Sure seems you think FMJ beats Connor in a kickboxing match. Surely you don't think Connor is without leg striking skills.
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i mean in a fight , a straightener not kick boxing rules, i would back a boxer to beat a kick boxer, and i meant look at the ufc conor mc is more or less a boxer and is number 1 ,gilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:24I hope you mean at Boxing.
If you mean at Kickboxing. That's just kooky talk.
There have been Boxers that have found success crossing over into Kickboxing, and there have been Kickboxers who found success crossing over into Boxing, but usually their success in the sport that's not their best isn't nearly the same. In fact always.
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you dont get what i am saying , conor mc is more or less number 1 in an all in fighting sport , and conor is really a stand up fighter left hand , he hasnt faced a kick boxer who has wiped the floor with him, so what iam saying is conor is a boxer and no kick boxer has beat him
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A Street fight?brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:35i mean in a fight , a straightener not kick boxing rules, i would back a boxer to beat a kick boxer, and i meant look at the ufc conor mc is more or less a boxer and is number 1 ,gilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:24I hope you mean at Boxing.
If you mean at Kickboxing. That's just kooky talk.
There have been Boxers that have found success crossing over into Kickboxing, and there have been Kickboxers who found success crossing over into Boxing, but usually their success in the sport that's not their best isn't nearly the same. In fact always.
If they're both Top guys in their respective sport I'd favor the Kickboxer to win 80% of the time. The Boxer could always land that big punch first so you can't rule it out, but the Kickboxer has more tools at his disposal to do major damage.
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I get what you're saying, I just don't buy into your triangulation. I'd take a kickboxer over a boxer any day.brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:39you dont get what i am saying , conor mc is more or less number 1 in an all in fighting sport , and conor is really a stand up fighter left hand , he hasnt faced a kick boxer who has wiped the floor with him, so what iam saying is conor is a boxer and no kick boxer has beat him
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He hasn't really fought an Elite Kickboxer.brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:39you dont get what i am saying , conor mc is more or less number 1 in an all in fighting sport , and conor is really a stand up fighter left hand , he hasnt faced a kick boxer who has wiped the floor with him, so what iam saying is conor is a boxer and no kick boxer has beat him
If he fought Adesanya he'd get his clock cleaned.
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he's not number 1 is he?brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:35i mean in a fight , a straightener not kick boxing rules, i would back a boxer to beat a kick boxer, and i meant look at the ufc conor mc is more or less a boxer and is number 1 ,gilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:24I hope you mean at Boxing.
If you mean at Kickboxing. That's just kooky talk.
There have been Boxers that have found success crossing over into Kickboxing, and there have been Kickboxers who found success crossing over into Boxing, but usually their success in the sport that's not their best isn't nearly the same. In fact always.
and he knows how to block kicks, knees, etc...that makes a big difference. has been training in that for years and years, boxers havent
a pure boxer has absolutely no background in dealing with getting kicked, kneed, elbowed. the clinch game is totally different too vs a kickboxer.....they can batter the f@ck out of you there as well, even if you've locked both their arms
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why not though, the money is there why arent kick boxers theregilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:47He hasn't really fought an Elite Kickboxer.brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:39you dont get what i am saying , conor mc is more or less number 1 in an all in fighting sport , and conor is really a stand up fighter left hand , he hasnt faced a kick boxer who has wiped the floor with him, so what iam saying is conor is a boxer and no kick boxer has beat him
If he fought Adesanya he'd get his clock cleaned.
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imagine floyd trying to shoulder roll vs a guy who is just gonna kick his legs out or push kick him halfway across the ring
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but you see how kick boxers fight , they cant throw a punch, you can see when there throwing a kick you move out of strike range or pivet there screwd there following through no matter what, nah boxer beats kick boxer any daygilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:47He hasn't really fought an Elite Kickboxer.brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:39you dont get what i am saying , conor mc is more or less number 1 in an all in fighting sport , and conor is really a stand up fighter left hand , he hasnt faced a kick boxer who has wiped the floor with him, so what iam saying is conor is a boxer and no kick boxer has beat him
If he fought Adesanya he'd get his clock cleaned.
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It's a different sport. An Elite Kickboxer doesn't just come into the UFC, and immediately get a shot at Conor McGregor. If they did I'm sure quite a few of them would've taken a crack at it by now.brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:49why not though, the money is there why arent kick boxers theregilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:47He hasn't really fought an Elite Kickboxer.brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:39
you dont get what i am saying , conor mc is more or less number 1 in an all in fighting sport , and conor is really a stand up fighter left hand , he hasnt faced a kick boxer who has wiped the floor with him, so what iam saying is conor is a boxer and no kick boxer has beat him
If he fought Adesanya he'd get his clock cleaned.
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much easier to get out of the way of an arm than a leg
if a good kickboxer was committed to leg kicking a boxer, what is the boxer gonna do? a shoulder roll, ducking ,etc aint gonna do sh!t, and a leg can reach you from much longer than a punch can
if a good kickboxer was committed to leg kicking a boxer, what is the boxer gonna do? a shoulder roll, ducking ,etc aint gonna do sh!t, and a leg can reach you from much longer than a punch can
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In the clinches a boxer can't do much. In the clinches a Kickboxer can knee or elbow the f*ck out of you (Just knee if it's European rules)brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:51but you see how kick boxers fight , they cant throw a punch, you can see when there throwing a kick you move out of strike range or pivet there screwd there following through no matter what, nah boxer beats kick boxer any daygilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:47He hasn't really fought an Elite Kickboxer.brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:39
you dont get what i am saying , conor mc is more or less number 1 in an all in fighting sport , and conor is really a stand up fighter left hand , he hasnt faced a kick boxer who has wiped the floor with him, so what iam saying is conor is a boxer and no kick boxer has beat him
If he fought Adesanya he'd get his clock cleaned.
A Boxer wouldn't even get into range to throw his best punches easily. He'd be eating leg kicks all the way in, and losing his balance.
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LOL! You stay outside of kicking distance you are further outside punching distance. Silly argument here. Imagine Bill Superfoot Wallace vs FMJ.
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exactly, kickboxers simply have far more tools to work with, it's just boxer denial to say otherwise
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more or less number 1 and i think keybeeb has left so, you ever watch a kick boxer fight, go on stick triple g or nigle benn while there lining up there kick, callum smith beat that dutch kick boxer in the boxing super seiresmargaret thatcher wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:48he's not number 1 is he?brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:35i mean in a fight , a straightener not kick boxing rules, i would back a boxer to beat a kick boxer, and i meant look at the ufc conor mc is more or less a boxer and is number 1 ,gilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:24
I hope you mean at Boxing.
If you mean at Kickboxing. That's just kooky talk.
There have been Boxers that have found success crossing over into Kickboxing, and there have been Kickboxers who found success crossing over into Boxing, but usually their success in the sport that's not their best isn't nearly the same. In fact always.
and he knows how to block kicks, knees, etc...that makes a big difference. has been training in that for years and years, boxers havent
a pure boxer has absolutely no background in dealing with getting kicked, kneed, elbowed. the clinch game is totally different too vs a kickboxer.....they can batter the f@ck out of you there as well, even if you've locked both their arms
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Or kick him at his sides where you're gonna kick his arms. Make his arms sore as f*ck, you're gonna take an awful lot of steam off of any punches.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:52 much easier to get out of the way of an arm than a leg
if a good kickboxer was committed to leg kicking a boxer, what is the boxer gonna do? a shoulder roll, ducking ,etc aint gonna do sh!t, and a leg can reach you from much longer than a punch can
You could even potentially break their arms.
It's been done before.
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lol callum beat that guy in a boxing match
the kicks arent telegraphed from miles out, good kickboxers can just wip them out quickly. do you even watch any kickboxing bruh
the kicks arent telegraphed from miles out, good kickboxers can just wip them out quickly. do you even watch any kickboxing bruh
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Hell I'll do you one better. Raymond Daniels. I don't think he's a World Champion Kickboxer, but he's damn good, and he's a Middleweight, he'd probably f*ck up most Heavyweight Boxers if you put 'em in there with him.
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In a Boxing match, and he only managed to win by Decision. Make it a Kickboxing match and Callum gets knocked out.brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:54more or less number 1 and i think keybeeb has left so, you ever watch a kick boxer fight, go on stick triple g or nigle benn while there lining up there kick, callum smith beat that dutch kick boxer in the boxing super seiresmargaret thatcher wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:48he's not number 1 is he?
and he knows how to block kicks, knees, etc...that makes a big difference. has been training in that for years and years, boxers havent
a pure boxer has absolutely no background in dealing with getting kicked, kneed, elbowed. the clinch game is totally different too vs a kickboxer.....they can batter the f@ck out of you there as well, even if you've locked both their arms
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thats different though , i would not be expexcting a boxer to be fighting a kick boxers game, i think people are getting me miss unterstood , i dont mean a boxer to fight like a kickboxer as in holding and shin kicking ,elbows brutal leg kicks, i mean in and outgilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:53In the clinches a boxer can't do much. In the clinches a Kickboxer can knee or elbow the f*ck out of you (Just knee if it's European rules)
A Boxer wouldn't even get into range to throw his best punches easily. He'd be eating leg kicks all the way in, and losing his balance.
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He'd have no choice but to fight the kickboxers game.brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:58thats different though , i would not be expexcting a boxer to be fighting a kick boxers game, i think people are getting me miss unterstood , i dont mean a boxer to fight like a kickboxer as in holding and shin kicking ,elbows brutal leg kicks, i mean in and outgilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:53In the clinches a boxer can't do much. In the clinches a Kickboxer can knee or elbow the f*ck out of you (Just knee if it's European rules)
A Boxer wouldn't even get into range to throw his best punches easily. He'd be eating leg kicks all the way in, and losing his balance.
You think a boxer is gonna jab his way in without eating a kick first? Legs are WAY longer than arms bro. You ever taken a good look at the human body?
Kickboxers ain't slow with them kicks either homes.
If the Boxer keeps running and avoiding, the Kickboxer can corner him, grab him and proceed to knee the f*ck out of him.
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i have indeed . and i enjoy kicking in a fight too, but iam sorry a boxer is a better all round fighter than a kick boxer, there is no way a kick boxer will walk down mayweather , there movment aint great as there always looking to throw a kick which means what ,means the other leg has to be on the groundmargaret thatcher wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:56 lol callum beat that guy in a boxing match![]()
the kicks arent telegraphed from miles out, good kickboxers can just wip them out quickly. do you even watch any kickboxing bruh
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how many people grabbed up mayweather , also they move about like flemingosgilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 23:03He'd have no choice but to fight the kickboxers game.brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:58thats different though , i would not be expexcting a boxer to be fighting a kick boxers game, i think people are getting me miss unterstood , i dont mean a boxer to fight like a kickboxer as in holding and shin kicking ,elbows brutal leg kicks, i mean in and outgilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 22:53
In the clinches a boxer can't do much. In the clinches a Kickboxer can knee or elbow the f*ck out of you (Just knee if it's European rules)
A Boxer wouldn't even get into range to throw his best punches easily. He'd be eating leg kicks all the way in, and losing his balance.
You think a boxer is gonna jab his way in without eating a kick first? Legs are WAY longer than arms bro. You ever taken a good look at the human body?![]()
Kickboxers ain't slow with them kicks either homes.
If the Boxer keeps running and avoiding, the Kickboxer can corner him, grab him and proceed to knee the f*ck out of him.
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I'm done with you on this bro. You've clearly never watched Kickboxing. You're coming across as painfully ignorant in this discussion, and I'll spare you from embarrassing yourself any further.brilo33 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 23:08how many people grabbed up mayweather , also they move about like flemingosgilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Dec 2020, 23:03He'd have no choice but to fight the kickboxers game.
You think a boxer is gonna jab his way in without eating a kick first? Legs are WAY longer than arms bro. You ever taken a good look at the human body?![]()
Kickboxers ain't slow with them kicks either homes.
If the Boxer keeps running and avoiding, the Kickboxer can corner him, grab him and proceed to knee the f*ck out of him.