Very little doubt about that.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑08 Mar 2021, 19:06They're American based fighters. I think I mentioned this on an earlier post. They're all permanent full-time residents of the US.gilgamesh wrote: ↑08 Mar 2021, 18:15I didn't say they weren't American Citizens, but I don't think they'd necessarily be thought of as American Fighters seeing as how the majority of their skills were surely honed in the Countries of their Origin.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑08 Mar 2021, 10:01
From a commercial perspective, the USA continues to be boxing “home”, which explains the reason why so many (if not most) fighters and their families (especially those from poorer countries) choose to permanently reside there.
If you firmly believe that immigrants that lawfully achieve permanent residence in the US cannot be considered as being American citizens (or permanently US-based), then that your prerogative.
Regardless, when you consider the fact that more than half of today’s top 100 fighters permanently reside on American shores (with a lot of the men included in my list actually born there), then it’s a tad silly for someone (like the person who created this thread) to wrongfully claim that it’s “officially game over for USA in pro boxing” when their top welterweights eventually relinquish dominance over the welterweight division.
The USA will continue being boxing’s home, simply because that country stages the vast majority of marquee bouts and most top-tier world-rated fighters live there.
Rigondeaux for instance was a 2x Olympic Gold Medalist before ever coming here. I think it's safe to say he'd learned a great deal of the skills that took him to the top before he lived here.
Let's not forget that the person who created this thread is pretending that it's “officially game over for USA in pro boxing” when their top welterweights eventually relinquish dominance over the welterweight division.
However, the vast majority of the sports' biggest names all permanently reside in the US.
I think we basically agree on this subject matter. But if a fighter and their families permanently reside in America, then regardless of their country of origin, they're US-based fighters that'll probably remain in that country for the remainder of their lives.
I just figure ultimately the Fighters original origin is where the credit normally belongs as far as his achievements in the sport. Though Australians tend to proudly claim Kostya Tszyu so I suppose there are exceptions.