderous shots' to the head.

h-user8.

while you've obviously physically survived those repeated brutalizing beatdowns execution style onto your noggin it was your cerebral capacities that fell victim to those 'deadly shots'.
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Re: Mike Tyson vs. Roy Jones Jr. - November 28, 2020

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The main thing that surprised me about this fight was Jones Jr punch resistance. Even if Tyson was holding back I expected any sort of clean punch to hurt him, but he took the shots well.
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Report | Mike Tyson vs. Roy Jones Jr. sold 1.2 million PPVs

According to a report from Dan Rafael, the recent boxing pay-per-view event between Mike Tyson and Roy Jones Jr. sold 1.2 million PPVs.

Tyson and Jones met last Saturday in the main event of a high-profile boxing card that also featured a co-main event between Jake Paul and Nate Robinson. The 54-year-old Tyson and 51-year-old Jones Jr. entertained fans for old time’s sake in an eight-round draw, while Paul knocked out Robinson in the co-main event in a devastating fashion. Also on the card was Badou Jack, plus there were musical performances from the likes of Snoop Dogg and Wiz Khalifa. Overall, it was a big home run of an event for Triller.

According to Rafael, the numbers for the Tyson vs. Jones Jr. PPV are strong. The scribe reports that the show sold up to 1.2 million buys, while also noting that it’s the biggest-selling boxing PPV card in quite some time. Compared to 1.2 million for Tyson vs. Jones Jr., Rafael also reports that the Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder fight sold 850,000 buys.







This is a massive home run for the promoter Triller as well as Tyson and Jones Jr., who reportedly took home paydays of $10 million and $3 million, respectively. It’s likely that since the PPV did better than expected that both fighters earned PPV points. In fact, Paul admitted that he also got bonus money after scoring that viral KO over Robinson.

The 1.2 million number also shows that boxing fans, and sports fans in general, are still willing to spend their hard-earned money on big fights. Even though both guys are older fighters, it was still a big-name fight on paper, and for the most part, the card delivered At $50 instead of $80, it was a much easier sell for fans, as well. Overall, a success.
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Re: Mike Tyson vs. Roy Jones Jr. - November 28, 2020

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1.2 million?

Just to compare with the recent ones:

- Canelo vs GGG I - 1.3 mil
- KSI v Logan Paul - 1.3 mil
- Mayweather vs Ortiz - 1.25 mil
- Pac vs Marquez IV - 1.15 mil
- Canelo vs GGG II - 1.1 mil

And the old ones:

- Lewis-Tyson - 1.97 mil
- Tyson-Holyfield I - 1.59 mil
- Lewis-Holyfield I - 1.2 mil

That tells something about people's expectations from the sport.
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Re: Mike Tyson vs. Roy Jones Jr. - November 28, 2020

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As we’ve already seen with Adrien Broner, it proves that celebrity status and self-marketing is far more important than talent in order to garner interest from fight fans.

Fighters like Terence Crawford need to learn this valuable lesson.
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Re: Mike Tyson vs. Roy Jones Jr. - November 28, 2020

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Enlightened-One wrote: 02 Dec 2020, 07:52 As we’ve already seen with Adrien Broner, it proves that celebrity status and self-marketing is far more important than talent in order to garner interest from fight fans.

Fighters like Terence Crawford need to learn this valuable lesson.
It's mostly ALWAYS been the case for PPV's..

You need to have an appeal for the casual mainstream..
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Re: Mike Tyson vs. Roy Jones Jr. - November 28, 2020

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Only 850K for Fury-Wilder II? That is some embarrassing numbers & a huge concern for the sport that the best boxing has to offer today rivals against washed up fighters & celebrities

1.2 million buys for Tyson-Jones is quite good considering how past their primes they are.
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emallini wrote: 01 Dec 2020, 13:52 The main thing that surprised me about this fight was Jones Jr punch resistance. Even if Tyson was holding back I expected any sort of clean punch to hurt him, but he took the shots well.
:doh: :brick: :witzend: :oops: :shame: :oops:
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lol i remember ppl treating fury-wilder 1 like it was some smash success when it did like 325 k :lol:
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Re: Mike Tyson vs. Roy Jones Jr. - November 28, 2020

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adislav123 wrote: 02 Dec 2020, 22:53
emallini wrote: 01 Dec 2020, 13:52 The main thing that surprised me about this fight was Jones Jr punch resistance. Even if Tyson was holding back I expected any sort of clean punch to hurt him, but he took the shots well.
:doh: :brick: :witzend: :oops: :shame: :oops:
You have never boxed.
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Re: Mike Tyson vs. Roy Jones Jr. - November 28, 2020

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Post 4 Post wrote: 02 Dec 2020, 22:19 Only 850K for Fury-Wilder II? That is some embarrassing numbers & a huge concern for the sport that the best boxing has to offer today rivals against washed up fighters & celebrities

1.2 million buys for Tyson-Jones is quite good considering how past their primes they are.
I think the figures are warped because because of the pandemic and various restrictions imposed upon us.

I don't believe that in normal times that 'two uncles fighting at a barbeque'* would have attracted so many buys during normal times.

* Copyright Snoop Dogg 2020🤣
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Syntax Error wrote: 03 Dec 2020, 08:15
Post 4 Post wrote: 02 Dec 2020, 22:19 Only 850K for Fury-Wilder II? That is some embarrassing numbers & a huge concern for the sport that the best boxing has to offer today rivals against washed up fighters & celebrities

1.2 million buys for Tyson-Jones is quite good considering how past their primes they are.
I think the figures are warped because because of the pandemic and various restrictions imposed upon us.

I don't believe that in normal times that 'two uncles fighting at a barbeque'* would have attracted so many buys during normal times.

* Copyright Snoop Dogg 2020🤣
That's a fair point in terms of the numbers for Tyson-Jones being warped due to the pandemic.

This card wasn't rivalling with any other events either & some have also suggested the youtubers were responsible for most buys.

1.2 is still good for Tyson-Jones & the fact it did better than Fury-Wilder II also.

With Fury-Wilder II though which was between 2 of the current best who were undefeated Heavyweight champions. In a very marketable rematch too that was heavily promoted & had their first to sell off of ONLY getting 850k is pretty sad!

I'm sure AJ-Fury would crush 850K
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Those numbers can either be seen as a half-win for the sport or a half-loss. It shows the sport has still its fascination but should adapt to more modern ways of marketing, other than push promoters to do better. In a sense, the fact some celebrities decide to dip into boxing and promote how the sport is hard but satisfying for them is good.
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Re: Mike Tyson vs. Roy Jones Jr. - November 28, 2020

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emallini wrote: 02 Dec 2020, 23:09
adislav123 wrote: 02 Dec 2020, 22:53
emallini wrote: 01 Dec 2020, 13:52 The main thing that surprised me about this fight was Jones Jr punch resistance. Even if Tyson was holding back I expected any sort of clean punch to hurt him, but he took the shots well.
:doh: :brick: :witzend: :oops: :shame: :oops:
You have never boxed.
apart from that you're wrong one doesn't need to 'have boxed' to clearly see that mike indeed softened up roy's midsection pretty good with some bodyshots he did put 'some' steam behind but not once took a serious effort not pulling his punches to hurt roy to the head or effectively targeted his chin to get him out of there. not once. it was a show. a 'fighting exhibition', whatever it was, definitely not a real fight where one man's goal is to seriously hurt the other man with 'bad intentions'.
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The fact this seems to have been a massive success in financial terms depresses the hell out of me. I won't ever bother to watch it even though it's free. What a crock of shite.
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Re: Mike Tyson vs. Roy Jones Jr. - November 28, 2020

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candyslim wrote: 06 Dec 2020, 04:34 The fact this seems to have been a massive success in financial terms depresses the hell out of me. I won't ever bother to watch it even though it's free. What a crock of shite.
I think the success of this was massively down the pandemic.

We're in unusual times & this was a novel event that wasn't up against anything of any note.

I think that in normal times, it might have been treated the way it ought to be, a curious oddity between two old men at least a quarter of a century past their respective primes.
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Re: Mike Tyson vs. Roy Jones Jr. - November 28, 2020

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According to Triller, it did 1.6m buys
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Syntax Error wrote: 06 Dec 2020, 11:50
candyslim wrote: 06 Dec 2020, 04:34 The fact this seems to have been a massive success in financial terms depresses the hell out of me. I won't ever bother to watch it even though it's free. What a crock of shite.
I think the success of this was massively down the pandemic.

We're in unusual times & this was a novel event that wasn't up against anything of any note.

I think that in normal times, it might have been treated the way it ought to be, a curious oddity between two old men at least a quarter of a century past their respective primes.
You have more faith in the casual fanbase than I do, clearly. I'm not saying the pandemic wasn't a factor but there are plenty of people with more money than sense who lap up these freak-shows. I'm thinking Mayweather vs McGregor, but it's hardly a new thing - at least Ali vs Inoki wasn't PPV. I hoped it would bomb and the promoters would lose so much money they would be discouraged from any more of these cynical cash-grabs.

PT Barnum knew what he was talking about when he said, what was it, something like "Nobody ever went broke by underestimating the taste of the public". It's as true today as it ever was. :verysad:
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Re: Mike Tyson vs. Roy Jones Jr. - November 28, 2020

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Mike Tyson’s exhibition versus Roy Jones Jr. garnered over 1.6 million pay-per-view buys, Triller owner Ryan Kavanaugh told Boxing Scene.

Triller reportedly paid $50 million to land the rights to the fight and charged viewers $50 to order the event. If the 1.6 million number holds, the TikTok rival and social platform will have made $80,000,000 for their pilot program and launch into their live events business.

More PPV buys should be tabulated in the coming weeks as traditional cable operators share those numbers with Triller.

“Despite everyone wanting for it not to work, we upset them by changing things up and making it work and dominated the conversation,” Kavanaugh said.

Shortly after the completion of Tyson vs. Jones, Triller announced that it had formed a boxing program with entertainer Snoop Dogg billed as Fight Club, a separate entity from Tyson’s newly launched Legends Only League.

Triller and Snoop Dogg plan on putting on five to eight PPV events in 2021 following the same structure as Tyson vs. Jones featuring up-and-coming fighters and musical acts — sans the old man exhibition matches.

Tyson took home nearly $10 million for his scrap, while Jones had a $3 million payday. The purses listed for each all-time great by the California State Athletic Commission was $1 million.

Although the match was billed as an exhibition and not a “real fight” plenty of people were still interested in what both fighters had left in the tank.

The event marks the first boxing PPV that has gone over the million barrier since Canelo Alvarez and Gennadiy Golovkin crossed that threshold in back-to-back fights in 2017 (1.3 million) and 2018 and (1.1 million).

Tyson accumulated nearly the same PPV numbers he collected in his 1996 fight versus Evander Holyfield (1.59 million), but couldn't best his 1.97 million PPV number with Lennox Lewis in 2002, or the 1.99 million PPV figure from his rematch with Holyfield in 1997.

The “Bite Fight” still stands as the best-selling heavyweight fight of all time.

For context, the Tyson Fury versus Deontay Wilder rematch earlier this year drew nearly 850,000 PPV buys in what was arguably the most heavily promoted fight of all time from joint broadcast partners ESPN and FOX.
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