I agree mate, one of the great "what ifs". Just no money or status at Cruiserweight at that time. I don't think people took it seriously as a division even when (until?) Toney had that great win over Jirov.Jimmy2020 wrote: ↑16 Jan 2021, 14:25 Hide was so powerful for his size. He could have easily done the 13 stone 8lbs cruiserweight limit. If he'd been about in the 14 stone 4lbs days he'd not have been one of the naturally biggest men in the division. I understand why they campaigned at heavyweight and he did well but he was always going to get rag dolled by the real heavyweights.
Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now
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Hide was a china chinned , on-top fighter. Could look good against 4th raters or has beens, but flopped terribly against top tier opposition. Haye was a Cruiserweight too, but faired much better against the big boys.
Yep, loved the Eubank snr stories Hearn told. The weekend in Paris funded by Hearn after a good performance was funny, to which Eubank replied "Barry, you gave me a rope and I hung you" !!!
Yep, loved the Eubank snr stories Hearn told. The weekend in Paris funded by Hearn after a good performance was funny, to which Eubank replied "Barry, you gave me a rope and I hung you" !!!
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Was Richie Woodhall really a body double for Brad Pitt in Snatch?
I had no idea.
Great podcast though.
Wouldn’t mind hearing one with John Thaxton.
I had no idea.
Great podcast though.
Wouldn’t mind hearing one with John Thaxton.
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He should get Eamon Magee and Darren Corbett on. They’ve plenty of stories.
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Frampton isn’t shy about The McGuigans on the James English podcast.
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Is this recent? Before or after the case?mickey1975 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2021, 06:32 Frampton isn’t shy about The McGuigans on the James English podcast.
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Just watched it, it's recent, however didn't give anything up on McGuigan other than he is a shark and won't speak to him again.Coco wrote: ↑17 Jan 2021, 06:56Is this recent? Before or after the case?mickey1975 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2021, 06:32 Frampton isn’t shy about The McGuigans on the James English podcast.
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high tower 1
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He didn’t hold back ! Hopefully he’s keeps a closer eye on money owed moving forwards.
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It was this morning. He’s done one with Muay Thai champ Liam Harrison as well. That kid has some story. He walks heavy.Coco wrote: ↑17 Jan 2021, 06:56Is this recent? Before or after the case?mickey1975 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2021, 06:32 Frampton isn’t shy about The McGuigans on the James English podcast.
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I think he used the word “hate” and “wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire”.Coco wrote: ↑17 Jan 2021, 07:12Just watched it, it's recent, however didn't give anything up on McGuigan other than he is a shark and won't speak to him again.Coco wrote: ↑17 Jan 2021, 06:56Is this recent? Before or after the case?mickey1975 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2021, 06:32 Frampton isn’t shy about The McGuigans on the James English podcast.
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Haha obv the bad feeling was there but I suppose the ins and outs of the case won't get aired.mickey1975 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2021, 08:36I think he used the word “hate” and “wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire”.
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The feeling is mutual I'd say but the McGuigans have the class not to air it in public .mickey1975 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2021, 08:36I think he used the word “hate” and “wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire”.
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In terms of (for want of a better term) the Sky Era, I'd put Hatton up there with AJ and Fury in terms of crossover.Deserter wrote: ↑16 Jan 2021, 12:58Hatton indisputably crossed over.CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 16:01 Very few modern uk boxers have truly crossed over. AJ definitely, Fury almost certainly , Haye definitely, Khan probably. Hatton probably. Bellew no way. Even someone like Froch with his megafights and standing in the game I don’t think has truly crossed over.
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I imagine as an unscrupulous promoter it’s relatively easy to keep your own counsel when you’ve trousered, probably illegally, several hundred thousand pounds from your boxer. There has been nothing classy about the McGuigans behaviour during this affair.TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑17 Jan 2021, 10:45The feeling is mutual I'd say but the McGuigans have the class not to air it in public .mickey1975 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2021, 08:36I think he used the word “hate” and “wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire”.
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I reckon an interview with a journeyman would be good. One of Nobb‘s ex-fighters, for example.
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Exactly, good call.
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I would ask Booth for some of the reasons that made him decide to win the ones he won. There are obviously dozens of losses against lads he was better than but that's the journeyman game, not interested in that at all. But why some of those wins?
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There would be an endless list of Nobby's ex fighters, spent endless hours in away changing rooms with them, proper characters, obv Pete Buckley, Tony Hanna, Arv Mittoo, Brian Coleman, Howard Clarke, add to that the likes of Nigel Rafferty, Paul Bonson, Tony Booth, Miguel Matthews.
Those boys were journeymen who regularly took on champions in warm up fights, rather than taking on tickets sellers in their debuts.
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I asked him why he turned it up a level when he boxed Jamie Warters, who is from my home city. He said he’d never let a York kid beat him in Hull! Then he knocked out Billy Wilson in Doncaster. Think he’s not keen on our lads. Had more wins than Calzaghe!Jimmy2020 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2021, 16:46I would ask Booth for some of the reasons that made him decide to win the ones he won. There are obviously dozens of losses against lads he was better than but that's the journeyman game, not interested in that at all. But why some of those wins?
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I went to see a mate of mine in HMP Hull when Tony was there. My mate is a boxing fan and got Boxing News delivered. Tony asked for it after he’d read it. He said he never got a bit of cheek since..... Even screws, one a pro trainer, had respect for him.
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Tony also swears he’s never been knocked out. He admits to sitting out the count but never been chinned. And he’s a natural light middleweight.
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good questionJimmy2020 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2021, 16:46I would ask Booth for some of the reasons that made him decide to win the ones he won. There are obviously dozens of losses against lads he was better than but that's the journeyman game, not interested in that at all. But why some of those wins?
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There is one with Jonny Greaves, if you’ve not heard it.
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/b ... 0431270045
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Thanks a lot J-C, I‘ll listen to that one later.