Middleweights : Gennady Golovkin vs. Rubin Carter

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Middleweights : Gennady Golovkin vs. Rubin Carter

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IMO Golovkin by TKO 10

Your picks,please.
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Re: Middleweights : Gennady Golovkin vs. Rubin Carter

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Golovkin would methodically outclass and severely batter Carter in about 10 rounds.
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Re: Middleweights : Gennady Golovkin vs. Rubin Carter

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Carter, by easy knockout, if they weigh in at noon on fight day. Under modern weigh-in rules, it's a much tougher fight but Carter wins a close decision.
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Re: Middleweights : Gennady Golovkin vs. Rubin Carter

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ggg wins
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Golovkin wins a pretty lopsided bout. I think he stops him later on in the fight.
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Re: Middleweights : Gennady Golovkin vs. Rubin Carter

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goose 5 wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 01:06 Carter, by easy knockout, if they weigh in at noon on fight day. Under modern weigh-in rules, it's a much tougher fight but Carter wins a close decision.
Carter by easy KO?

Based on what? How good he was in the movie?
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It's an easy knockout for Carter if they weigh-in at noon on fight day because GGG won't be rehydrated. Under those weigh-in rules, GGG would be dead at the weight.
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goose 5 wrote: 28 Dec 2020, 14:19 It's an easy knockout for Carter if they weigh-in at noon on fight day because GGG won't be rehydrated. Under those weigh-in rules, GGG would be dead at the weight.
GGG is a thin Middleweight even by today's standards. He'd dominate Carter in any era.
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Carter would give him a fight, mark him up, but defo see GGG winning probably by late stoppage
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Re: Middleweights : Gennady Golovkin vs. Rubin Carter

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GGG gets in the ring at 170 or 171-he wouldn't be close to that with a noon weigh-in on fight day. Under today's weigh-in rules, Carter would be a welterweight.
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goose 5 wrote: 29 Dec 2020, 14:11 GGG gets in the ring at 170 or 171-he wouldn't be close to that with a noon weigh-in on fight day. Under today's weigh-in rules, Carter would be a welterweight.
If it were same day weigh ins he'd just make adjustments. This isn't complicated stuff.
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Re: Middleweights : Gennady Golovkin vs. Rubin Carter

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We'll have to disagree; thanks for sharing your opinion.
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Close fight, I don't think Carter was ever knocked out and he was much better than Jacobs. I'll side with ggg by Dec, but nothing close to easy.
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GGG.
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Not sure why this gets a lot of attention. GGG wins this and easily. In this case, we can liken Carter to one of the Paul Brothers....he's in this fight for his fame and historical outrageous behavior, not his skill level.

I'm not saying Carter was lacking overall....but he's not in the all time elite catagory, and GGG honestly is.
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BoxBuzz wrote: 06 Jan 2021, 13:05 Not sure why this gets a lot of attention. GGG wins this and easily. In this case, we can liken Carter to one of the Paul Brothers....he's in this fight for his fame and historical outrageous behavior, not his skill level.

I'm not saying Carter was lacking overall....but he's not in the all time elite catagory, and GGG honestly is.
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emallini wrote: 06 Jan 2021, 13:30
BoxBuzz wrote: 06 Jan 2021, 13:05 Not sure why this gets a lot of attention. GGG wins this and easily. In this case, we can liken Carter to one of the Paul Brothers....he's in this fight for his fame and historical outrageous behavior, not his skill level.

I'm not saying Carter was lacking overall....but he's not in the all time elite catagory, and GGG honestly is.
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Now now...it's just one individual's opinion......you are safe! No one is imposing on you! I don't want to get you hyperventilating. In fact you can speak your piece......and I will take note.
And if you feel Carter was one of the greats, I will not speak disparagingly against any religious figure in response.. I will simply listen, and ponder with due respect.
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BoxBuzz wrote: 07 Jan 2021, 01:32
emallini wrote: 06 Jan 2021, 13:30
BoxBuzz wrote: 06 Jan 2021, 13:05 Not sure why this gets a lot of attention. GGG wins this and easily. In this case, we can liken Carter to one of the Paul Brothers....he's in this fight for his fame and historical outrageous behavior, not his skill level.

I'm not saying Carter was lacking overall....but he's not in the all time elite catagory, and GGG honestly is.
Jesus fornicating christ
Now now...it's just one individual's opinion......you are safe! No one is imposing on you! I don't want to get you hyperventilating. In fact you can speak your piece......and I will take note.
And if you feel Carter was one of the greats, I will not speak disparagingly against any religious figure in response.. I will simply listen, and ponder with due respect.
Your opinion is ridiculous. Just because he was not elite and not one of the greats, does not mean he should be compared to YOUTUBERS.
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emallini wrote: 07 Jan 2021, 07:40
BoxBuzz wrote: 07 Jan 2021, 01:32
emallini wrote: 06 Jan 2021, 13:30
Jesus fornicating christ
Now now...it's just one individual's opinion......you are safe! No one is imposing on you! I don't want to get you hyperventilating. In fact you can speak your piece......and I will take note.
And if you feel Carter was one of the greats, I will not speak disparagingly against any religious figure in response.. I will simply listen, and ponder with due respect.
Your opinion is ridiculous. Just because he was not elite and not one of the greats, does not mean he should be compared to YOUTUBERS.

Hey buddy, don't sell ridiculous short. It has it's place in the matrix. However.....I don't think these two would make a genuinely competitive bout. Mostly because of the ridiculous difference in skill level. And.....my greater point, is that they are being hypothetically matched for Carter's iconic reputation. .... So.....I hope we can still be friends, despite my ridiculazations. And my rather bombastical assertions.
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BoxBuzz wrote: 09 Jan 2021, 14:10
emallini wrote: 07 Jan 2021, 07:40
BoxBuzz wrote: 07 Jan 2021, 01:32

Now now...it's just one individual's opinion......you are safe! No one is imposing on you! I don't want to get you hyperventilating. In fact you can speak your piece......and I will take note.
And if you feel Carter was one of the greats, I will not speak disparagingly against any religious figure in response.. I will simply listen, and ponder with due respect.
Your opinion is ridiculous. Just because he was not elite and not one of the greats, does not mean he should be compared to YOUTUBERS.

Hey buddy, don't sell ridiculous short. It has it's place in the matrix. However.....I don't think these two would make a genuinely competitive bout. Mostly because of the ridiculous difference in skill level. And.....my greater point, is that they are being hypothetically matched for Carter's iconic reputation. .... So.....I hope we can still be friends, despite my ridiculazations. And my rather bombastical assertions.
His reputation seems to be based more on the movie about him than on his actual in-ring accomplishments.

If it were based on his actual fights he'd be properly dismissed as not much of a threat here.
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gilgamesh wrote: 09 Jan 2021, 14:12
BoxBuzz wrote: 09 Jan 2021, 14:10
emallini wrote: 07 Jan 2021, 07:40

Your opinion is ridiculous. Just because he was not elite and not one of the greats, does not mean he should be compared to YOUTUBERS.

Hey buddy, don't sell ridiculous short. It has it's place in the matrix. However.....I don't think these two would make a genuinely competitive bout. Mostly because of the ridiculous difference in skill level. And.....my greater point, is that they are being hypothetically matched for Carter's iconic reputation. .... So.....I hope we can still be friends, despite my ridiculazations. And my rather bombastical assertions.
His reputation seems to be based more on the movie about him than on his actual in-ring accomplishments.

If it were based on his actual fights he'd be properly dismissed as not much of a threat here.
His drama was important though. It taught many people many things. About justice, and fame, and the pursuit of facts in behalf of those who are faced with unfair judgmental retribution. We may never know the truth about that case, but we do know that it "Upped the level of quality review" for those in his position. Nothing like a bit of evolving to soothe the soul. Too bad it happens so painfully, and slow.
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gilgamesh wrote: 09 Jan 2021, 14:12
BoxBuzz wrote: 09 Jan 2021, 14:10
emallini wrote: 07 Jan 2021, 07:40

Your opinion is ridiculous. Just because he was not elite and not one of the greats, does not mean he should be compared to YOUTUBERS.

Hey buddy, don't sell ridiculous short. It has it's place in the matrix. However.....I don't think these two would make a genuinely competitive bout. Mostly because of the ridiculous difference in skill level. And.....my greater point, is that they are being hypothetically matched for Carter's iconic reputation. .... So.....I hope we can still be friends, despite my ridiculazations. And my rather bombastical assertions.
His reputation seems to be based more on the movie about him than on his actual in-ring accomplishments.

If it were based on his actual fights he'd be properly dismissed as not much of a threat here.
How so? He was clearly more accomplished than Jacobs.
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BoxBuzz wrote: 09 Jan 2021, 14:10
emallini wrote: 07 Jan 2021, 07:40
BoxBuzz wrote: 07 Jan 2021, 01:32

Now now...it's just one individual's opinion......you are safe! No one is imposing on you! I don't want to get you hyperventilating. In fact you can speak your piece......and I will take note.
And if you feel Carter was one of the greats, I will not speak disparagingly against any religious figure in response.. I will simply listen, and ponder with due respect.
Your opinion is ridiculous. Just because he was not elite and not one of the greats, does not mean he should be compared to YOUTUBERS.

Hey buddy, don't sell ridiculous short. It has it's place in the matrix. However.....I don't think these two would make a genuinely competitive bout. Mostly because of the ridiculous difference in skill level. And.....my greater point, is that they are being hypothetically matched for Carter's iconic reputation. .... So.....I hope we can still be friends, despite my ridiculazations. And my rather bombastical assertions.
I think GGG beats the crap out of him, but comparing Carter to those YouTube guys is definitely stupendously outrageous.
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Re: Middleweights : Gennady Golovkin vs. Rubin Carter

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Onetimeonly wrote: 09 Jan 2021, 22:31
gilgamesh wrote: 09 Jan 2021, 14:12
BoxBuzz wrote: 09 Jan 2021, 14:10


Hey buddy, don't sell ridiculous short. It has it's place in the matrix. However.....I don't think these two would make a genuinely competitive bout. Mostly because of the ridiculous difference in skill level. And.....my greater point, is that they are being hypothetically matched for Carter's iconic reputation. .... So.....I hope we can still be friends, despite my ridiculazations. And my rather bombastical assertions.
His reputation seems to be based more on the movie about him than on his actual in-ring accomplishments.

If it were based on his actual fights he'd be properly dismissed as not much of a threat here.
How so? He was clearly more accomplished than Jacobs.
I wouldn't say he was. Though he does have the one win that's bigger than anything Jacobs has accomplished so far.
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Re: Middleweights : Gennady Golovkin vs. Rubin Carter

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gilgamesh wrote: 10 Jan 2021, 03:40
Onetimeonly wrote: 09 Jan 2021, 22:31
gilgamesh wrote: 09 Jan 2021, 14:12

His reputation seems to be based more on the movie about him than on his actual in-ring accomplishments.

If it were based on his actual fights he'd be properly dismissed as not much of a threat here.
How so? He was clearly more accomplished than Jacobs.
I wouldn't say he was. Though he does have the one win that's bigger than anything Jacobs has accomplished so far.
More than one.
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