Well hell it goes without saying Wilder will have a confidence building warm up fight. That's what the majority of his career has been. Confidence builders.Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑09 Mar 2021, 13:24A long layoff is more damaging mentally after a devastating loss, though. A confidence-building warm-up fight would help.
But Tyson Fury has recently expressed concern about his own long layoff.
How will the long layoff after a devastating loss affect Deontay Wilder?
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Re: How will the long layoff after a devastating loss affect Deontay Wilder?
34 confidence builders at my count. Problem is Gil, he still wants big money to fight anyone, and doesn't realise his stocks have plummeted and no one wants to pay for anything less tha Fury or Joshua.gilgamesh wrote: ↑09 Mar 2021, 13:50Well hell it goes without saying Wilder will have a confidence building warm up fight. That's what the majority of his career has been. Confidence builders.Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑09 Mar 2021, 13:24A long layoff is more damaging mentally after a devastating loss, though. A confidence-building warm-up fight would help.
But Tyson Fury has recently expressed concern about his own long layoff.
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Re: How will the long layoff after a devastating loss affect Deontay Wilder?
True, but Wilder should have something scheduled or at least in the works by now.gilgamesh wrote: ↑09 Mar 2021, 13:50Well hell it goes without saying Wilder will have a confidence building warm up fight. That's what the majority of his career has been. Confidence builders.Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑09 Mar 2021, 13:24A long layoff is more damaging mentally after a devastating loss, though. A confidence-building warm-up fight would help.
But Tyson Fury has recently expressed concern about his own long layoff.
Some say he should fight Charles Martin, I think that would be a relatively easy fight for him. Adam Kownacki is the stationary, easy to hit type of heavyweight Wilder thrives against, and is coming off a stoppage loss. Andy Ruiz has a good chin and would be too dangerous, and Ruiz is going to fight Arreola anyway.
Re: How will the long layoff after a devastating loss affect Deontay Wilder?
He's still an Al Haymon fighter. Al Haymon overpays everyone for everything. He'll probably get big money to fight Kownacki or someone like that.KiwiRider wrote: ↑09 Mar 2021, 14:3434 confidence builders at my count. Problem is Gil, he still wants big money to fight anyone, and doesn't realise his stocks have plummeted and no one wants to pay for anything less tha Fury or Joshua.gilgamesh wrote: ↑09 Mar 2021, 13:50Well hell it goes without saying Wilder will have a confidence building warm up fight. That's what the majority of his career has been. Confidence builders.Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑09 Mar 2021, 13:24 A long layoff is more damaging mentally after a devastating loss, though. A confidence-building warm-up fight would help.
But Tyson Fury has recently expressed concern about his own long layoff.
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Re: How will the long layoff after a devastating loss affect Deontay Wilder?
i think he's still rehabilitating his costume shattered knees
Re: How will the long layoff after a devastating loss affect Deontay Wilder?
I would really like to see wilder vs andy ruiz , this would be a real test for them both but in different ways .
The styles are so very opposed and both can bang but I feel Ruiz would copy what fury did and batter him to the canvas .
I apprecioate they both need rebuild fights next but later this year maybe ...
The styles are so very opposed and both can bang but I feel Ruiz would copy what fury did and batter him to the canvas .
I apprecioate they both need rebuild fights next but later this year maybe ...
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Re: How will the long layoff after a devastating loss affect Deontay Wilder?
Wilder will fight twice this year.
He'll initially engage in a tune-up against either Robert Helenius or Charles Martin, before facing Andy Ruiz Jr. towards the end of the year.
I wouldn't be surprised to see both of Wilder (vs. Martin or Helenius) and Ruiz Jr's (vs. Arreola) tune-up's occurring around the same date (perhaps even appearing on the same card) to help promote their eventual end-of-year showdown.
He'll initially engage in a tune-up against either Robert Helenius or Charles Martin, before facing Andy Ruiz Jr. towards the end of the year.
I wouldn't be surprised to see both of Wilder (vs. Martin or Helenius) and Ruiz Jr's (vs. Arreola) tune-up's occurring around the same date (perhaps even appearing on the same card) to help promote their eventual end-of-year showdown.
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Re: How will the long layoff after a devastating loss affect Deontay Wilder?
That would be good for the heavyweight division, if it happens.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑10 Mar 2021, 10:42 Wilder will fight twice this year.
He'll initially engage in a tune-up against either Robert Helenius or Charles Martin, before facing Andy Ruiz Jr. towards the end of the year.
I wouldn't be surprised to see both of Wilder (vs. Martin or Helenius) and Ruiz Jr's (vs. Arreola) tune-up's occurring around the same date (perhaps even appearing on the same card) to help promote their eventual end-of-year showdown.
But Wilder has a history of being very carefully matched, I doubt his management would put him in with someone as dangerous as Ruiz.
However, I can imagine Wilder being matched against someone easier like Martin or Helenius.
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Re: How will the long layoff after a devastating loss affect Deontay Wilder?
In order to persuade the mainstream masses that Wilder’s upset loss to Fury was simply a one-off, a rare fluke, he needs to rebuild his reputation by beating one of the heavyweight divisions top-dog’s.Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑10 Mar 2021, 20:13That would be good for the heavyweight division, if it happens.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑10 Mar 2021, 10:42 Wilder will fight twice this year.
He'll initially engage in a tune-up against either Robert Helenius or Charles Martin, before facing Andy Ruiz Jr. towards the end of the year.
I wouldn't be surprised to see both of Wilder (vs. Martin or Helenius) and Ruiz Jr's (vs. Arreola) tune-up's occurring around the same date (perhaps even appearing on the same card) to help promote their eventual end-of-year showdown.
But Wilder has a history of being very carefully matched, I doubt his management would put him in with someone as dangerous as Ruiz.
However, I can imagine Wilder being matched against someone easier like Martin or Helenius.
And facing a fellow stablemate like Ruiz Jr. perfectly fits the bill.
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Re: How will the long layoff after a devastating loss affect Deontay Wilder?
He will fight martin
Then when the inevitable stripping of a title happens from joshua/fury he will fight for an open title
Then when the inevitable stripping of a title happens from joshua/fury he will fight for an open title
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Re: How will the long layoff after a devastating loss affect Deontay Wilder?
Both Wilder and Ruiz are done, imo. Ruiz is too lazy and too happy with what he already has, look at his shape in Joshua II fight. Also, he is a one-dimensional fighter. Nobody decent will let him repeat what he did to AJ.stevec@france wrote: ↑10 Mar 2021, 06:31 I would really like to see wilder vs andy ruiz , this would be a real test for them both but in different ways .
The styles are so very opposed and both can bang but I feel Ruiz would copy what fury did and batter him to the canvas .
I apprecioate they both need rebuild fights next but later this year maybe ...![]()
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Re: How will the long layoff after a devastating loss affect Deontay Wilder?
Apart from Fury/Joshua, this would be my dream fight at HW right now.stevec@france wrote: ↑10 Mar 2021, 06:31 I would really like to see wilder vs andy ruiz , this would be a real test for them both but in different ways .
The styles are so very opposed and both can bang but I feel Ruiz would copy what fury did and batter him to the canvas .
I apprecioate they both need rebuild fights next but later this year maybe ...![]()
Great contrasting styles; chin v puncher; skill v one dimensional KO artist; fat v thin, etc etc.
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Re: How will the long layoff after a devastating loss affect Deontay Wilder?
Now we are approaching the end of April, and still no fight for Wilder in the works.
Perhaps he's retired?
Perhaps he's retired?
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Re: How will the long layoff after a devastating loss affect Deontay Wilder?
He recently just said he will continue with his career.Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑22 Apr 2021, 20:58 Now we are approaching the end of April, and still no fight for Wilder in the works.
Perhaps he's retired?
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Re: How will the long layoff after a devastating loss affect Deontay Wilder?
who will he be training with now that he ditched that evil spy mark breland?
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I wonder if Charlo will be invited to Deontay's next fightmargaret thatcher wrote: ↑22 Apr 2021, 22:02 who will he be training with now that he ditched that evil spy mark breland?
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Is this another interview with one of his mates?Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 Apr 2021, 22:01He recently just said he will continue with his career.Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑22 Apr 2021, 20:58 Now we are approaching the end of April, and still no fight for Wilder in the works.
Perhaps he's retired?
If he fights again, it'll be someone terrified of him or a PBC stablemate contractually obliged to not chide Wilder for his bad sportsmanship, lack of character and childish, malicious lying. Stick him in with somebody like Dillian Whyte, who's reasonably quick witted and will put it on him and he won't be able to get through a press conference without some sort of meltdown.
I'd imagine his ideal comeback opponent can't speak a word of English and doesn't have a translator.
I'd happily have him back, but he's a heel now with an especially odious fanbase and so people would be tuning in to see him lose. Ironically, it'll probably make him a must watch and no matter how poor the opponent all eyes will be on his return, but he's too feeble minded to have orchestrated it to be that way.
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Re: How will the long layoff after a devastating loss affect Deontay Wilder?
I’m hoping he fights Ruiz , and starts as a favourite . Ruiz is going to outlast him.
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Re: How will the long layoff after a devastating loss affect Deontay Wilder?
Ruiz would be too dangerous.Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑23 Apr 2021, 05:53 I’m hoping he fights Ruiz , and starts as a favourite . Ruiz is going to outlast him.
Old Sam Peter is a more likely opponent.
Re: How will the long layoff after a devastating loss affect Deontay Wilder?
Emallini seems a weird poster but I do agree with him here. That guy could knock out anybody if his head isn't too wrecked. If he got himself a good trainer and was battle ready, he's an absolute nightmare for anybody in the top 10.
I don't think he'll fight again though. So it's null and void.
Re: How will the long layoff after a devastating loss affect Deontay Wilder?
Wilder Stiverne IIIJeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑10 Mar 2021, 22:32 He will fight martin
Then when the inevitable stripping of a title happens from joshua/fury he will fight for an open title
I shouldn't even joke about that..
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Re: How will the long layoff after a devastating loss affect Deontay Wilder?
Hahaha its been a few months i think stiverne deserves another crack at the title!KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Apr 2021, 19:44Wilder Stiverne IIIJeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑10 Mar 2021, 22:32 He will fight martin
Then when the inevitable stripping of a title happens from joshua/fury he will fight for an open title
I shouldn't even joke about that..
Re: How will the long layoff after a devastating loss affect Deontay Wilder?
Maybe they'll be another Haymon - King hook-up in the form of Trevor Bryan being thrown to the wolvesJeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑23 Apr 2021, 20:44Hahaha its been a few months i think stiverne deserves another crack at the title!KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Apr 2021, 19:44Wilder Stiverne IIIJeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑10 Mar 2021, 22:32 He will fight martin
Then when the inevitable stripping of a title happens from joshua/fury he will fight for an open title
I shouldn't even joke about that..
Re: How will the long layoff after a devastating loss affect Deontay Wilder?
That seems likely.Finkel wrote: ↑24 Apr 2021, 01:33Maybe they'll be another Haymon - King hook-up in the form of Trevor Bryan being thrown to the wolvesJeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑23 Apr 2021, 20:44Hahaha its been a few months i think stiverne deserves another crack at the title!