BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

[mickey1975]

They’ve signed Mike Coppinger now. Alongside IFL and Behind The Gloves, Twitter isn’t going to be neutral.

[Ruthless-RKO]

lot of harassment and lost significant sponsorship deals as a result of the allegations made by Panorama and other members of the media.

From this point onwards i have nothing further to say on this subject and need to concentrate on training for the biggest fight of my life. If

— billyjoesaunders (@bjsaunders_)

[Coco]

lot of harassment and lost significant sponsorship deals as a result of the allegations made by Panorama and other members of the media.

From this point onwards i have nothing further to say on this subject and need to concentrate on training for the biggest fight of my life. If

— billyjoesaunders (@bjsaunders_)

BJSs had sponsorship??

[Ruthless-RKO]

lot of harassment and lost significant sponsorship deals as a result of the allegations made by Panorama and other members of the media.

From this point onwards i have nothing further to say on this subject and need to concentrate on training for the biggest fight of my life. If

— billyjoesaunders (@bjsaunders_)

BJSs had sponsorship??

I don't know anyone in their right mind who would want to..

[BigDoofus]

lot of harassment and lost significant sponsorship deals as a result of the allegations made by Panorama and other members of the media.

From this point onwards i have nothing further to say on this subject and need to concentrate on training for the biggest fight of my life. If

— billyjoesaunders (@bjsaunders_)

Wouldn't the loss of sponsorship be more related to his "Barry" tweets?

[Stevieaber]

So many different reasons to choose from as to why he doesn’t get sponsors, it’s amazing how people connected with allow him any social media. They must wince every time they pick theirs phones up

[mickey1975]

So many different reasons to choose from as to why he doesn’t get sponsors, it’s amazing how people connected with allow him any social media. They must wince every time they pick theirs phones up

He doesn’t strike me as the type who asks permission.

[Stevieaber]

Yeah, that’s the problem. Obviously seems to think he’s gods gift to comedy. Unfortunately the whole wife beating / junky baiting / alleged comments about people’s dead relatives thing doesn’t go over well.
And that’s before you factor in allowing your kids to punch opponents in the balls, the iffy drugs tests in Massachusetts and boring the arse out of everyone 9 fights out of 10.
Come to think about, knocking about with the Kinshan crew looks like his better side.

[MightyWarrior]

Tris Dixon and Matt Christie did well to speak up on the programme.

What’s the betting rent a gob Steve Bunce was asked to contribute? And Gareth Davies..

Possibly the only time in history both of them turned down the opportunity to appear on TV

[GreenLightning]

I wish I could say the amount of people defending Kinahan as a noble business man caught in a witch hunt by the media and the police was shocking, but it really isn't

The footage of Jamie Kavanaghs dad being gunned down was chilling, you can see bullets hitting the chairs and windows as he tries to run away, the guy he was with also had a few shots fired at him by the second gunman, while the first stood over Kavanaghs prone body and emptied the rest of his clip into him in front of a crowd of bar patrons

One of the witnesses to Gary Hutches shooting said they thought it was two lads playing a game until she heard Hutch begging for his life before the gunman executed him

I guess this is just some "original G" stuff to some people

[Counter-puncher]

Tris Dixon and Matt Christie did well to speak up on the programme.

What’s the betting rent a gob Steve Bunce was asked to contribute? And Gareth Davies..

Possibly the only time in history both of them turned down the opportunity to appear on TV

ha.

[Gnome]

I wish I could say the amount of people defending Kinahan as a noble business man caught in a witch hunt by the media and the police was shocking, but it really isn't

The footage of Jamie Kavanaghs dad being gunned down was chilling, you can see bullets hitting the chairs and windows as he tries to run away, the guy he was with also had a few shots fired at him by the second gunman, while the first stood over Kavanaghs prone body and emptied the rest of his clip into him in front of a crowd of bar patrons

One of the witnesses to Gary Hutches shooting said they thought it was two lads playing a game until she heard Hutch begging for his life before the gunman executed him

I guess this is just some "original G" stuff to some people

I agree.

[Stevieaber]

TBF the board is a bit knackered when we’re talking about foreign nationals who aren’t licence holders.
“Advisor” covers a whole lot of ground, and if they aren’t taking any payment (presumably because they “ahem” earn their money elsewhere) it’s difficult to prove a business relationship.
Don’t know if there’s a way to work out some form of “fit and proper person” clause around this for their licences, but without this it all relies on individuals having some personal integrity.
It’d also be interesting to know if some other promoter/manager types would fall foul of this.
The sports’ historical willingness to accept dubious characters has allowed this to happen, it’s just that info is so freely available now that shows any wrong ‘uns up.

[bigjack]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55956375

[garethhop]

This stuff is an absolute disaster for boxing.

[Stevieaber]

Narco terrorism. Makes the sports’ earlier “mob” links seem positively cute and cuddly.

[GreenLightning]

Narco terrorism. Makes the sports’ earlier “mob” links seem positively cute and cuddly.

That's the thing, there's "dodgy" characters and general scumbags and there are mass murdering lunatics poisoning the country, a lot of the heroin in Scotlands bad areas come through the Kinahans, Paramilitaries from both sides in the North get their guns and drugs from the Kinahans, guns from murders not directly linked to the Kinahans can be traced back to batches bought FROM the Kinahans, communities are being destroyed and people are deathly afraid to speak out against them, people who brush this off by saying "boxing has always been in bed with the mob" and "he doesn;t have a criminal record" are either spectacularly naive or they;ve watched Goodfellas a few to many times and think Kinahan is a cool dude

[GreenLightning]

Ben Davson on twitter saying Journalists are just trying to build a career off Kinahans name

Yeah, if I want easy publicity and money I'd go public against one of the biggest and violent criminal gangs in Europe

It worked out for Veronica Guerin after all

"From 1994 onwards, she began to write about criminals for the Sunday Independent.[2] Using her accountancy knowledge to trace the proceeds of illegal activity, she used street names or pseudonyms for underworld figures to avoid Irish libel laws.[7][8]

When she began to cover drug dealers, and gained information from convicted drugs criminal John Traynor, she received numerous death threats. The first violence against her occurred in October 1994, when two shots were fired into her home after her story on murdered crime kingpin Martin Cahill was published. Guerin dismissed the "warning". The day after writing an article on Gerry "The Monk" Hutch,[9] on 30 January 1995, she answered her doorbell to a man pointing a revolver at her head. The gunman missed and shot her in the leg. Regardless, she vowed to continue her investigations. Independent Newspapers installed a security system to protect her, and the Gardaí gave her a 24-hour escort; however, she did not approve of this, saying that it hampered her work.[citation needed]

On 13 September 1995, convicted criminal John Gilligan, Traynor's boss, attacked her when she confronted him about his lavish lifestyle with no source of income.[9] He later called her at home and threatened to kidnap and rape her son, and kill her if she wrote anything about him.[8][10]

Guerin received the International Press Freedom Award from the Committee to Protect Journalists in December 1995.[8]

Murder
On the evening of 25 June 1996, Gilligan drug gang members Charles Bowden, Brian Meehan, Kieran 'Muscles' Concannon, Peter Mitchell and Paul Ward met at their distribution premises on the Greenmount Industrial Estate. Bowden, the gang's distributor and ammunition quartermaster, supplied the three with a Colt Python revolver loaded with .357 Magnum Semiwadcutter bullets.[11][dead link] On 26 June 1996, while driving her red Opel Calibra, Guerin stopped at a red traffic light on the Naas Dual Carriageway near Newlands Cross, on the outskirts of Dublin, unaware she was being followed. She was shot six times, fatally, by one of two men sitting on a motorcycle.[12]

[GreenLightning]

According to Guerin, Gilligans exact words on the phone were "I'm going to kidnap your son, and I'm gonna ride him"

[margaret thatcher]

ben davison loves himself some kinihan

[Stevieaber]

A lot of the MTK fighters / staff seem to feel very positively towards the well loved Dubai based businessman who has no links to MTK whatsoever.

[mickey1975]

ben davison loves himself some kinihan

Because without him he’d be a PT at Pure.

[Offthehook]

ben davison loves himself some kinihan

Because without him he’d be a PT at Pure.

you underestimate him....I think ben davison is a very clever man, just like froch and groves....he easily could of been a doctor

[Ruthless-RKO]

Hearn said there’s no change.

[handsofstone]

If any of the MTK fighters have brains they'd keep well away from social media just now