Top fights: 2012 GGG vs 2012 Martinez; 2013 GGG vs 2013 Froch@168 lbs and 2014 GGG vs 2014 Canelo @ 155-156 c/w lbs ?

[apollo creed]

Imo these would've been Golovkin's best ideal matches when he was younger.

So, how these fights would've pan out?

In 2012 Martinez vs Golovkin @ 160 lbs ?

In 2013 Froch vs Golovkin @ 168 lbs or 165 lbs c/w?

In 2014 Canelo vs Golovkin @ 155-156 lbs c/w?

[Cent0089]

Imo these would've been Golovkin's best ideal matches when he was younger.

So, how these fights would've pan out?

In 2012 Martinez vs Golovkin @ 160 lbs ?

In 2013 Froch vs Golovkin @ 168 lbs or 165 lbs c/w?

In 2014 Canelo vs Golovkin @ 155-156 lbs c/w?

2017 and 2018 Canelo vs GGG fights was top

[apollo creed]

Imo these would've been Golovkin's best ideal matches when he was younger.

So, how these fights would've pan out?

In 2012 Martinez vs Golovkin @ 160 lbs ?

In 2013 Froch vs Golovkin @ 168 lbs or 165 lbs c/w?

In 2014 Canelo vs Golovkin @ 155-156 lbs c/w?

2017 and 2018 Canelo vs GGG fights was top

Yes but Golovkin was 34-35 y/o

In 2014 Golovkin was younger and fresher.

[alex.ua]

Young Golovkin beats all of them.

[apollo creed]

Young Golovkin beats all of them.

I think Golovkin would T/KO Martinez in 2012, UD Canelo in 2014 (although G would need to stop Canelo to get a decision ) but I don't know about Froch. I think Froch vs GGG @ 168 lbs in 2013 would be a close fight.

[gilgamesh]

Golovkin beat Canelo in the 2 fights they had (the 1st one undeniably, the 2nd one arguably). Just because the judges didn't score it correctly doesn't change that.

A better version of him against a lesser version of Canelo is a no brainer as to how it would go.

I think he would've beaten Martinez too.

Froch would've been a handful for him. That one would've been real interesting.

[apollo creed]

Golovkin beat Canelo in the 2 fights they had (the 1st one undeniably, the 2nd one arguably). Just because the judges didn't score it correctly doesn't change that.

A better version of him against a lesser version of Canelo is a no brainer as to how it would go.

I think he would've beaten Martinez too.

Froch would've been a handful for him. That one would've been real interesting.

There is no doubt that Golovkin won the first fight with Canelo. That draw it's in the same saga with the MD in the fight with FMJ where Canelo pretty much was outclassed.

As well I think that a younger Golovkin would beat Martinez and Canelo (and have better chance to stop him to get the win.

Froch vs Golovkin in 2013 would be a tough match. At 168 lbs it would be a 60-40 fight in favor of Froch. Froch was so damn tough, relentless and awkward.

[adislav123]

Golovkin beat Canelo in the 2 fights they had (the 1st one undeniably, the 2nd one arguably). Just because the judges didn't score it correctly doesn't change that.

A better version of him against a lesser version of Canelo is a no brainer as to how it would go.

I think he would've beaten Martinez too.

Froch would've been a handful for him. That one would've been real interesting.

There is no doubt that Golovkin won the first fight with Canelo. That draw it's in the same saga with the MD in the fight with FMJ where Canelo pretty much was outclassed.

As well I think that a younger Golovkin would beat Martinez and Canelo (and have better chance to stop him to get the win.

Froch vs Golovkin in 2013 would be a tough match. At 168 lbs it would be a 60-40 fight in favor of Froch. Froch was so damn tough, relentless and awkward.

haven't seen ggg in trouble ever, maybe i missed sumthin? always thunk he would've grinded him down back to back, cause sure as hell froch would've forced the immediate rematch.

as of canelo loosing back to back vs ggg. it can't be said often enough as everybody new to the sport sees the opposite on record.

first fight was clear, second one with ggg as defending champion too. no way canelo did enough to deservedly take those belts off ggg.

[apollo creed]

Golovkin beat Canelo in the 2 fights they had (the 1st one undeniably, the 2nd one arguably). Just because the judges didn't score it correctly doesn't change that.

A better version of him against a lesser version of Canelo is a no brainer as to how it would go.

I think he would've beaten Martinez too.

Froch would've been a handful for him. That one would've been real interesting.

There is no doubt that Golovkin won the first fight with Canelo. That draw it's in the same saga with the MD in the fight with FMJ where Canelo pretty much was outclassed.

As well I think that a younger Golovkin would beat Martinez and Canelo (and have better chance to stop him to get the win.

Froch vs Golovkin in 2013 would be a tough match. At 168 lbs it would be a 60-40 fight in favor of Froch. Froch was so damn tough, relentless and awkward.

haven't seen ggg in trouble ever, maybe i missed sumthin? always thunk he would've grinded him down back to back, cause sure as hell froch would've forced the immediate rematch.

as of canelo loosing back to back vs ggg. it can't be said often enough as everybody new to the sport sees the opposite on record.

first fight was clear, second one with ggg as defending champion too. no way canelo did enough to deservedly take those belts off ggg.

TBH Golovkin looked poor vs Chenko and he got hurt to the body. But people forget that he was 37 y/o fighter with lots of miles on the clock.

[apollo creed]

I wonder if there were some talks between GGG's team and Canelo's team to make a fight at a c/w back when Canelo was at 154 lbs? Also there were some good action fights for Golovkin at 168 lbs back in 2013-2014, like Froch or Groves in UK. I wonder if there were some talks and what were the results? Not enough number$ ?

[Enlightened-One]

The 2012 iteration of GGG beats Sergio Martinez. It won’t be competitive, despite the Argentine’s awkward elusive style.

I don’t like considering a fight between GGG and the past-his-prime 2013 version of Carl Froch, because only complete utter imbeciles would do that.

However, the 2011 168lbs version of Carl Froch beats GGG in a competitive match-up.

And the 2014 version of GGG loses badly at 155lbs against Canelo.

Put it this way, GGG was commanding $750K paydays during that timeframe, and he rejected a guaranteed opportunity to receive a career-high purse face the Mexican, due to his flat refusal to consider engaging in a 155lbs catchweight bout.

Let’s not forget that Golovkin received $15m for the first Canelo bout.

So there has to be a legitimate reason during 2014/5 for GGG rejecting a huge career-high purse to compete at 155lbs, especially considering his constant boasts about being capable of beating the world’s best fighters from 154lbs to 175lbs.

And I feel that he simply lied and wasn’t physically capable of making 155lbs. There's no other explanation for GGG ducking Canelo at 155lbs.

Let’s not forget that GGG was 165lbs during his amateur days, so there’s no evidence of him being capable of competing effectively at 155lbs.

And before anyone argues that "GGG doesn't believe in catch weights", they need to consider the fact he engaged in a 164lbs catchweight bout against Steve Rolls. Gennadiy and his team also said they'd only face Andre Ward at 164lbs.

That’s the reason why I feel a weight-drained 155lbs version of GGG loses rather badly to Canelo during 2014.

If Gennadiy genuinely believed he could beat Canelo at 155lbs during 2014/5, then he would have taken the fight, but he didn't!

[apollo creed]

2013 Froch was beating Kessler in rematch and a prime-young Groves. Actually Froch was stopping Groves in rematch even more convincingly in 2014. Froch was still game and a top-notch smw in 2013 with top wins. Only some completely delusional pudenda would think Froch wasn't a top-notch operator in 2013.

[Enlightened-One]

Froch was still game and a top-notch smw in 2013 with top wins. Only some completely delusional pudenda would think Froch wasn't a top-notch operator in 2013.

Froch was past-his-prime in 2013. And he competed in his final outing during May 2014.

The Brit retired, because he was past-his-prime. He'd engaged in his final contest when he was on the cusp of turning 37 years of age.

And he confirmed that his “joints and bones are aching” and “there's nothing motivating” him.

So I refuse to consider a fantasy fight between a past-his-prime iteration of an ageing fighter that was engaging in the final bout of his career, like Carl Froch, against the prime version of GGG.

And I assume you agree with my thoughts about a 155lbs fight between GGG and Canelo?