Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Roman Gonzalez II - March 13, 2021

Who wins a rematch?

Poll ended at 14 Mar 2021, 06:53

Estrada - Decision
3
16%
Estrada - T/KO
4
21%
DRAW
2
11%
Gonzalez - T/KO
1
5%
Gonzalez - Decision
9
47%
 
Total votes: 19

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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Roman Gonzalez II - March 13, 2021

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10 Days...

Good card this.
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Roman Gonzalez II - March 13, 2021

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14-Day Weights: Estrada 120-Pounds, Chocolatito 120.6-Pounds

Estrada and Gonzalez will be required to weigh within 3% of the contracted limit at the 7-day mark before making the 115-pound limit at the official pre-fight weigh-in.
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Roman Gonzalez II - March 13, 2021

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Seven-Day Weights:

Estrada 118-Pounds, Chocolatito 118.2-Pounds
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Roman Gonzalez II - March 13, 2021

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Looking forward to this one a lot.
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Roman Gonzalez II - March 13, 2021

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squiggy wrote: 06 Mar 2021, 21:20 Looking forward to this one a lot.
Yeah boy! It’s officially fight week!
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Roman Gonzalez II - March 13, 2021

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Lovely stuff!! A fun card all round!
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Roman Gonzalez II - March 13, 2021

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It’s Chocolatito-Estrada rematch week

Roman “Chocolatito” Gonzalez and Juan Francisco “El Gallo” Estrada will collide again on Saturday in Dallas, nine years after they first fought in 2012 in the light flyweight division. Gonzalez won that one by unanimous decision. Entering this rematch, “Chocolatito” (50-2, 41 KOs) is the WBA super flyweight champion while “El Gallo” (41-3, 28 KOs) is the WBC champion. The fight will take place at the American Airlines Center in Dallas, Texas, and be televised on DAZN.

Who is going to win this time? Sportsbooks list Estrada as a -175 favorite, with Gonzalez backers getting +155. Estrada opened at -200, so the odds are tightening as the bout approaches. Estrada is 30, while Chocolatito is 33.
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Roman Gonzalez II - March 13, 2021

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Quality match up.
This should be a good fight.
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Roman Gonzalez II - March 13, 2021

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Really excited for this weekend. Planning to re-watch Estrada v. Gonzalez I later this week.
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Should be 5k in attendance..

Tickets still on sales
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Judges, Referee Named For Championship Rematch

Referee: Luis Pabón (Puerto Rico)

Judges
Carlos Súcre (Florida)
David Sutherland (Oklahoma)
Jesse Reyes (Texas).
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Mar 2021, 13:56 Should be 5k in attendance..

Tickets still on sales
Just grabbed two nice seats. $100 each.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 10 Mar 2021, 13:09
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Mar 2021, 13:56 Should be 5k in attendance..

Tickets still on sales
Just grabbed two nice seats. $100 each.
Nice.. enjoy.
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Roman Gonzalez II - March 13, 2021

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 10 Mar 2021, 17:39
Onetimeonly wrote: 10 Mar 2021, 13:09
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Mar 2021, 13:56 Should be 5k in attendance..

Tickets still on sales
Just grabbed two nice seats. $100 each.
Nice.. enjoy.
Thanks, I will. Hopefully no mask.
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Roman Gonzalez II - March 13, 2021

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Gonzalez have enough left?
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Roman Gonzalez II - March 13, 2021

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Live Weigh in - 1pm ET | 8pm UK

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Predictions

Scott Christ (10-4-1)

I have gone back and forth, forth and back, round and round trying to decide on a winner in this fight. We wanted to see it for years, then the idea was that Chocolatito was probably past it, and then he showed he’s not, and we’re right back to this being a great fight again.

They’ve both got world titles, you could argue them as 1-2 in the division, or at the very least two of a very strong top four. I think most have felt for a while that Estrada beats Gonzalez in a rematch, but I watch them fight still and I think I lean toward the Nicaraguan great still. Estrada got taken to hell before stopping Carlos Cuadras — a very good fighter at his best, mind you — last time out, and I think there was a lot in that fight where Gonzalez can look at what Cuadras did well and execute it even better. I think he’s still the better fighter in close quarters, and Estrada isn’t some monster puncher or anything, he’s not feather-fisted at all but I don’t see his raw power making the difference. This is a rare matchup: two top fighters, fighting for legacy and current standing, in a matchup you could reasonably see going either way. However it turns out, savor it. Gonzalez UD-12

Wil Esco (10-4-1)

It’s good to have good fights back on the schedule. It feels like forever ago that Chocolatito was reigning as pound-for-pound king, only to be stomped into the ground by Srisaket Sor Rungvisai a few years ago. Of course Chocolatito would also lose his longtime trainer, which obviously affected him, but my biggest concern about him now is age and attrition. Gonzalez has had a really good career but I can’t help but think that although he’s still very skilled, he’s a diminished version of himself. There’s something to be said about getting long in the tooth, and I think Chocolatito is in that category.

None of that is to say that Chocolatito isn’t still capable of beating plenty of good fighters, but in this particular fight I just think Gonzalez will have the edge in a fight that should feature plenty of action. But as the rounds and punishment wears on both fighters, I think Estrada will be better suited to tough it out down the stretch. I’ll take Estrada to win by decision. Estrada UD-12

Patrick L. Stumberg (10-4-1)

As this fight percolated these last few years, the prevailing theory seemed to be that Estrada could capitalize on Gonzalez’s decline to even the score. Frankly, I’m not convinced. Rumors of “Chocolatito’s” demise were greatly exaggerated; though still unable to cause the sort of devastation he wreaked against smaller opposition, he looked every bit the pound-for-pound monster of old in last year’s victories over Kal Yafai. You also have to remember that Estrada, who’s just three years younger than the supposed elder statesman before him, has had his fair share of wars as well in addition to some persistent hand injuries.

Based on their most recent performances, I have to favor “Chocolatito.” I genuinely believe he can bully Estrada the way Carlos Cuadras did in the latter two’s epic rematch, and his ability to do damage in the pocket still outstrips “El Gallo’s.” In what may be the last great fight these two have in them, Gonzalez steadily overpowers Estrada to make it 2-0. Gonzalez UD-12

Lewis Watson (10-4-1)

I love this fight. We all love this fight. Instead of rattling on for 1000s of unnecessary characters, I’m going to keep this one short and sweet. Choco is my guy, and I honestly think that the way he has naturally faded won’t impact his chances as much as Estrada. Sure, Choco has three years on “El Gallo” but unless the Mexican can use his once-perfect feet in getting out of range from Gonzalez’s front-foot pressure, then I can see Gonzalez taking the second half of the fight as he continues to bomb forward and throw timber. SSR had his number – it happens – but he’s looked sharp and aggressive ever since and he’s still shown the ability to throw punch after punch over the distance. Estrada is fantastic and is arguably the more suited to the weight, but he’s also seen his share of wars and my gut is telling me Choco could break him down the stretch. But what do I know. What do any of us know. All I know is that this is gonna be a banger and I can’t wait. Gonzalez MD-12

And the staff winner is...

Roman “Chocolatito” Gonzalez (3-1)!
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Roman Gonzalez II - March 13, 2021

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Two of my favorite fighters. If they were the same age, at the same point in their careers, it would say Gonzalez an 8-4, maybe 9-3 decision. He's a better all around-boxer, IMO. But this feels a little bit like a changing-of-the-guard fight and I can see Estrada winning by close decision, maybe late, cut-eye stoppage. If el Chocolatito wins he belongs at #2 PFP (I know boxrec doesn't give as much weight - no pun intended - to the lightest weight fighters but both fighters have tremendous resumes, much better than, say Tyson Fury, who is #2 on boxrec, or Anthony Joshua, who is #4)
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Roman Gonzalez II - March 13, 2021

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giacomino wrote: 12 Mar 2021, 12:13 Two of my favorite fighters. If they were the same age, at the same point in their careers, it would say Gonzalez an 8-4, maybe 9-3 decision. He's a better all around-boxer, IMO. But this feels a little bit like a changing-of-the-guard fight and I can see Estrada winning by close decision, maybe late, cut-eye stoppage. If el Chocolatito wins he belongs at #2 PFP (I know boxrec doesn't give as much weight - no pun intended - to the lightest weight fighters but both fighters have tremendous resumes, much better than, say Tyson Fury, who is #2 on boxrec, or Anthony Joshua, who is #4)
If Gonzalez wins he has a strong case for goat under bantam.
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Roman Gonzalez II - March 13, 2021

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I like Estrada by TKO in this fight.
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Roman Gonzalez II - March 13, 2021

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Super flyweight's been an embarrassment of riches these last five or six years. Gonzalez, Wangek, Estrada, and Cuadras have fought each other in almost every combination, sometimes more than once. Also Ioka, Nietes, now Tanaka... I really wish Inoue had mixed it up with some of those guys before moving up, though.
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Roman Gonzalez II - March 13, 2021

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Both weighed an identical 114.8 pounds.
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Roman Gonzalez II - March 13, 2021

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‘Cuadras bullied Estrada in the rematch’, what fight was that guy watching?
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Re: Juan Francisco Estrada vs. Roman Gonzalez II - March 13, 2021

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It's interesting, Gonzalez is winning in polls. I'm pretty sure, Estrada wins confidently. These are different times for them both.
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