Paul Sykes... where is he now?...

[MasterG]

I take no pleasure in saying this, mate, but the prison rape stuff happened. I have it on very good authority. I knew about all that well before Sykes became (in)famous. It was common knowledge what Sykes was.

I have no doubt it did to be honest but i dont think anyone has ever come out and said it happened to them personally, I maybe wrong.

I not denying Sykes was a wrong un, he paid the price for it and suffered later in life for his acts. I think if i had known him late rin life I would have spoken to him.

Yeh ,, you would of stopped for a chat ,,, suppose took him to the cafe for a bacon and egg butty , sat down opposite said , how ya doing , nowadays me old mate Pauly ,,, then thought , whats that ,, had a scratch , then had a look and found yourself covered in lice and fleas

You missed buying him a scratchcard and a a bottle of buckfast.

[forcefraser]

He lived about 300 yards from me growing up. Scary man. Many times he would come in the local boozer and mash us.

Lots of rumours about what he got up to in prison, dragging young lads into his cell and ruining them. Couldn´t handle the booze at all. Was always arseholed late on in life.

Physical specimen though, he had massive hands, like shovels.

Noncing is not on and its no secret he liked young girls (and boys). Got we he deserved in the end.

[margaret thatcher]

imagine you're walking alone on a sidewalk, and you see a prime sykes and purple aki together walking towards you

[chiggsy]

imagine you're walking alone on a sidewalk, and you see a prime sykes and purple aki together walking towards you

Imagine the conversation they'd be having?

"Yea purps i know how to bugger the big muscley rugby fellas.....yer punch em ont f***in earhole and they pull their shorts down".

[margaret thatcher]

[CaptainSpacerod]

Moss Side hasn't been rough for over 20 years. There's still a few knobheads here and there but the main thing that would put you off living there now are the students and all that goes with that. Nowhere in Manchester is that bad really. There's small pockets of deprivation and that does bring a few hard kids but overall it's a great and safe place to live.

Manchester is a dirty, violent city and a general doss hole, apart from one or two parts that think they're posh and are full of insufferable smug Manchester University types, who think they know something you don't.

It's got the poorest health and some of the highest deprivation rates in the country. It also consistently scores in the top five cities in Britain for violent crime. It has the widest gap in educational attainment between rich and poor.

The best part of it is Piccadilly station where you can get a train over the Pennines out of the place.

Manchester = Britain's most overrated city.

Got any statistics from official sources to back up your outlandish statements or just an unhealthy jealousy of a great city ?

[Steveh583]

manchester is AMAZING for a night out. i fly there for a lads weekend every year. £80 for both flights, cant be bad. proper party people.

[mickey1975]

Manchester is a dirty, violent city and a general doss hole, apart from one or two parts that think they're posh and are full of insufferable smug Manchester University types, who think they know something you don't.

It's got the poorest health and some of the highest deprivation rates in the country. It also consistently scores in the top five cities in Britain for violent crime. It has the widest gap in educational attainment between rich and poor.

The best part of it is Piccadilly station where you can get a train over the Pennines out of the place.

Manchester = Britain's most overrated city.

Got any statistics from official sources to back up your outlandish statements or just an unhealthy jealousy of a great city ?

It's nothing to be jealous (or proud) of, I can assure you.

Deprivation:
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... p-10166607

Crime:
https://aboutmanchester.co.uk/mancheste ... qualities/

Health:
https://aboutmanchester.co.uk/mancheste ... qualities/

Rising inequality:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -rich-poor

But don't worry, Manchester has always been a dump though, it's nothing new:
http://www.dannydorling.org/wp-content/ ... id2937.pdf

Statistics on insufferable Manchester University academics are currently unavailable. You'll have to trust me on that one.

NB. Wakefield, as Paul Sykes will tell you, is however the 'best little city in the world'

I don’t even think Wakefield is a city. My son loves Manchester. Spent half of his time there since he was 14.

[MasterG]

Ive only ever been to Manchester a few times for boxing events really. Apart from being threatened once by a junkie who threatened to stab me i found it ok. Never explored outside of the city centre so cant comment on that but the occasions ive been i found it like any city centre on a saturday night, very similar to Leeds really.

[MasterG]

Ive only ever been to Manchester a few times for boxing events really. Apart from being threatened once by a junkie who threatened to stab me i found it ok. Never explored outside of the city centre so cant comment on that but the occasions ive been i found it like any city centre on a saturday night, very similar to Leeds really.

Possibly my fault Merc, i should have given her my wallet when asked.

[Fray Bentos]

Manchester is a dirty, violent city and a general doss hole, apart from one or two parts that think they're posh and are full of insufferable smug Manchester University types, who think they know something you don't.

It's got the poorest health and some of the highest deprivation rates in the country. It also consistently scores in the top five cities in Britain for violent crime. It has the widest gap in educational attainment between rich and poor.

The best part of it is Piccadilly station where you can get a train over the Pennines out of the place.

Manchester = Britain's most overrated city.

Got any statistics from official sources to back up your outlandish statements or just an unhealthy jealousy of a great city ?

It's nothing to be jealous (or proud) of, I can assure you.

Deprivation:
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... p-10166607

Crime:
https://aboutmanchester.co.uk/mancheste ... qualities/

Health:
https://aboutmanchester.co.uk/mancheste ... qualities/

Rising inequality:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -rich-poor

But don't worry, Manchester has always been a dump, it's nothing new:
http://www.dannydorling.org/wp-content/ ... id2937.pdf

Statistics on insufferable Manchester University academics are currently unavailable. You'll have to trust me on that one.

NB. Wakefield, as Paul Sykes will tell you, is however the 'best little city in the world'

I lived in Manchester for a few years in the nineties and I never really liked it. One of the great things about it is the Middle Eastern/Indian food and it is better now than it has ever been. When I went to get my visa from the Chinese consulate in Rusholme, there was an excellent Malaysian restaurant (which is neither Middle Eastern or Indian of course...)I went to but the rest of it isn't worth two bob - personally speaking.

[coneye]

Ancoats ,, Moston ,, Monsal , collyhurst ,,, speak to anyone brought up there and they'll tell you ,, Bit rough round here ,, but the people are all salt of the earth ,,, Yep were common people but salt of the earth ,,, Then proceed to lock every window , every door , and hope there neighbor don't rob them ,, They'll all tell you , got no time for house robbers me , houserobbers are scum , then go in the pub and buy a bent dvd thay was robbed out of someones house

Manchesters a good place for an occasional night out but lots of the suburbs are shitholes. Still its not on its own , plenty of places in Britain just like it .

[CaptainSpacerod]

Manchester is a dirty, violent city and a general doss hole, apart from one or two parts that think they're posh and are full of insufferable smug Manchester University types, who think they know something you don't.

It's got the poorest health and some of the highest deprivation rates in the country. It also consistently scores in the top five cities in Britain for violent crime. It has the widest gap in educational attainment between rich and poor.

The best part of it is Piccadilly station where you can get a train over the Pennines out of the place.

Manchester = Britain's most overrated city.

Got any statistics from official sources to back up your outlandish statements or just an unhealthy jealousy of a great city ?

It's nothing to be jealous (or proud) of, I can assure you.

Deprivation:
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... p-10166607

Crime:
https://aboutmanchester.co.uk/mancheste ... qualities/

Health:
https://aboutmanchester.co.uk/mancheste ... qualities/

Rising inequality:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -rich-poor

But don't worry, Manchester has always been a dump, it's nothing new:
http://www.dannydorling.org/wp-content/ ... id2937.pdf

Statistics on insufferable Manchester University academics are currently unavailable. You'll have to trust me on that one.

NB. Wakefield, as Paul Sykes will tell you, is however the 'best little city in the world'

Never had the pleasure of a visit to Wakefield.

I was hoping for corroboration from official sources rather than left leaning newspapers and random websites

[TheGoods]

Cockeriill is not happy with him.

Thought they were mates Mick?

They were. Him and Sayers are not big fans of him now.

Boyle called Bri, and I quote, “a fat smelly bullsh**ing joke” today on Twitter.

Which is quite the comment considering he’s done three books on him. Full job is beyond parody.

[Wee Tommy]

Thought they were mates Mick?

They were. Him and Sayers are not big fans of him now.

Boyle called Bri, and I quote, “a fat smelly bullsh**ing joke” today on Twitter.

Which is quite the comment considering he’s done three books on him. Full job is beyond parody.

You only have to take one look at Boyle to know he’s a wrong’un

[dookus]

It's nothing to be jealous (or proud) of, I can assure you.

Deprivation:
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... p-10166607

Crime:
https://aboutmanchester.co.uk/mancheste ... qualities/

Health:
https://aboutmanchester.co.uk/mancheste ... qualities/

Rising inequality:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -rich-poor

But don't worry, Manchester has always been a dump, it's nothing new:
http://www.dannydorling.org/wp-content/ ... id2937.pdf

Statistics on insufferable Manchester University academics are currently unavailable. You'll have to trust me on that one.

NB. Wakefield, as Paul Sykes will tell you, is however the 'best little city in the world'

Never had the pleasure of a visit to Wakefield.

I was hoping for corroboration from official sources rather than left leaning newspapers and random websites

Obviously all fabricated then. The Manchester Evening News and the Guardian ie. the Manchester Guardian, obviously have some hidden agenda to slag off the fair city of Manchester.

Those MEN stories, reporting on studies commissioned by the Department for Local Government and the Inequalities in Health Alliance, obviously all made up. Not based on official sources.

Danny Dorling, Halford Mackinder Professor of Geography at Oxford University, he's obviously just making stuff up as well.

So, over to you. Perhaps you'd like to provide data from the International Centre for Mancunian Studies you are involved with. Data which refutes all this evidence and demonstrates what a safe, healthy, happy place Manchester is.

[coneye]

You ve not mentioned Salford right next door and a lot rougher than Manchester

[mickey1975]

You ve not mentioned Salford right next door and a lot rougher than Manchester

I’ve just read The Salford Lads. Busy lads.

[prewarboxing]

As a boxer Paul Sykes overachieved. He was a domestic heavyweight who got to fight for the British title at a time when the division was quite weak. Many better men never got the chance. John L Gardener, who wasn't one of our better champions took him to the cleaners. Man versus boy. I do not understand this obsession with Sykes. He was a poor contender for such a worthy title. If he wasn't so well known for being such a so-called "hard man" then he would be long forgotten. Neil Malpass was just as hard and who remembers him?

Like the Kray twins he has a reputation far beyond his fistic prowess. Only one of the Krays was any good in the ring and that was Charlie.

Paul Sykes = a poor quality fighter and a man best forgotten. Far better heavyweights than him deserve to be remembered more than he does.

Miles Templeton.

[Cyclops]

You ve not mentioned Salford right next door and a lot rougher than Manchester

Difference is, nobody goes around pretending that Salford's somehow a wonderful place.

My sort of stepsister bought a new build place in Salford: proper nice big house and would cost you fortunes down South. I remember seeing photos of it and it wasn't much more than my little 2 bed but it looked fornicating massive, all mod cons. I did say to my Mum's other half "it IS in Salford, though. Isn't that supposed to be quite rough?" (Only ever visited Manchester 4 or 5 times, never really liked it but it might just have been where I went. Just like London I suppose.)

Anyway they lasted less than 6 months before they had to move. The locals saw them off. Not physically, like they were directly threatened, but they just couldn't stand what my stepsister described as "scumbags" next door ruining her life.

For context, she grew up in Paisley!

[Cyclops]

As a boxer Paul Sykes overachieved. He was a domestic heavyweight who got to fight for the British title at a time when the division was quite weak. Many better men never got the chance. John L Gardener, who wasn't one of our better champions took him to the cleaners. Man versus boy. I do not understand this obsession with Sykes. He was a poor contender for such a worthy title. If he wasn't so well known for being such a so-called "hard man" then he would be long forgotten. Neil Malpass was just as hard and who remembers him?

Like the Kray twins he has a reputation far beyond his fistic prowess. Only one of the Krays was any good in the ring and that was Charlie.

Paul Sykes = a poor quality fighter and a man best forgotten. Far better heavyweights than him deserve to be remembered more than he does.

Miles Templeton.

I just think with these guys they were local bogeymen and a lot of legend sprung up around them. I remember being fascinated when told stories about particular nutters where I grew up and eventually ended up encountering them. They would probably have been shit in the ring but you weren't in the ring with them, were you? I remember one of my 'famous' local psychopaths trying to start a fight with everybody who crossed his path in the park one summer, giving me daggers as I sat with my bird and her mates and getting in the face of everyone who crossed his path. I knew who he was so I just kept my head down. Some Eastern European lads he started abusing gave some verbal back to him but when he started racially abusing them some of the black lads he was with (another notorious family from the town) took umbrage with the racism element and he ended up having a fight with his own mates where he glassed one of the black lads in the eye.

He's in prison now for murder after beating somebody to death over a kebab.

It's what people do and the stories that get told about them that get exaggerated or whatever, people are naturally inclined to be interested in that sort of thing I suppose.

[Noxy]

It’s an interest in predators. People think if they know about predators they have a better chance of not ending up as prey. You know what I mean like.

[chiggsy]

You ve not mentioned Salford right next door and a lot rougher than Manchester

I’ve just read The Salford Lads. Busy lads.

Not long finished it myself,christ almighty one extremely violent area that

[margaret thatcher]

As a boxer Paul Sykes overachieved. He was a domestic heavyweight who got to fight for the British title at a time when the division was quite weak. Many better men never got the chance. John L Gardener, who wasn't one of our better champions took him to the cleaners. Man versus boy. I do not understand this obsession with Sykes. He was a poor contender for such a worthy title. If he wasn't so well known for being such a so-called "hard man" then he would be long forgotten. Neil Malpass was just as hard and who remembers him?

Like the Kray twins he has a reputation far beyond his fistic prowess. Only one of the Krays was any good in the ring and that was Charlie.

Paul Sykes = a poor quality fighter and a man best forgotten. Far better heavyweights than him deserve to be remembered more than he does.

Miles Templeton.

ya but which other hws swam the straight of johor just in their pumps?

[Tuan_Jim]

You ve not mentioned Salford right next door and a lot rougher than Manchester

I’ve just read The Salford Lads. Busy lads.

Not long finished it myself,christ almighty one extremely violent area that

What, Salford?! It's a little media hub. Is it dangerous?