BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

[nobleart1978]

Does not paint Macklin in a good light at all.
Looks like most of our british boxing " heroes" are well dodgy...

[Counter-puncher]

I'd bet my last shilling that Kinehan is touting for someone, if not multiple organisations. Intelligence agencies rather than coppers, and not Irish.

is his info that useful to those sorts though, I mean enough to justify the flagrant nature of his avoiding arrest and prosecution?

I'm guessing his main specialist subject is 'the international narcotics trade'?i mean, i assume if nobody's interested in prosecuting him for the fkin drugs then they don't give a fck about intelligence related to it either?

So I guess it's on the subject of firearms, Provo activity and so on?

[Jimmy2020]

Maybe. Also where does heroin come from and from whom? Where does that money go?

[Counter-puncher]

Maybe. Also where does heroin come from and from whom? Where does that money go?

hmm. not sure the juice is worth the squeeze there. I think I'd throw the pudendum in jail and fck his 'intel' off (he probably wildly exaggerates it anyway, they all do).

[Wee Tommy]

I'd bet my last shilling that Kinehan is touting for someone, if not multiple organisations. Intelligence agencies rather than coppers, and not Irish.

All the big players are, they only get jailed when they are replaced by their superiors.

[Wee Tommy]

I'd bet my last shilling that Kinehan is touting for someone, if not multiple organisations. Intelligence agencies rather than coppers, and not Irish.

is his info that useful to those sorts though, I mean enough to justify the flagrant nature of his avoiding arrest and prosecution?

I'm guessing his main specialist subject is 'the international narcotics trade'?i mean, i assume if nobody's interested in prosecuting him for the fkin drugs then they don't give a fck about intelligence related to it either?

So I guess it's on the subject of firearms, Provo activity and so on?

Massive bribes and some juicy info goes a long way mate. There are huge seizures of drugs every week in Rotterdam, Morocco, Spain/Portugal. They all grass on each other and often let a ton of substandard gear get nailed for 10 ton of top clobber to get thru.

[orbtastic]

Here's a short read on the program for anyone not bothered enough to watch it:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/1y3kad ... rld-boxing

I'd always thought there's a vaguely symbiotic relationship between the big dealers and the police. So it benefits one dealer if another is weakened or taken out or substantially affected i.e. prison. They will be swimming in similiar waters all the time due to how their trafficking works and their routes, they will know what's going on with each other.

I'd imagine some of them can't wait to leak information or essentially, grass to avoid either heat or prosecution. I'm sure there's all sorts of deals going off.

[TheGman]

I always thought that drugs should be legalized. Once you do that you completely take away that revenue from the gangs. It's not like it's hard to get the likes of cocaine or heroin if you want to get it anyway.

And the prisons will be quarter full too,people in jail for petty drug crimes.

[TheGman]

I always thought that drugs should be legalized. Once you do that you completely take away that revenue from the gangs. It's not like it's hard to get the likes of cocaine or heroin if you want to get it anyway.

In fact after thinking about it for a little bit,lets say they legalise all drugs,theft would still be a high crime rate so yes it takes out the dealers but the addicted would still need the funds to buy the product. It wouldnt work and I think dealers would still be around just like VAT free spirits and ciggys are still around.

[Ruthless-RKO]

MTK fighters have called out Bazza

[Nightmare Roy]

Just about to sit down with a brew and watch this.

[Black Sam Bellamy]

Interesting that Tris Dixon and Matt Christie contributed to the show, albeit on the periphery.

Be interesting to see if there are any moves made by Sky and BT. Especially Sky with their current woke agenda. The Golden Contract stuff has to be untenable now.

[MasterG]

I do like that Tallant Irish bird, shes ok. always fancied her

[TopGun]

Do you reckon Barry should watch his back now for speaking out?

[JimJim2009]

Interesting that Tris Dixon and Matt Christie contributed to the show, albeit on the periphery.

Be interesting to see if there are any moves made by Sky and BT. Especially Sky with their current woke agenda. The Golden Contract stuff has to be untenable now.

I kind of imagine Fwank and Eddie respectively saying "you go tell 'em then"

[Manchester Massive]

Do you reckon Barry should watch his back now for speaking out?

Barry too big a name really, be foolish to go after him as the finger would point directly at them and be uproar if he was taken out

[Nightmare Roy]

Interesting that Tris Dixon and Matt Christie contributed to the show, albeit on the periphery.

Be interesting to see if there are any moves made by Sky and BT. Especially Sky with their current woke agenda. The Golden Contract stuff has to be untenable now.

I kind of imagine Fwank and Eddie respectively saying "you go tell 'em then"

Yeah who wants to make that call

[JimJim2009]

Interesting that Tris Dixon and Matt Christie contributed to the show, albeit on the periphery.

Be interesting to see if there are any moves made by Sky and BT. Especially Sky with their current woke agenda. The Golden Contract stuff has to be untenable now.

I kind of imagine Fwank and Eddie respectively saying "you go tell 'em then"

Yeah who wants to make that call

I can only think of Adam Smith, probably involving a "straightener" in the car park or something.

[TheGman]

Does not paint Macklin in a good light at all.
Looks like most of our british boxing " heroes" are well dodgy...

Not just the boxers but the channels we watch them on(SKY,BT,ESPN ETC) and the promotors too. There should be a governing body that controls all what goes on in boxing,its too corrupt

[Nightmare Roy]

I kind of imagine Fwank and Eddie respectively saying "you go tell 'em then"

Yeah who wants to make that call

I can only think of Adam Smith, probably involving a "straightener" in the car park or something.

[Kit]

So what I took from it was the so the so called gangland mobster boss, was loved by his fighters as he took really good care of them and provided a great deal and good opportunities.

While the hero in a twist to the story, was despised by his fighters for financial mismanagement and not having their best interests at heart.

[handsofstone]

One thing i will say about anything ive heard or read about Kinahan regarding boxing is that he's well liked, MTK guys seem loyal to a fault, seems he treats his guys well and looks after them, whether world champs or novices everyone seems financially stable, their active, he puts on free streams on IFL, competitive cards

The fact that he deals drugs(allegedly) doesnt bother me, i take drugs, ive got mates that are dealers as i imagine most on here do, the fact that Kinahan supposedly does it on a bigger scale is morally no different


The alleged murdering though....

[Ruthless-RKO]

One thing i will say about anything ive heard or read about Kinahan regarding boxing is that he's well liked, MTK guys seem loyal to a fault, seems he treats his guys well and looks after them, whether world champs or novices everyone seems financially stable, their active, he puts on free streams on IFL, competitive cards

Like how Al Haymon is loved by the PBC guys.

[coneye]

Well if your a young fighter , who would you sign for , a relativly new management team , who seem to produce chances and oppurtunity that others don't , get you better money and charge you a less percentage ,, with a down size the supposed owner is reputed to be a boxing loving big time gangster that does'nt care about or need your money , does'nt need to rip you off and genuinly seems to love boxing and boxers , that he looks after them .

OR
A former boxer , who has an history of falling out with his boxers , has been proven to over charge

his fighters , and spend his fighters money on frivilous things , used his boxers money to pay his familly wages and is an arrogant prick surviving on his good name he earnt many years ago .

Personaly i know who i would go with , and it would'nt be Mcguigan ,,, would the fact that Kinnahann is a gangster bother me , not in the least , unless he flys me out to Dubai , chaces are i'm never gonna meet him anyway ,,

[JimJim2009]

One thing i will say about anything ive heard or read about Kinahan regarding boxing is that he's well liked, MTK guys seem loyal to a fault, seems he treats his guys well and looks after them, whether world champs or novices everyone seems financially stable, their active, he puts on free streams on IFL, competitive cards

The fact that he deals drugs(allegedly) doesnt bother me, i take drugs, ive got mates that are dealers as i imagine most on here do, the fact that Kinahan supposedly does it on a bigger scale is morally no different


The alleged murdering though....

There's always something....