Who is the biggest threat to Canelo?

[oogiebe]

You realize I could boot your ass any time I want right?

You're lucky I've let you stick around as long as I have. Maybe quit being such a Holier than Thou prick. You're not impressing anybody at all. You're not proving you're smarter than anyone. You're not proving a goddamn thing except you have an ego that's out of control, and you feel the most pathetic need to validate it by arguing over everything, and you apply different standards to different fighters.

What is worthy of criticism for one guy, is just fine and dandy for another.

Canelo's PED use = "Hey he didn't do it"

Roy Jones PED use = "He's not as good as everyone thinks he was"

GGG fights a guy that he apparently didn't the first time it was offered = "He ducked him until he lost"

Canelo did the same thing with Golovkin = "I'm just gonna conveniently ignore that"

Just try, just once in your life to be a decent human being, and not a "look at me, and how right I am" c*nt for just one day. Is that too hard for ya?

Dude, he doesn't deserve any attention at all. Getting folks upset is is goal. Don't feed the weed, bruh.

[gilgamesh]

You realize I could boot your ass any time I want right?

You're lucky I've let you stick around as long as I have. Maybe quit being such a Holier than Thou prick. You're not impressing anybody at all. You're not proving you're smarter than anyone. You're not proving a goddamn thing except you have an ego that's out of control, and you feel the most pathetic need to validate it by arguing over everything, and you apply different standards to different fighters.

What is worthy of criticism for one guy, is just fine and dandy for another.

Canelo's PED use = "Hey he didn't do it"

Roy Jones PED use = "He's not as good as everyone thinks he was"

GGG fights a guy that he apparently didn't the first time it was offered = "He ducked him until he lost"

Canelo did the same thing with Golovkin = "I'm just gonna conveniently ignore that"

Just try, just once in your life to be a decent human being, and not a "look at me, and how right I am" c*nt for just one day. Is that too hard for ya?

Dude, he doesn't deserve any attention at all. Getting folks upset is is goal. Don't feed the weed, bruh.

Oh don't worry. He won't be getting any for 7 days. Not here anyway. Maybe he'll come back with an attitude adjustment. If not. I can always make it a Fortnight

[oogiebe]

You realize I could boot your ass any time I want right?

You're lucky I've let you stick around as long as I have. Maybe quit being such a Holier than Thou prick. You're not impressing anybody at all. You're not proving you're smarter than anyone. You're not proving a goddamn thing except you have an ego that's out of control, and you feel the most pathetic need to validate it by arguing over everything, and you apply different standards to different fighters.

What is worthy of criticism for one guy, is just fine and dandy for another.

Canelo's PED use = "Hey he didn't do it"

Roy Jones PED use = "He's not as good as everyone thinks he was"

GGG fights a guy that he apparently didn't the first time it was offered = "He ducked him until he lost"

Canelo did the same thing with Golovkin = "I'm just gonna conveniently ignore that"

Just try, just once in your life to be a decent human being, and not a "look at me, and how right I am" c*nt for just one day. Is that too hard for ya?

Dude, he doesn't deserve any attention at all. Getting folks upset is is goal. Don't feed the weed, bruh.

Oh don't worry. He won't be getting any for 7 days. Not here anyway. Maybe he'll come back with an attitude adjustment. If not. I can always make it a Fortnight

Let's be mindful of any new 'members.' I'd bet a bunch he'll be back with another name.

[gilgamesh]

Dude, he doesn't deserve any attention at all. Getting folks upset is is goal. Don't feed the weed, bruh.

Oh don't worry. He won't be getting any for 7 days. Not here anyway. Maybe he'll come back with an attitude adjustment. If not. I can always make it a Fortnight

Let's be mindful of any new 'members.' I'd bet a bunch he'll be back with another name.

Surely he can wait 7 days

I didn't permanently ban him. Just gave him some time off to reflect on how to interact with people.

[oogiebe]

Oh don't worry. He won't be getting any for 7 days. Not here anyway. Maybe he'll come back with an attitude adjustment. If not. I can always make it a Fortnight

Let's be mindful of any new 'members.' I'd bet a bunch he'll be back with another name.

Surely he can wait 7 days

I didn't permanently ban him. Just gave him some time off to reflect on how to interact with people.

Meh, won't help any. but well done, lad! Appreciate a week off from his blather.

[margaret thatcher]

lol, now wait for verlichte to start posting again

[oogiebe]

lol, now wait for verlichte to start posting again

[p4p1]

Does anyone feel as though Canelo got way too much credit for pushing forward in that 2nd fight with GGG? Yes, it was rather shocking to see that game plan instituted against the most dangerous fighter in the world at the time. But I still had GGG landing more through fight and I don’t care what anyone says, he had Canelo hurt worse than anyone since fighting Cotto early on. Not Miguel btw.

Neither one of 'em really seemed real badly hurt at any point in the fight, but Canelo did seem noticeably more tired down the stretch of the fight than Golovkin did.

I remember Jose Cotto hurting him real badly. I've still never seen him stunned that badly since, and to Canelo's credit he was only 19 at the time so you can't hold it against him too badly.

Definitely not knocking Canelo for that Cotto fight. I’m sure it helped him become the beast he is today. I personally think he’s right now the baddest man on the planet as much as I hate to say it because I’m not a fan. I just happened to think that GGG won both fights and Lara was victimized badly on those cards.

Badest man on the planet (assuming you just mean boxing) is the guy who could take out anyone. Canelo would get smashed by most top HWs and CWs. He might be p4p the best atm though. I agree re GGG.

[margaret thatcher]

whose a badder man, the dude who can beat anyone 1 on 1 in a fight

or

the dude who has the power/influence to hire 10 dudes to beat up any 1 guy in a fight

[p4p1]

whose a badder man, the dude who can beat anyone 1 on 1 in a fight

or

the dude who has the power/influence to hire 10 dudes to beat up any 1 guy in a fight

So....... Putin is the baddest man on the planet then?

[margaret thatcher]

could well be, or one of those other strongman (not muscle strength) types

[p4p1]

could well be, or one of those other strongman (not muscle strength) types

I'd back a guy like Ngannou or Miocic over a strongman anyday tbh. I'd back most top HW boxers, Kickboxers etc as well but the strongman could well pull him to the ground before getting KO'd.

TBH even when Tyson was the 'baddest man on the planet' I would probably have been more scared of Karelin

[margaret thatcher]

does putin have a black belt in judo + trained in the military etc....tbf he's prob one of the best actual fighters for world leaders even considering his size

[margaret thatcher]

could well be, or one of those other strongman (not muscle strength) types

I'd back a guy like Ngannou or Miocic over a strongman anyday tbh. I'd back most top HW boxers, Kickboxers etc as well but the strongman could well pull him to the ground before getting KO'd.

TBH even when Tyson was the 'baddest man on the planet' I would probably have been more scared of Karelin

oh ya, for sure. strong men (the muscle ones) usually suck at fighting and are super slow and stiff, and ironically have little punch power. i meant strong man as in like, an influential gang/political leader

karelin was a f@cking beat, man i wonder what he woulda been like in mma.

[p4p1]

does putin have a black belt in judo + trained in the military etc....tbf he's prob one of the best actual fighters for world leaders even considering his size

Legitematly would pay to watch Pride style tournamaent with all the world leaders
One night only PPV event, count me in.

could well be, or one of those other strongman (not muscle strength) types

I'd back a guy like Ngannou or Miocic over a strongman anyday tbh. I'd back most top HW boxers, Kickboxers etc as well but the strongman could well pull him to the ground before getting KO'd.

TBH even when Tyson was the 'baddest man on the planet' I would probably have been more scared of Karelin

oh ya, for sure. strong men (the muscle ones) usually suck at fighting and are super slow and stiff, and ironically have little punch power. i meant strong man as in like, an influential gang/political leader

karelin was a f@cking beat, man i wonder what he woulda been like in mma.

Gotchya now, in my experience and it huge but I've been in the ring with bikies etc and unless they're just massive, they're nothing special. Bikies moved into the building behind a gym I trained at so there was always plenty around, some could fight, some knew heaps about it and could've been decent trainers, others knew nothing and thought they were tough and some knew they couldn't fight at all. Often one of my trainers used to have to pull me back and whisper in my ear between rounds to not look like I was playing around or just ease up etc. Some guys would love having guys that would go at them because people were understandable scared to show them up or hurt them. I remember seeing one of the guys I sparred with out one night and he grabbed me, took me around to all his mates in the club told them to look after me etc and it was because when he wanted hard sparring I didn't back off and gave it to him. Another guy tried to talk me into entering one of their winner takes all (about $10k) tournaments because he was pretty confident I would win it. I'm not stupid, I didn't go anywhere near it. I know gangs here have often tried and often do recruit guys who fight. I think the image of them being tough and rough is overblown when it comes to a one on one fight.

[Thomastearns]

Im using history of a negative drug test to not discard the possibility canelo is still on something

When you arent blinded by ideology or fanaticism you stay grounded in reality

Thats why i dont have to write a novel - i dont have to defend pretzel logic

Are you claiming that Canelo wasn’t ultimately cleared of committing any wrongdoing by WADA, the WBC and also the NSAC?

He served a suspension

And do you still claim to know more about Canelo’s physical attributes than Callum Smith, despite the fact you’ve never met, never spoken to, never trained with, never sparred with or even fought Canelo?

I never once said that. You are lying. Point to my words where i said i know more than callum. You cant because you are a liar

I don’t think you’re brave enough to answer both of these questions, but it’ll be fun to see you squirm and become mentally weak and vain to see you try.

Im the smartest person youve had the pleasure of speaking to today.

Wow! A beautiful flourish right at the end that seems to irrefutably prove that EO has a sense of humour!

Full credit to both parties

That's just got to be one of the best ever exchanges on this forum.

[The Gratest]

lol, now wait for verlichte to start posting again

Some soliding predicting from Maggie.
You should copy and paste this prediction repeatedly once it happens.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Are you claiming that Canelo wasn’t ultimately cleared of committing any wrongdoing by WADA, the WBC and also the NSAC?

He served a suspension

And do you still claim to know more about Canelo’s physical attributes than Callum Smith, despite the fact you’ve never met, never spoken to, never trained with, never sparred with or even fought Canelo?

I never once said that. You are lying. Point to my words where i said i know more than callum. You cant because you are a liar

I don’t think you’re brave enough to answer both of these questions, but it’ll be fun to see you squirm and become mentally weak and vain to see you try.

Im the smartest person youve had the pleasure of speaking to today.

Wow! A beautiful flourish right at the end that seems to irrefutably prove that EO has a sense of humour!

Full credit to both parties

That's just got to be one of the best ever exchanges on this forum.

My responses to him were supposed to benin bold in that last post but now i see they werent!

[Loki]

GGG or Beterbiev.

[aicheligad]

No way he beats any top CW. Beterbiev (if he's still in prime) would defeat him.

[Thomastearns]

Wow! A beautiful flourish right at the end that seems to irrefutably prove that EO has a sense of humour!

Full credit to both parties

That's just got to be one of the best ever exchanges on this forum.

My responses to him were supposed to benin bold in that last post but now i see they werent!

Well, let's just hope for his sake that he was joking!

With his impressive workrate and 'never say die' attitude he could still one day develop into a brilliant poster here.

In these all-too often times without any major upcoming fights his presence here often helps to liven things up. He's certainly one hell of a verbal sparring partner.

EO is kind of like a know-all interesting friend/brother that you deep down you really want to like and encourage, but in person you just can't get on with.

I can only wish him well. These are not the best of times for many, many people.

[Cent0089]

Dmitri Bivol is real threat for Canelo, but i still favor Alvarez to win.
Artur Beterbiev brings punching power and strength which is unknown for mexican. Russian offensive arsenal is impressive but on the defense, he is average. Im not sure if i favor Canelo in this one.
Canelo had problem with slick boxers with good footwork so maybe Saunders and Andrade can cause some problems, but Canelo can handle that at this stage of his career.
Jermall Charlo has very sharp, fast and strong jab which is very good weapon against Alvarez. This is actually fight i wanna see. I think Canelo can handle this too
Golovkin beat Canelo in first fight, but Alvarez learned from that and defeated GGG in rematch. Canelo got better since that, while GGG got older and his defense and reflexes suffered
Plant, Benavidez, smaller Charlo, Spence are not big threats IMO

Does anyone else feel as though Canelo got way too much credit for pushing forward in that 2nd fight with GGG? Yes, it was rather shocking to see that game plan instituted against the most dangerous fighter in the world at the time. But I still had GGG landing more through fight and I don’t care what anyone says, he had Canelo hurt worse than anyone since fighting Cotto early on. Not Miguel btw.

Well, that bomb in 10th round from Golovkin was huge, but watch how Alvarez avoided maybe 15 punches right after that. That was impressive af.

[caldo2025]

I don't know if he's the baddest man on the planet, but he's definitely improved more and more all the time for several years. I would think he's surely hit his peak by now, but he's still certainly at it.

I wouldn't go on in the sport too much longer if I were him. I'd never give myself a chance to noticeably decline. I mean hell he's loaded. He owns a Yacht. He's made 10's of Millions for several fights. No real need to go on in this sport beyond your prime when you've been that successful.

Canelo appears to me to be pretty darn unstoppable these days. His combos and reflexes seem so much faster than everyone else’s in there. And doing it with thudding power now as well. This Canelo is definitely better than any other stage of his career.

Btw, My Baddest Man comment was meant more in a P4P way but now that I think about it, I think he would give AJ, TF or Wilder all that they could handle. Look what he’s done to SM and LH’s so far. They’d be some significant money bet on Canelo in a fight with any of those three HW’s. Maybe I’m talking crazy.

[margaret thatcher]

I don't know if he's the baddest man on the planet, but he's definitely improved more and more all the time for several years. I would think he's surely hit his peak by now, but he's still certainly at it.

I wouldn't go on in the sport too much longer if I were him. I'd never give myself a chance to noticeably decline. I mean hell he's loaded. He owns a Yacht. He's made 10's of Millions for several fights. No real need to go on in this sport beyond your prime when you've been that successful.

he would give AJ, TF or Wilder all that they could handle.

what are your predictions for canleo vs fury/aj/wilder ?

[squiggy]

Come on, man. Canelo Alvarez would never win a major fight at heavyweight. This is getting to be about one step shy of "I wonder how he would do if he fought Mike Tyson and Muhammad Ali at the same time while they shot him with tranquilizer darts so those two might have a chance."