I meant if the majority of people did unrecognised them.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑31 Jan 2021, 15:22Small time? They all do. The wba will be all over the canelo fight. Nobody cares about the wbn.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑31 Jan 2021, 09:39 You’re always gonna get small time promoters that will use the WBA, because having an event event header “World Championship Boxing” is always better than “12 round boxing main event”.
Like how some promoters in certain places hype the IBO.
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As long as the fighters do, the people don't matter. Not that I pay attention anymore, but it's not like anyone is going to not watch a fight because the wba is involved and some bloggers told them not too. I'm sure the wbn will cover canelos fight, not typing wba means nothing.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑31 Jan 2021, 15:27I meant if the majority of people did unrecognised them.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑31 Jan 2021, 15:22Small time? They all do. The wba will be all over the canelo fight. Nobody cares about the wbn.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑31 Jan 2021, 09:39 You’re always gonna get small time promoters that will use the WBA, because having an event event header “World Championship Boxing” is always better than “12 round boxing main event”.
Like how some promoters in certain places hype the IBO.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑31 Jan 2021, 15:27I meant if the majority of people did unrecognised them.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑31 Jan 2021, 15:22Small time? They all do. The wba will be all over the canelo fight. Nobody cares about the wbn.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑31 Jan 2021, 09:39 You’re always gonna get small time promoters that will use the WBA, because having an event event header “World Championship Boxing” is always better than “12 round boxing main event”.
Like how some promoters in certain places hype the IBO.
How about someone ignoring all of the alphabet sanctioning bodies and simply inviting the top 8 in every division to slug it out?
4qf, 2sf and a final?
So for HW you could invite AJ, Fury, Wilder, Ruiz, Usyk, Joyce, Parker and Whyte.
If anyone refuses to enter then they can shut up and let the next in line step up.
3 fights in a year shouldn't be too difficult should it?
That way you could restore some logic and respect to the sport as well as having an undisputed champion.
It would take serious money or some serious collaboration to do it, but it might just be possible for some like DAZN to arrange it.
Perhaps the start could be some kind of computerised ranking system like in virtually every other sport you can think of. If you can do it in something as random as football then you can certainly do the same in boxing.
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The fighters want those belts bro. Canelo still craves them when he doesn't need them at all.
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Trevor Bryan earned his shot at the interim WBA strap by defeating two fighters with just FOUR WINS in 48 BOUTS between them.
Trevor Bryan captured the WBA's vacant interim title by beating BJ Flores, a former cruiserweight contender who had been inactive for fourteen months, losing his previous bout at cruiserweight and then only managed to subsequently overcome two boxers with 26 losses between them.
Trevor Bryan then experienced 2½ years of inactivity, whilst being able to retain ownership of his worthless interim belt (having fought only one bout in 38 months).
Trevor Bryan was then allowed to capture the vacant regular WBA world heavyweight title, by beating the previously unranked Bermane Stiverne, who hadn’t won a single bout in 5 years and three months (or one moderately controversial victory over a journeyman within an 81 month timeframe).
If Anthony Joshua vacates the WBA strap (he won't, but it would be good if he did!), Gilberto Mondoza would be forced to abide by the rules and elevate Trevor Bryan to become the WBA's super world heavyweight champion, which would completely ruin their prestigious title (if you consider the belts lineage):
• 1964 - Muhammad Ali
• 1965 - Ernie Terrell
• 1967 - Muhammad Ali
• 1968 - Jimmy Ellis
• 1970 - Joe Frazier
• 1973 - George Foreman
• 1974 - Muhammad Ali
• 1978 - Leon Spinks
• 1978 - Muhammad Ali
• 1979 - John Tate
• 1980 - Mike Weaver
• 1982 - Michael Dokes
• 1983 - Gerrie Coetzee
• 1984 - Greg Page
• 1985 - Tony Tubbs
• 1986 - Tim Witherspoon
• 1986 - James Smith
• 1987 - Mike Tyson
• 1990 - James Douglas
• 1990 - Evander Holyfield
• 1992 - Riddick Bowe
• 1993 - Evander Holyfield
• 1994 - Michael Moorer
• 1994 - George Foreman
• 1995 - Bruce Seldon
• 1996 - Mike Tyson
• 1996 - Evander Holyfield
• 1999 - Lennox Lewis
• 2000 - Evander Holyfield
• 2001 - John Ruiz
• 2003 - Roy Jones Jr.
• 2003 - John Ruiz
• 2005 - Nikolai Valuev
• 2007 - Ruslan Chagaev
• 2008 - Nikolai Valuev
• 2009 - David Haye
• 2011 - Wladimir Klitschko
• 2015 - Tyson Fury
• 2017 - Anthony Joshua
• 2019 - Andy Ruiz Jr.
• 2019 - Anthony Joshua
• 2021 - Trevor Bryan

Trevor Bryan captured the WBA's vacant interim title by beating BJ Flores, a former cruiserweight contender who had been inactive for fourteen months, losing his previous bout at cruiserweight and then only managed to subsequently overcome two boxers with 26 losses between them.
Trevor Bryan then experienced 2½ years of inactivity, whilst being able to retain ownership of his worthless interim belt (having fought only one bout in 38 months).
Trevor Bryan was then allowed to capture the vacant regular WBA world heavyweight title, by beating the previously unranked Bermane Stiverne, who hadn’t won a single bout in 5 years and three months (or one moderately controversial victory over a journeyman within an 81 month timeframe).
If Anthony Joshua vacates the WBA strap (he won't, but it would be good if he did!), Gilberto Mondoza would be forced to abide by the rules and elevate Trevor Bryan to become the WBA's super world heavyweight champion, which would completely ruin their prestigious title (if you consider the belts lineage):
• 1964 - Muhammad Ali
• 1965 - Ernie Terrell
• 1967 - Muhammad Ali
• 1968 - Jimmy Ellis
• 1970 - Joe Frazier
• 1973 - George Foreman
• 1974 - Muhammad Ali
• 1978 - Leon Spinks
• 1978 - Muhammad Ali
• 1979 - John Tate
• 1980 - Mike Weaver
• 1982 - Michael Dokes
• 1983 - Gerrie Coetzee
• 1984 - Greg Page
• 1985 - Tony Tubbs
• 1986 - Tim Witherspoon
• 1986 - James Smith
• 1987 - Mike Tyson
• 1990 - James Douglas
• 1990 - Evander Holyfield
• 1992 - Riddick Bowe
• 1993 - Evander Holyfield
• 1994 - Michael Moorer
• 1994 - George Foreman
• 1995 - Bruce Seldon
• 1996 - Mike Tyson
• 1996 - Evander Holyfield
• 1999 - Lennox Lewis
• 2000 - Evander Holyfield
• 2001 - John Ruiz
• 2003 - Roy Jones Jr.
• 2003 - John Ruiz
• 2005 - Nikolai Valuev
• 2007 - Ruslan Chagaev
• 2008 - Nikolai Valuev
• 2009 - David Haye
• 2011 - Wladimir Klitschko
• 2015 - Tyson Fury
• 2017 - Anthony Joshua
• 2019 - Andy Ruiz Jr.
• 2019 - Anthony Joshua
• 2021 - Trevor Bryan
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Lmao! Credit where credits due. That’s funny as!
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a man with a first name as his last name simply cant be trusted in any facet of life. what exactly is he trying to cover up with those 2 first names?
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Good point, you also should never trust anyone who's never stolen anything.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 16:59 a man with a first name as his last name simply cant be trusted in any facet of life. what exactly is he trying to cover up with those 2 first names?
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I've never heard of World Boxing News, but I applaud them for this. None of the Organizations should be recognized. They're all jokes.
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I don't doubt it. I haven't heard of any matchups being announced that interest me in the slightest.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 18:19If you're still not watching you did yourself a favor Saturday. 6 useless fights.
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I was interested in seeing rock because a friend trumped him years ago. Once I saw his jugs and massive back flab rolls I was less enthused.gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 19:57I don't doubt it. I haven't heard of any matchups being announced that interest me in the slightest.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 18:19If you're still not watching you did yourself a favor Saturday. 6 useless fights.
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Hopefully we getting Ramirez vs. Taylor in May.gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 19:57I don't doubt it. I haven't heard of any matchups being announced that interest me in the slightest.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 18:19If you're still not watching you did yourself a favor Saturday. 6 useless fights.
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WBN reinstates World Boxing Association after considerable reform efforts
World Boxing News took the difficult decision to declassify the World Boxing Association as a recognized sanctioning body in boxing last January.
Almost nine months on, the WBA, through their figurehead Gilberto Mendoza – has worked tirelessly to alter their policy.
WBN was initially irked by the addition of multiple champions per division after a promise by Mendoza in 2013 to remove the “regular” title-holders.
At the time, WBN wrote: “Mendoza was adamant he would move to crown one sole champion per division. It didn’t happen.
“Things became a lot more cloudy with the addition of the WBA Gold championship a few years on.
“Add to that the situation regarding the heavyweight division. Plus, with the inconsistency in rankings and titles, WBN has moved to act.
“Stripping Manny Pacquiao of his belt and calling it ‘Champion in Recess.’ At the same time, adding Bermane Stiverne to their Top 15 ratings was the last straw.
“Pacquiao was helping his country fight the pandemic and was due to fight in 2021. The WBA should have understood this matter.
“As for Stiverne, ranking a heavyweight without a win for five years as the eleventh best in the world is an unforgivable and wrong decision.
“There are several other examples before this. Too many to name.”
WORLD BOXING ASSOCIATION CHANGES
The WBA has rectified this situation regarding belts and is on track for one sole champion in each division.
The second fault, as WBN saw it, was the inconsistency in the rankings. Several boxers appeared to get rated without earning their place. WBN will continue to monitor this and lobby the WBA through opinion articles if they see further examples.
Judging high-profile championship fights will also get scrutinized after several examples of shock scores in the past.
But for now, the WBA should be applauded for their intentions to admit wrongdoing and change accordingly.
Gold champions got demoted, while the “regular” straps are well on the way to being eradicated.
UNDISPUTED
Previously moving to see three titles as enough to be undisputed in the modern era, WBN will revert to four titles again.
The WBA has earned the right through its hard work, specifically over the last few months, to be the fourth major boxing sanctioning body.
Therefore, WBN will add the WBA champions back to the list of world champions at the earliest opportunity. However, only the major belt holders will be recognized moving forward.
Let’s hope they remain on track and continue towards just seventeen champions in the seventeen weight classes.
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It's all a complete joke.
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It’s kind of funny to see the WBN abandon their principles in less than nine months!
According to the WBA’s current rankings, these are their “world champions”:
• Oleksandr Usyk
• Trevor Bryan
• Mahmoud Charr
• Arsen Goulamirian
• Ryad Merhy
• Dmitry Bivol
• Saul Alvarez
• David Morrell Jr.
• Ryota Murata
• Erislandy Lara
• Jermell Charlo
• Yordenis Ugas
• Jamal James
• Josh Taylor
• Gervonta Davis
• Teofimo Lopez
• Gervonta Davis
• Roger Gutierrez
• Leo Santa Cruz
• Leigh Wood
• Murodjon Akhmadaliev
• Brandon Figueroa
• Naoya Inoue
• Juan Francisco Estrada
• Joshua Franco
• Artem Dalakian
• Hiroto Kyoguchi
• Esteban Bermudez
• Thammanoon Niyomtrong
• Victorio Saludar
These are the guys currently holding the Gold title:
• Robert Helenius
• Alexey Egorov
• Fedor Chudinov
• Michel Soro
• Vergil Ortiz Jr
• Ismael Barroso
• Roman Andreev
• Mark Urbanov
• David Jimenez
• Leyman Benavides
Forty titleholders spanning seventeen weight classes!
“What gives you credibility? If credibility is to approve a single title, do things like mechanics and not contribute to boxing, that is complicated, ” WBA President Gilberto Mendoza told ESPN.
“They tell me that there must be only one champion, but they don’t give me solid arguments. They tell me that they are devalued, but when we talk about making a tournament to leave a single champion, not everyone wants to enter it.
“When we talk about accepting a champion versus champion fight not everyone is willing.
“On the other hand a boxer with a title wins better, a boxer who goes to a title fight wins better.
“A chain that broadcasts a title fight does better. A promoter who has a title fight does better. The same fan, if he knows there is a title, is more attentive.”
According to the WBA’s current rankings, these are their “world champions”:
• Oleksandr Usyk
• Trevor Bryan
• Mahmoud Charr
• Arsen Goulamirian
• Ryad Merhy
• Dmitry Bivol
• Saul Alvarez
• David Morrell Jr.
• Ryota Murata
• Erislandy Lara
• Jermell Charlo
• Yordenis Ugas
• Jamal James
• Josh Taylor
• Gervonta Davis
• Teofimo Lopez
• Gervonta Davis
• Roger Gutierrez
• Leo Santa Cruz
• Leigh Wood
• Murodjon Akhmadaliev
• Brandon Figueroa
• Naoya Inoue
• Juan Francisco Estrada
• Joshua Franco
• Artem Dalakian
• Hiroto Kyoguchi
• Esteban Bermudez
• Thammanoon Niyomtrong
• Victorio Saludar
These are the guys currently holding the Gold title:
• Robert Helenius
• Alexey Egorov
• Fedor Chudinov
• Michel Soro
• Vergil Ortiz Jr
• Ismael Barroso
• Roman Andreev
• Mark Urbanov
• David Jimenez
• Leyman Benavides
Forty titleholders spanning seventeen weight classes!
“What gives you credibility? If credibility is to approve a single title, do things like mechanics and not contribute to boxing, that is complicated, ” WBA President Gilberto Mendoza told ESPN.
“They tell me that there must be only one champion, but they don’t give me solid arguments. They tell me that they are devalued, but when we talk about making a tournament to leave a single champion, not everyone wants to enter it.
“When we talk about accepting a champion versus champion fight not everyone is willing.
“On the other hand a boxer with a title wins better, a boxer who goes to a title fight wins better.
“A chain that broadcasts a title fight does better. A promoter who has a title fight does better. The same fan, if he knows there is a title, is more attentive.”
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Jeff_lacy_ko
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What else can poor gilberto do? He is working so damn hard
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To be fair.. there has been some positive changes..
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WBA has absolutely earned any negative treatment they receive from fans, media and anybody else that decides to pile on.
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Abso-firkin-lutely !