WBN no longer recognize World Boxing Association as a sanctioning body

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Onetimeonly wrote: 31 Jan 2021, 15:22
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 31 Jan 2021, 09:39 You’re always gonna get small time promoters that will use the WBA, because having an event event header “World Championship Boxing” is always better than “12 round boxing main event”.

Like how some promoters in certain places hype the IBO.
Small time? They all do. The wba will be all over the canelo fight. Nobody cares about the wbn.
I meant if the majority of people did unrecognised them.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 31 Jan 2021, 15:27
Onetimeonly wrote: 31 Jan 2021, 15:22
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 31 Jan 2021, 09:39 You’re always gonna get small time promoters that will use the WBA, because having an event event header “World Championship Boxing” is always better than “12 round boxing main event”.

Like how some promoters in certain places hype the IBO.
Small time? They all do. The wba will be all over the canelo fight. Nobody cares about the wbn.
I meant if the majority of people did unrecognised them.
As long as the fighters do, the people don't matter. Not that I pay attention anymore, but it's not like anyone is going to not watch a fight because the wba is involved and some bloggers told them not too. I'm sure the wbn will cover canelos fight, not typing wba means nothing.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 31 Jan 2021, 15:27
Onetimeonly wrote: 31 Jan 2021, 15:22
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 31 Jan 2021, 09:39 You’re always gonna get small time promoters that will use the WBA, because having an event event header “World Championship Boxing” is always better than “12 round boxing main event”.

Like how some promoters in certain places hype the IBO.
Small time? They all do. The wba will be all over the canelo fight. Nobody cares about the wbn.
I meant if the majority of people did unrecognised them.


How about someone ignoring all of the alphabet sanctioning bodies and simply inviting the top 8 in every division to slug it out?

4qf, 2sf and a final?

So for HW you could invite AJ, Fury, Wilder, Ruiz, Usyk, Joyce, Parker and Whyte.

If anyone refuses to enter then they can shut up and let the next in line step up.

3 fights in a year shouldn't be too difficult should it?

That way you could restore some logic and respect to the sport as well as having an undisputed champion.

It would take serious money or some serious collaboration to do it, but it might just be possible for some like DAZN to arrange it.

Perhaps the start could be some kind of computerised ranking system like in virtually every other sport you can think of. If you can do it in something as random as football then you can certainly do the same in boxing.
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The fighters want those belts bro. Canelo still craves them when he doesn't need them at all.
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Trevor Bryan earned his shot at the interim WBA strap by defeating two fighters with just FOUR WINS in 48 BOUTS between them.

Trevor Bryan captured the WBA's vacant interim title by beating BJ Flores, a former cruiserweight contender who had been inactive for fourteen months, losing his previous bout at cruiserweight and then only managed to subsequently overcome two boxers with 26 losses between them.

Trevor Bryan then experienced 2½ years of inactivity, whilst being able to retain ownership of his worthless interim belt (having fought only one bout in 38 months).

Trevor Bryan was then allowed to capture the vacant regular WBA world heavyweight title, by beating the previously unranked Bermane Stiverne, who hadn’t won a single bout in 5 years and three months (or one moderately controversial victory over a journeyman within an 81 month timeframe).

If Anthony Joshua vacates the WBA strap (he won't, but it would be good if he did!), Gilberto Mondoza would be forced to abide by the rules and elevate Trevor Bryan to become the WBA's super world heavyweight champion, which would completely ruin their prestigious title (if you consider the belts lineage):

1964 - Muhammad Ali
1965 - Ernie Terrell
1967 - Muhammad Ali
1968 - Jimmy Ellis
1970 - Joe Frazier
1973 - George Foreman
1974 - Muhammad Ali
1978 - Leon Spinks
1978 - Muhammad Ali
1979 - John Tate
1980 - Mike Weaver
1982 - Michael Dokes
1983 - Gerrie Coetzee
1984 - Greg Page
1985 - Tony Tubbs
1986 - Tim Witherspoon
1986 - James Smith
1987 - Mike Tyson
1990 - James Douglas
1990 - Evander Holyfield
1992 - Riddick Bowe
1993 - Evander Holyfield
1994 - Michael Moorer
1994 - George Foreman
1995 - Bruce Seldon
1996 - Mike Tyson
1996 - Evander Holyfield
1999 - Lennox Lewis
2000 - Evander Holyfield
2001 - John Ruiz
2003 - Roy Jones Jr.
2003 - John Ruiz
2005 - Nikolai Valuev
2007 - Ruslan Chagaev
2008 - Nikolai Valuev
2009 - David Haye
2011 - Wladimir Klitschko
2015 - Tyson Fury
2017 - Anthony Joshua
2019 - Andy Ruiz Jr.
2019 - Anthony Joshua
2021 - Trevor Bryan :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Lmao! Credit where credits due. That’s funny as!
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a man with a first name as his last name simply cant be trusted in any facet of life. what exactly is he trying to cover up with those 2 first names?
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margaret thatcher wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 16:59 a man with a first name as his last name simply cant be trusted in any facet of life. what exactly is he trying to cover up with those 2 first names?
Good point, you also should never trust anyone who's never stolen anything.
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I've never heard of World Boxing News, but I applaud them for this. None of the Organizations should be recognized. They're all jokes.
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gilgamesh wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 18:01 I've never heard of World Boxing News, but I applaud them for this. None of the Organizations should be recognized. They're all jokes.
If you're still not watching you did yourself a favor Saturday. 6 useless fights.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 18:19
gilgamesh wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 18:01 I've never heard of World Boxing News, but I applaud them for this. None of the Organizations should be recognized. They're all jokes.
If you're still not watching you did yourself a favor Saturday. 6 useless fights.
I don't doubt it. I haven't heard of any matchups being announced that interest me in the slightest.
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gilgamesh wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 19:57
Onetimeonly wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 18:19
gilgamesh wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 18:01 I've never heard of World Boxing News, but I applaud them for this. None of the Organizations should be recognized. They're all jokes.
If you're still not watching you did yourself a favor Saturday. 6 useless fights.
I don't doubt it. I haven't heard of any matchups being announced that interest me in the slightest.
I was interested in seeing rock because a friend trumped him years ago. Once I saw his jugs and massive back flab rolls I was less enthused.
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gilgamesh wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 19:57
Onetimeonly wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 18:19
gilgamesh wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 18:01 I've never heard of World Boxing News, but I applaud them for this. None of the Organizations should be recognized. They're all jokes.
If you're still not watching you did yourself a favor Saturday. 6 useless fights.
I don't doubt it. I haven't heard of any matchups being announced that interest me in the slightest.
Hopefully we getting Ramirez vs. Taylor in May.
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WBN reinstates World Boxing Association after considerable reform efforts

World Boxing News took the difficult decision to declassify the World Boxing Association as a recognized sanctioning body in boxing last January.

Almost nine months on, the WBA, through their figurehead Gilberto Mendoza – has worked tirelessly to alter their policy.

WBN was initially irked by the addition of multiple champions per division after a promise by Mendoza in 2013 to remove the “regular” title-holders.

At the time, WBN wrote: “Mendoza was adamant he would move to crown one sole champion per division. It didn’t happen.

“Things became a lot more cloudy with the addition of the WBA Gold championship a few years on.

“Add to that the situation regarding the heavyweight division. Plus, with the inconsistency in rankings and titles, WBN has moved to act.

“Stripping Manny Pacquiao of his belt and calling it ‘Champion in Recess.’ At the same time, adding Bermane Stiverne to their Top 15 ratings was the last straw.

“Pacquiao was helping his country fight the pandemic and was due to fight in 2021. The WBA should have understood this matter.

“As for Stiverne, ranking a heavyweight without a win for five years as the eleventh best in the world is an unforgivable and wrong decision.

“There are several other examples before this. Too many to name.”


WORLD BOXING ASSOCIATION CHANGES

The WBA has rectified this situation regarding belts and is on track for one sole champion in each division.

The second fault, as WBN saw it, was the inconsistency in the rankings. Several boxers appeared to get rated without earning their place. WBN will continue to monitor this and lobby the WBA through opinion articles if they see further examples.

Judging high-profile championship fights will also get scrutinized after several examples of shock scores in the past.

But for now, the WBA should be applauded for their intentions to admit wrongdoing and change accordingly.

Gold champions got demoted, while the “regular” straps are well on the way to being eradicated.

UNDISPUTED

Previously moving to see three titles as enough to be undisputed in the modern era, WBN will revert to four titles again.

The WBA has earned the right through its hard work, specifically over the last few months, to be the fourth major boxing sanctioning body.

Therefore, WBN will add the WBA champions back to the list of world champions at the earliest opportunity. However, only the major belt holders will be recognized moving forward.

Let’s hope they remain on track and continue towards just seventeen champions in the seventeen weight classes.
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Hard work hahaha
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It's all a complete joke.
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It’s kind of funny to see the WBN abandon their principles in less than nine months! :lol:

According to the WBA’s current rankings, these are their “world champions”:

• Oleksandr Usyk
• Trevor Bryan
• Mahmoud Charr
• Arsen Goulamirian
• Ryad Merhy
• Dmitry Bivol
• Saul Alvarez
• David Morrell Jr.
• Ryota Murata
• Erislandy Lara
• Jermell Charlo
• Yordenis Ugas
• Jamal James
• Josh Taylor
• Gervonta Davis
• Teofimo Lopez
• Gervonta Davis
• Roger Gutierrez
• Leo Santa Cruz
• Leigh Wood
• Murodjon Akhmadaliev
• Brandon Figueroa
• Naoya Inoue
• Juan Francisco Estrada
• Joshua Franco
• Artem Dalakian
• Hiroto Kyoguchi
• Esteban Bermudez
• Thammanoon Niyomtrong
• Victorio Saludar

These are the guys currently holding the Gold title:

• Robert Helenius
• Alexey Egorov
• Fedor Chudinov
• Michel Soro
• Vergil Ortiz Jr
• Ismael Barroso
• Roman Andreev
• Mark Urbanov
• David Jimenez
• Leyman Benavides

Forty titleholders spanning seventeen weight classes! :yay:

“What gives you credibility? If credibility is to approve a single title, do things like mechanics and not contribute to boxing, that is complicated, ” WBA President Gilberto Mendoza told ESPN.

They tell me that there must be only one champion, but they don’t give me solid arguments. They tell me that they are devalued, but when we talk about making a tournament to leave a single champion, not everyone wants to enter it.

“When we talk about accepting a champion versus champion fight not everyone is willing.

On the other hand a boxer with a title wins better, a boxer who goes to a title fight wins better.

A chain that broadcasts a title fight does better. A promoter who has a title fight does better. The same fan, if he knows there is a title, is more attentive.
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What else can poor gilberto do? He is working so damn hard
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Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 25 Oct 2021, 10:01 What else can poor gilberto do? He is working so damn hard
To be fair.. there has been some positive changes..
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WBA has absolutely earned any negative treatment they receive from fans, media and anybody else that decides to pile on.
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Abso-firkin-lutely !
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