fighters ruined by first loss

[margaret thatcher]

that aussie kid john ryder mercked hasnt fought in almost 2 years, kid seemed wrecked after that loss, wouldnt surprise me if he packed it in pretty much

[Cyclops]

Chad Dawson probably deserves an honourable mention. He'll won't be remembered for being as good as he was even though he was extremely good: lost a strange one to Pascal and then was banjoed by Andre Ward a fight removed later and fell off a cliff form wise after that.

People forget he beat Hopkins much easier than Calzaghe: in fact Hopkins was terrified of him, and Joe didn't seem to be in too much of a rush to fight him either. An incredible waste.

I don't think he was the smartest guy. I hope he made some money.

That Adamek win was underrated as well. I dont Dawson was a waste. He was a decent champ. never great but not a waste. I'm not sure how who beat very good fighters and world champs is a waste of a career.

Him draining himself to 168 to get KO'd by Ward was a bad move, and then he was KO'd early by Stevenson. He wasn't remotely the fighter that he was. He was very good and had great scalps and then after losing started coming overweight, seemed all over the place mentally and looked terrible. It's a waste in terms of, i think he'll be overlooked in the history of the division but before he lost i think prime Chad Dawson would have given today's light heavyweights fits. Even I'd forgotten about the Adamek win, which was excellent, wasn't it He? He just didn't rebound and his form dipped dramatically.

[margaret thatcher]

agree, people now mostly just think of his sad chad phase and forget that he ran up a really nice list of wins

[f read]

Gerry Cooney. When he lost to Larry Holmes June 11 1982 he was as good as done. He only fought another 5 times with 2 more losses to Michael Spinks and George Foreman. He was outclassed and overmatched against Holmes but to his credit he gave it his all. I believe that if he fought a few of the other champs around that time he would have a good chance of victory. Mancini lost to a superior fighter in Arguello but bounced back 7 months later to defeat Arturo Frias.

[bennie]

John Conteh lost an early career fight to an American by the name of Eddie Duncan but it was a winning fight which essentially ruined him: a 10-round decision over Willie Taylor in the States in 1975. Conteh, the reigning WBC light-heavyweight champion, had fallen out with his manager and trainer and was now running his own show because he felt he could earn more money that way. Sadly, he broke his right hand against the much shorter Taylor, nicknamed "The Bull", and later broke the hand again in sparring. He threw the right hand sparingly from then on and was subsequently stripped of his world title when he sat around waiting for big offers that didn't materialise. He reconciled with his manager and trainer and made three attempts to win back the WBC title but lost each time.

[Deserter]

Gerry Cooney. When he lost to Larry Holmes June 11 1982 he was as good as done. He only fought another 5 times with 2 more losses to Michael Spinks and George Foreman. He was outclassed and overmatched against Holmes but to his credit he gave it his all. I believe that if he fought a few of the other champs around that time he would have a good chance of victory. Mancini lost to a superior fighter in Arguello but bounced back 7 months later to defeat Arturo Frias.

Great call

[danconnollyeire]

Michael Grant

[NoScoutingReports]

Alex Saucedo

[TheGman]

Ricky hatton?

[Foggy]

Anthony Yarde

[Tuan_Jim]

Shane Mosley never looked totally right after Vernon Forrest beat him silly

I would say that Margarito fight and even the Cotto fight he looked pretty damn good.

Forest I was apparently where he first began slurring his words for a couple of weeks after every fight. (Now he's permanently incomprehensible.) While he later pulled off a good if flattering win over an... 'unarmed' Margarito, he never looked brilliant again. I can't believe a fight like Forrest I wouldn't have a deleterious effect on a man's health. It gives me a headache just watching it!

[Cyclops]

Ricky hatton?

I think that's a sound call. He might have beaten Paulie after Floyd but Paulie couldn't punch and from what I recall he looked like he had Hatton bothered in the first. I think Floyd cracked his chin.

Certainly the Pacquiao fight seems to have given Ricky PTSD.

Hatton's a funny one, isn't he? I've known a few people that have met him and heard all the usual stories but that he was still nice and friendly. Lots of people seem to be down on him on here. I thought he was an exceptional 'plucky Brit' that the people got behind. The Hatton/Calzaghe era of British boxing wasn't so bad. There were some big fights there.

[mickey1975]

Ricky hatton?

I think that's a sound call. He might have beaten Paulie after Floyd but Paulie couldn't punch and from what I recall he looked like he had Hatton bothered in the first. I think Floyd cracked his chin.

Certainly the Pacquiao fight seems to have given Ricky PTSD.

Hatton's a funny one, isn't he? I've known a few people that have met him and heard all the usual stories but that he was still nice and friendly. Lots of people seem to be down on him on here. I thought he was an exceptional 'plucky Brit' that the people got behind. The Hatton/Calzaghe era of British boxing wasn't so bad. There were some big fights there.

He’s great. Getting past Paul Speak is the hard part.

[TheGman]

Ricky hatton?

I think that's a sound call. He might have beaten Paulie after Floyd but Paulie couldn't punch and from what I recall he looked like he had Hatton bothered in the first. I think Floyd cracked his chin.

Certainly the Pacquiao fight seems to have given Ricky PTSD.

Hatton's a funny one, isn't he? I've known a few people that have met him and heard all the usual stories but that he was still nice and friendly. Lots of people seem to be down on him on here. I thought he was an exceptional 'plucky Brit' that the people got behind. The Hatton/Calzaghe era of British boxing wasn't so bad. There were some big fights there.

And lazcano hit him with a few check hooks similar to floyd,he just wasnt the same guy after floyd beat him.

[kevo]

Does Roman Greenberg count?

[TheLeprechaun]

Chad Dawson probably deserves an honourable mention. He'll won't be remembered for being as good as he was even though he was extremely good: lost a strange one to Pascal and then was banjoed by Andre Ward a fight removed later and fell off a cliff form wise after that.

People forget he beat Hopkins much easier than Calzaghe: in fact Hopkins was terrified of him, and Joe didn't seem to be in too much of a rush to fight him either. An incredible waste.

I don't think he was the smartest guy. I hope he made some money.

That Adamek win was underrated as well. I dont Dawson was a waste. He was a decent champ. never great but not a waste. I'm not sure how who beat very good fighters and world champs is a waste of a career.

Him draining himself to 168 to get KO'd by Ward was a bad move, and then he was KO'd early by Stevenson. He wasn't remotely the fighter that he was. He was very good and had great scalps and then after losing started coming overweight, seemed all over the place mentally and looked terrible. It's a waste in terms of, i think he'll be overlooked in the history of the division but before he lost i think prime Chad Dawson would have given today's light heavyweights fits. Even I'd forgotten about the Adamek win, which was excellent, wasn't it He? He just didn't rebound and his form dipped dramatically.

Not too many people gave Stevenson a chance in that one before the fight.

[margaret thatcher]

Does Roman Greenberg count?

the salad man

[Shirow]

Does Roman Greenberg count?

I was going to mention him. Nicholas Walters too.

[brilo33]

Miguel Cotto

[Foggy]

Tavoris Cloud, Anthony Olajide.

Lost to some quality opposition Cloud....BHOP, Stevenson and berterbiev (spelling probably wrong).......hyped up american in the end I suppose

[GreenLightning]

Ricky hatton?

I think that's a sound call. He might have beaten Paulie after Floyd but Paulie couldn't punch and from what I recall he looked like he had Hatton bothered in the first. I think Floyd cracked his chin.

Paulie landed two crisp jabs in the first round, HBO were saying "Now you can see why Paulie is an extremely live underdog!" Hatton shook Paulie to his boots in the second round and Paulie spent the rest of the fight hanging on for dear life getting both outboxed and beaten from pillar to post, to the point where the HBO crew were making fun of him, because he was talking shit about Hattons holding, Paulie never bothered Hatton at all

[Ruthless-RKO]

Steven Butler

[bennie]

Gerry Cooney. When he lost to Larry Holmes June 11 1982 he was as good as done. He only fought another 5 times with 2 more losses to Michael Spinks and George Foreman. He was outclassed and overmatched against Holmes but to his credit he gave it his all. I believe that if he fought a few of the other champs around that time he would have a good chance of victory. Mancini lost to a superior fighter in Arguello but bounced back 7 months later to defeat Arturo Frias.

Cooney stood a much better chance against WBA champion Mike Weaver than he did against Holmes. Unfortunately, he was co-managed by Dennis Rappaport and Mike Jones, also known in boxing circles as "The Wacko Twins", and they messed up every fighter they touched. They paid Howard Davis a fortune to turn pro in 1977, after Davis had won lightweight gold in the Montreal Olympics (and the Val Barker Trophy as the best boxer in the Games) and Davis proceeded to underachieve throughout his disappointing career, although he did come close to winning the WBC lightweight title in 1984 against Edwin Rosario but close is not good enough.
Cooney was also an underachiever and he went into the Holmes fight with three minutes and 45 seconds of action in the previous two years, which is obviously ludicrous. Plus, he was drinking heavily as the weight of expectancy got on top of him. Nevertheless, he fought a good fight and should have bounced back but Gerry was a sensitive soul who took the defeat badly. He despised his managers and he despised Don King, who had the leading contenders sewn up and froze Cooney out. The drinking got worse and Cooney was on a bottle of scotch a day for the remainder of his stop-start career. Thankfully, he quit the bottle many moons ago.

[Steveh583]

Ricky hatton?

I always believed tsyzu took something from Hatton in losing. Plus he became obsessed with repeating those same tactics in every fight

[bigjack]

Gerry Cooney. When he lost to Larry Holmes June 11 1982 he was as good as done. He only fought another 5 times with 2 more losses to Michael Spinks and George Foreman. He was outclassed and overmatched against Holmes but to his credit he gave it his all. I believe that if he fought a few of the other champs around that time he would have a good chance of victory. Mancini lost to a superior fighter in Arguello but bounced back 7 months later to defeat Arturo Frias.

Cooney stood a much better chance against WBA champion Mike Weaver than he did against Holmes. Unfortunately, he was co-managed by Dennis Rappaport and Mike Jones, also known in boxing circles as "The Wacko Twins", and they messed up every fighter they touched. They paid Howard Davis a fortune to turn pro in 1977, after Davis had won lightweight gold in the Montreal Olympics (and the Val Barker Trophy as the best boxer in the Games) and Davis proceeded to underachieve throughout his disappointing career, although he did come close to winning the WBC lightweight title in 1984 against Edwin Rosario but close is not good enough.
Cooney was also an underachiever and he went into the Holmes fight with three minutes and 45 seconds of action in the previous two years, which is obviously ludicrous. Plus, he was drinking heavily as the weight of expectancy got on top of him. Nevertheless, he fought a good fight and should have bounced back but Gerry was a sensitive soul who took the defeat badly. He despised his managers and he despised Don King, who had the leading contenders sewn up and froze Cooney out. The drinking got worse and Cooney was on a bottle of scotch a day for the remainder of his stop-start career. Thankfully, he quit the bottle many moons ago.

Dennis Rappaport was a complete knob.