Gennady Golovkin vs. Jaime Munguia - TBA

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Who wins?

Poll ended at 01 Mar 2023, 11:32

Golovkin - Decision
6
14%
Golovkin - T/KO
30
70%
DRAW
1
2%
Munguia - T/KO
2
5%
Munguia - Decision
4
9%
 
Total votes: 43

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oogiebe wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 11:49
apollo creed wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 11:46
Counter-puncher wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 10:40

he's fvcking slavering over it. He's written most of the posts already and saved them so he an just C&P onto the forum

lucky us.....
True. He's fingering his butthole just when he's thinking about that.lol
:lol: His latest move is C&P'ing his post again and again to get attention when he's being ignored. Poor lad is imploding at this very moment.
If he only knew how little anybody reads his long ass posts where he's breaking his neck trying to blow himself he'd realize he really needs to get a life.

Must especially stick in his craw that he only further helped mine and Apollo's argument while trying to boost his own :lol:
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gilgamesh wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 11:12
Enlightened-One wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 11:10
gilgamesh wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 11:09

11 opponents. 12 fights. He fought Canelo twice.
He didn't beat Canelo.
He did actually. Not officially, but I saw the fights, and he won 'em both. The 1st one clear. The 2nd one was at least debatable.

Don't think we were discussing Top 10 opponents he'd beat anyway, just ones he'd faced.

When I know what I saw, it doesn't really matter to me what the official judges said. I trust my own eyes and knowledge of the sport more than obviously corruptible judges. Just like I'll die knowing Jose Luis Castillo beat Floyd Mayweather Jr. Just like I'll die knowing Tyson Cave beat Oscar Escandon. Just like I'll die knowing Emanuel Augustus beat Courtney Burton in their first fight.

My eyes saw the truth. My brain understands it. It's been proven time and time again that judges can easily be corrupted and often are.
true :TU:
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oogiebe wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 11:49
apollo creed wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 11:46
Counter-puncher wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 10:40

he's fvcking slavering over it. He's written most of the posts already and saved them so he an just C&P onto the forum

lucky us.....
True. He's fingering his butthole just when he's thinking about that.lol
:lol: His latest move is C&P'ing his post again and again to get attention when he's being ignored. Poor lad is imploding at this very moment.
lol He's on damage control mode digging for facts on internet. His fingers must be extremely busy. :OhYes:
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apollo creed wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 12:26
oogiebe wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 11:49
apollo creed wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 11:46

True. He's fingering his butthole just when he's thinking about that.lol
:lol: His latest move is C&P'ing his post again and again to get attention when he's being ignored. Poor lad is imploding at this very moment.
lol He's on damage control mode digging for facts on internet. His fingers must be extremely busy. :OhYes:
I'd say he's working on his forward plow pose (there's an SNL reference there) :lol:
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gilgamesh wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 12:29
apollo creed wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 12:26
oogiebe wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 11:49
:lol: His latest move is C&P'ing his post again and again to get attention when he's being ignored. Poor lad is imploding at this very moment.
lol He's on damage control mode digging for facts on internet. His fingers must be extremely busy. :OhYes:
I'd say he's working on his forward plow pose (there's an SNL reference there) :lol:
:lol:

EO must be a master of Halasana. I wonder if he can write his long posts being in Halasana pose? :o
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gilgamesh wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 11:25
adislav123 wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 11:23 GOLOVKIN BEAT CANELO TWICE.


BACK TO BACK.

GOT FUCKED OVER BOTH TIMES ON THE SORECARDS.

STILL UNDEFEATED IN THE RING.
I'll give it to critics that the 2nd fight is at least debatable.

1st fight was extremely clear.
ggg as defending champ loosing canelo 2 isn't debatable.

derev was his closest fight.


115-112 ggg, 114-113 either way or a draw.

that's debatable scorecards.

but he had derev on his ass in the first.
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gilgamesh wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 10:08
margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Dec 2020, 22:45 Even at 154 Munguia was weighing in nearly 180 on fight nights, he's no smaller than ggg for sure :TU:
Yep Golovkin was always a smallish Middleweight too. A natural for the weight. That's why he's competed there his whole career. It's where he belongs.
He spent several years boasting about his capability to defeat all the world-rated elite level fighters campaigning from 154lbs to 175lbs.

He competed at 165lbs as an amateur.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 13:41
gilgamesh wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 10:08
margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Dec 2020, 22:45 Even at 154 Munguia was weighing in nearly 180 on fight nights, he's no smaller than ggg for sure :TU:
Yep Golovkin was always a smallish Middleweight too. A natural for the weight. That's why he's competed there his whole career. It's where he belongs.
He spent several years boasting about his capability to defeat all the world-rated elite level fighters campaigning from 154lbs to 175lbs.

He competed at 165lbs as an amateur.
Are you in plow pose now? :o


The Ring Magazine's Annual Ratings:

@middleweight division
Grzegorz Proksa - 2012 No. 10 by Ring Magazine
Curtis Stevens - 2013 No. 10 by Ring Magazine
Matthew Macklin - 2013 No. 6 by Ring Magazine
Daniel Geale - 2014 No. 4 by Ring Magazine
David Lemieux - 2015 No. 4 by Ring Magazine
Daniel Jacobs - 2017 No. 2 by Ring Magazine
Saul Alvarez - 2017 Champion by Ring Magazine
Saul Alvarez - 2018 Champion by Ring Magazine
Sergiy Derevyanchenko - 2019 No. 4 by Ring Magazine
Kamil Szeremeta - 2020 No. 6 by Ring Magazine

Deal with it! :wave:
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Enlightened-One wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 13:41
gilgamesh wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 10:08
margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Dec 2020, 22:45 Even at 154 Munguia was weighing in nearly 180 on fight nights, he's no smaller than ggg for sure :TU:
Yep Golovkin was always a smallish Middleweight too. A natural for the weight. That's why he's competed there his whole career. It's where he belongs.
He spent several years boasting about his capability to defeat all the world-rated elite level fighters campaigning from 154lbs to 175lbs.

He competed at 165lbs as an amateur.
He was trying to get the biggest money fights possible, and saying he'd be willing to change weight class if he had to to get them. Luckily for him the big money fight came to his weight class, unfortunately the judges didn't score it fairly, but at least he got his richly deserved payday.

Can't help but notice you completely change your course of how you're attacking Golovkin now.

What's your beef with the guy? Did he f*ck your Mom or something? I would say girlfriend, but I know you don't have one of those.
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apollo creed wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 13:04
gilgamesh wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 12:29
apollo creed wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 12:26

lol He's on damage control mode digging for facts on internet. His fingers must be extremely busy. :OhYes:
I'd say he's working on his forward plow pose (there's an SNL reference there) :lol:
:lol:

EO must be a master of Halasana. I wonder if he can write his long posts being in Halasana pose? :o
Oh, he's a poser alright! :OhYes:
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gilgamesh wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 13:48
Enlightened-One wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 13:41
gilgamesh wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 10:08

Yep Golovkin was always a smallish Middleweight too. A natural for the weight. That's why he's competed there his whole career. It's where he belongs.
He spent several years boasting about his capability to defeat all the world-rated elite level fighters campaigning from 154lbs to 175lbs.

He competed at 165lbs as an amateur.
He was trying to get the biggest money fights possible, and saying he'd be willing to change weight class if he had to to get them. Luckily for him the big money fight came to his weight class, unfortunately the judges didn't score it fairly, but at least he got his richly deserved payday.

Can't help but notice you completely change your course of how you're attacking Golovkin now.

What's your beef with the guy? Did he f*ck your Mom or something? I would say girlfriend, but I know you don't have one of those.
EO doesn't need a girl when he's in plow pose. He's doing all the HARD work by himself.

I wonder if a kazakh man did something 'inappropriate' to eo? He's pretty rattled on GGG's threads.
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Canelo was a prime 27 y/o fighter and Golovkin was a past-prime 35 y/o fighter at that time and Canelo could not even defeat G in their first fight.
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I actually am one of the few Boxing fans who doesn't get mad about PED's. I think they should just be straight up allowed. If you wanna do 'em, do 'em.

Your body will pay the price in the long run. So if it's worth it to you to be stronger in your 20's, and potentially die of Liver or Kidney failure in your 40's or 50's, hey...that's on you.
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gilgamesh wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 14:21 I actually am one of the few Boxing fans who doesn't get mad about PED's. I think they should just be straight up allowed. If you wanna do 'em, do 'em.

Your body will pay the price in the long run. So if it's worth it to you to be stronger in your 20's, and potentially die of Liver or Kidney failure in your 40's or 50's, hey...that's on you.

The point I'm trying to make is more about the double standards applied to certain fighters by some people. If Golovkin was tested positive for clenbuterol (same amount as Canelo) G's image would've been 'slaughtered' on internet.

Also why people don't take in consideration that Golovkin was 35 y/o when he fought a 27 y/o Canelo? Golovkin was old even back then and still was able to defend his mw titles.
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apollo creed wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 14:50
gilgamesh wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 14:21 I actually am one of the few Boxing fans who doesn't get mad about PED's. I think they should just be straight up allowed. If you wanna do 'em, do 'em.

Your body will pay the price in the long run. So if it's worth it to you to be stronger in your 20's, and potentially die of Liver or Kidney failure in your 40's or 50's, hey...that's on you.

The point I'm trying to make is more about the double standards applied to certain fighters by some people. If Golovkin was tested positive for clenbuterol (same amount as Canelo) G's image would've been 'slaughtered' on internet.

Also why people don't take in consideration that Golovkin was 35 y/o when he fought a 27 y/o Canelo? Golovkin was old even back then and still was able to defend his mw titles.
The reaction on the internet would've been the same. Nobody REALLY cares about PED's. They just get mad when a fight gets cancelled about it. Nobody really feels all that strongly about it.

That's why it blows over so quickly. It's just a thing for people to pretend to be mad about. They make excuses when it's a fighter they like. They get mad when it's a fighter they don't like.

I just don't care either way, and don't change my stance regardless.
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gilgamesh wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 11:12
He did actually. Not officially, but I saw the fights, and he won 'em both. The 1st one clear. The 2nd one was at least debatable.
You think GGG won the rematch, how did you get to that ?
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Jul 2019, 05:24 With his arch-rival Canelo Alvarez likely to fight Sergey Kovalev next (but almost certainly not in September as had been previously suggested; Kovalev reportedly all set to defend against Anthony Yarde in Russia on August 24), former world middleweight king Gennady Golovkin is looking at other options for his next outing..

And, according to a tweet from boxing writer Mike Coppinger, GGG, and DAZN, might have found a suitable dance partner in the form of Mexican warrior Jaime Munguia. According to “sources,” a Golovkin-Munguia fight could happen over Mexican Independence Day weekend, if Canelo does not fight then (and if Canelo is waiting for Kovalev and Kovalev only, that 175 pound fight is highly unlikely for September).

So it seems it’s all down to Canelo, what he wants to do next. DAZN want a big fight to take place over the big Mexican holiday and Munguia, a classic Mexican warrior, against the second-biggest star in the middleweight division, would do nicely. Munguia and GGG were somewhat close to fighting one another back when GGG-Canelo II was postponed due to you know what. Needing a late sub, GGG and his team looked at Munguia, only for the Nevada State Athletic Commission to say no to the match-up, declaring how 22 year old Munguia lacked experience.
At this point I really the fight.
Munguia was tested last time out against Johnson and had to prove himself, at times he was explosive and very exciting to watch.
He looks like he can carry much more weight and at some point will have to move up, the style match up with GGG looks sure to make a good fight.
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Evander wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 15:12
gilgamesh wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 11:12
He did actually. Not officially, but I saw the fights, and he won 'em both. The 1st one clear. The 2nd one was at least debatable.
You think GGG won the rematch, how did you get to that ?
By watching it, and scoring it round by round.
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gilgamesh wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 15:21
Evander wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 15:12
gilgamesh wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 11:12
He did actually. Not officially, but I saw the fights, and he won 'em both. The 1st one clear. The 2nd one was at least debatable.
You think GGG won the rematch, how did you get to that ?
By watching it, and scoring it round by round.
What was your score card ?
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Evander wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 15:22
gilgamesh wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 15:21
Evander wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 15:12

You think GGG won the rematch, how did you get to that ?
By watching it, and scoring it round by round.
What was your score card ?
I had it 115-113 Golovkin. Don't remember which rounds I had to who. I only watched it once.
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Evander wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 15:19
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Jul 2019, 05:24 With his arch-rival Canelo Alvarez likely to fight Sergey Kovalev next (but almost certainly not in September as had been previously suggested; Kovalev reportedly all set to defend against Anthony Yarde in Russia on August 24), former world middleweight king Gennady Golovkin is looking at other options for his next outing..

And, according to a tweet from boxing writer Mike Coppinger, GGG, and DAZN, might have found a suitable dance partner in the form of Mexican warrior Jaime Munguia. According to “sources,” a Golovkin-Munguia fight could happen over Mexican Independence Day weekend, if Canelo does not fight then (and if Canelo is waiting for Kovalev and Kovalev only, that 175 pound fight is highly unlikely for September).

So it seems it’s all down to Canelo, what he wants to do next. DAZN want a big fight to take place over the big Mexican holiday and Munguia, a classic Mexican warrior, against the second-biggest star in the middleweight division, would do nicely. Munguia and GGG were somewhat close to fighting one another back when GGG-Canelo II was postponed due to you know what. Needing a late sub, GGG and his team looked at Munguia, only for the Nevada State Athletic Commission to say no to the match-up, declaring how 22 year old Munguia lacked experience.
At this point I really the fight.
Munguia was tested last time out against Johnson and had to prove himself, at times he was explosive and very exciting to watch.
He looks like he can carry much more weight and at some point will have to move up, the style match up with GGG looks sure to make a good fight.
Golovkin vs Munguia would be a good action fight. :TU:
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gilgamesh wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 14:55
apollo creed wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 14:50
gilgamesh wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 14:21 I actually am one of the few Boxing fans who doesn't get mad about PED's. I think they should just be straight up allowed. If you wanna do 'em, do 'em.

Your body will pay the price in the long run. So if it's worth it to you to be stronger in your 20's, and potentially die of Liver or Kidney failure in your 40's or 50's, hey...that's on you.

The point I'm trying to make is more about the double standards applied to certain fighters by some people. If Golovkin was tested positive for clenbuterol (same amount as Canelo) G's image would've been 'slaughtered' on internet.

Also why people don't take in consideration that Golovkin was 35 y/o when he fought a 27 y/o Canelo? Golovkin was old even back then and still was able to defend his mw titles.
The reaction on the internet would've been the same. Nobody REALLY cares about PED's. They just get mad when a fight gets cancelled about it. Nobody really feels all that strongly about it.

That's why it blows over so quickly. It's just a thing for people to pretend to be mad about. They make excuses when it's a fighter they like. They get mad when it's a fighter they don't like.

I just don't care either way, and don't change my stance regardless.
Well, pretty much yes.

Anyway, the fact that a 35 y/o Golovkin could defend his titles against a 27 y/o Canelo showed how good Golovkin was. Tacitly and strategically they waited for Golovkin to get older. But it is what it is.
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gilgamesh wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 15:24
Evander wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 15:22
gilgamesh wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 15:21

By watching it, and scoring it round by round.
What was your score card ?
I had it 115-113 Golovkin. Don't remember which rounds I had to who. I only watched it once.
The power of the media is strong and especially on fight night, people get carried away I know I have.
The rematch should have had GGG winning easily merely based off of how much his jab was landing, it was a no brainer really.
Just look at the opening 4 rounds which clearly went to GGG, yet the judges managed to split them 50/50.
It goes to show you how valuable big ticket fighters are to the economy and just how far they'll go to protect them, they don't hide it very well and it's become almost theatrical in it's nature nowadays.
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Evander wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 16:36
gilgamesh wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 15:24
Evander wrote: 30 Dec 2020, 15:22
What was your score card ?
I had it 115-113 Golovkin. Don't remember which rounds I had to who. I only watched it once.
The power of the media is strong and especially on fight night, people get carried away I know I have.
The rematch should have had GGG winning easily merely based off of how much his jab was landing, it was a no brainer really.
Just look at the opening 4 rounds which clearly went to GGG, yet the judges managed to split them 50/50.
It goes to show you how valuable big ticket fighters are to the economy and just how far they'll go to protect them, they don't hide it very well and it's become almost theatrical in it's nature nowadays.
I'd like to see it again. It was a close fight, and a good fight.
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"We are doing well, I think we have a good chance of having this fight, right now we are just talking, " said Beltrán to ESPN Deportes.
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