Saul Alvarez vs Manuel Charr

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Saul Alvarez vs Manuel Charr

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I know you guys always say that weight classes are there for a reason but Canelo has had a Pacquiao (08-10) type of momentum. He could aim to be the first former super welterweight to win a heavyweight title. The first mexican to win a heavyweight title. The first latin american born (if you don't count Luis Ortiz's interim title) to win a heavyweight title. Roy Jones was able to do it against #5 Ring Magazine ranked John Ruiz. Now Saul Alvarez is no Roy Jones but Manuel Charr is no John Ruiz and far from a top 15 heavyweight. Especially with over 3 years of inactivity.
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Re: Saul Alvarez vs Manuel Charr

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There you go! That's thinking outside the box! Why not! :TU: :clap: :yay: :OhYes:
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I’d watch it.
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Canelo would make Charr look foolish.

You can guarentee that his team have at least considered this....
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Re: Saul Alvarez vs Manuel Charr

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Canelo spars with heavies so it would be theoretically possible.
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Why Charr though ?
He hasn't fought in 3 years and why would that particular fight buy Canelo any juice ?
Not against this type of thing but perhaps the bar needs to be raised a little higher.
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Evander wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 21:45 Why Charr though ?
He hasn't fought in 3 years and why would that particular fight buy Canelo any juice ?
Not against this type of thing but perhaps the bar needs to be raised a little higher.
That is exactly why.
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oogiebe wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 22:07
Evander wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 21:45 Why Charr though ?
He hasn't fought in 3 years and why would that particular fight buy Canelo any juice ?
Not against this type of thing but perhaps the bar needs to be raised a little higher.
That is exactly why.
Can't see how that furthers his career.
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He should consider a one off against one of the Cruiserweight champions if he can get it.
The significance is Roy Jones Jr leaped over that weight class on route to Ruiz at Heavyweight, he revisited it at an older age but never fought there in his prime.
I'd use that angle if I was Canelo, can he do it though ?
That would buy Alvarez some serious respect were he to pull it off.
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anyone think canelo beats briedis?
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Makabu has the WBC Cruiserweight strap, 28-2, he's 33 years old from the Congo, give the guy a one off shot at the big time and spread the wealth a bit against Canelo.
A win for either opens up avenues for everyone, a Briedis unification fight automatically becomes bigger no matter who prevails.
It's a win win all round.
Someone just has to take the leap of faith and that will have to be Canelo.
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Re: Saul Alvarez vs Manuel Charr

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Evander wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 00:03
oogiebe wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 22:07
Evander wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 21:45 Why Charr though ?
He hasn't fought in 3 years and why would that particular fight buy Canelo any juice ?
Not against this type of thing but perhaps the bar needs to be raised a little higher.
That is exactly why.
Can't see how that furthers his career.
He would be the WBA Heavyweight champion if he won.
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How ?
Who would he fight right now ?
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Re: Saul Alvarez vs Manuel Charr

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Charr sucks enough for being smashed by a good little guy. I'd watch this.
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margaret thatcher wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 00:27 anyone think canelo beats briedis?
No.
I don't think he beats the elite @ LHW so defo not @ CW.
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skanksta wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 04:00
margaret thatcher wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 00:27 anyone think canelo beats briedis?
No.
I don't think he beats the elite @ LHW so defo not @ CW.
Perhaps you’re right, but during June 2019, people from this forum were saying Callum Smith was far too big and good for Canelo.
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ldlamb wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 01:49
Evander wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 00:03
oogiebe wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 22:07

That is exactly why.
Can't see how that furthers his career.
He would be the WBA Heavyweight champion if he won.
Joshua is the WBA heavyweight title holder :maybe:
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halfamill wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 19:21 I know you guys always say that weight classes are there for a reason but Canelo has had a Pacquiao (08-10) type of momentum. He could aim to be the first former super welterweight to win a heavyweight title. The first mexican to win a heavyweight title. The first latin american born (if you don't count Luis Ortiz's interim title) to win a heavyweight title. Roy Jones was able to do it against #5 Ring Magazine ranked John Ruiz. Now Saul Alvarez is no Roy Jones but Manuel Charr is no John Ruiz and far from a top 15 heavyweight. Especially with over 3 years of inactivity.
Andy Ruiz Jr is the first Mexican to win an HW title.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 04:52
skanksta wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 04:00
margaret thatcher wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 00:27 anyone think canelo beats briedis?
No.
I don't think he beats the elite @ LHW so defo not @ CW.
Perhaps you’re right, but during June 2019, people from this forum were saying Callum Smith was far too big and good for Canelo.
He can beat most LHWs - he’s proven that - but the best are surely too big/good or both.
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RJJ won a real world title at HW though.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 04:52
skanksta wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 04:00
margaret thatcher wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 00:27 anyone think canelo beats briedis?
No.
I don't think he beats the elite @ LHW so defo not @ CW.
Perhaps you’re right, but during June 2019, people from this forum were saying Callum Smith was far too big and good for Canelo.
:lol:
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Re: Saul Alvarez vs Manuel Charr

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 07:11 RJJ won a real world title at HW though.
How real? I stopped paying attention to straps long ago and Ruiz was obviously far more legit than Charr, but if we're going the 'real' route it was clearly Lennox.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 07:30
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 07:11 RJJ won a real world title at HW though.
How real? I stopped paying attention to straps long ago and Ruiz was obviously far more legit than Charr, but if we're going the 'real' route it was clearly Lennox.
I meant the WBA belt. It was the actual WBA belt. There was no Regular or Interim.

Kinda how Haye was a true WBA champion too.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 07:47
Onetimeonly wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 07:30
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 07:11 RJJ won a real world title at HW though.
How real? I stopped paying attention to straps long ago and Ruiz was obviously far more legit than Charr, but if we're going the 'real' route it was clearly Lennox.
I meant the WBA belt. It was the actual WBA belt. There was no Regular or Interim.

Kinda how Haye was a true WBA champion too.
Semantics, none of them are real.
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Re: Saul Alvarez vs Manuel Charr

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Canelo could potentially beat a john Ruiz level guy too, all it would mean is he’s a contender in the division.
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