Must eat him he got beat by Bill
Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
I guess CEJ feels he mighta stopped BJS in his "first real fight" if he'd had more experience. And that was @ MW.
But then again, the only people to really bother Canelo have been boxer/mover types...
But then again, the only people to really bother Canelo have been boxer/mover types...
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coghaugen11
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Why? He was a raw novice with very little amateur background, first started boxing a couple of years before (Saunders had 20y exp) and gave away the first six just standing there. It was one-way traffic from there. First six were close and cagey, next six were dominating CEJr rounds.
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mickey1975
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coghaugen11
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
He’s very powerful but doesn’t place the punches to the right spots (point of chin or temple) or throw as a counter or off a feint IE opponent not seeing shot coming unable to brace
The time he got in and threw with an opponent he took them out clean (Yildrim) instead of jumping in swinging or teeing off on a braced opponent
The time he got in and threw with an opponent he took them out clean (Yildrim) instead of jumping in swinging or teeing off on a braced opponent
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Twinkle Toes
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
For me Saunders sneaked by Eubank. I had him by one round. He was terrible in the second half of the fight and against a self trained novice.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
And he still boxes like a raw novicecoghaugen11 wrote: ↑05 May 2021, 05:20Why? He was a raw novice with very little amateur background, first started boxing a couple of years before (Saunders had 20y exp) and gave away the first six just standing there. It was one-way traffic from there. First six were close and cagey, next six were dominating CEJr rounds.
That's why he jacked it from GGG,Eubank Jnr is as full as s**t as anyone,talking himself up then underwhelming all the time,posting stupid videos of him beating on sparring partners like a Gym fighter,
Easy to say this an that and what you would and wouldn't do when talking about professional boxing from ya home but Jnr ain't going nowhere fast and is just too showy for me
Only success he had was when Billyjoe starting fighting with him instead of boxing with him
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bigjack
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
More fool Saunders then,he was also knackeredOiky wrote: ↑05 May 2021, 06:36And he still boxes like a raw novicecoghaugen11 wrote: ↑05 May 2021, 05:20Why? He was a raw novice with very little amateur background, first started boxing a couple of years before (Saunders had 20y exp) and gave away the first six just standing there. It was one-way traffic from there. First six were close and cagey, next six were dominating CEJr rounds.
That's why he jacked it from GGG,Eubank Jnr is as full as s**t as anyone,talking himself up then underwhelming all the time,posting stupid videos of him beating on sparring partners like a Gym fighter,
Easy to say this an that and what you would and wouldn't do when talking about professional boxing from ya home but Jnr ain't going nowhere fast and is just too showy for me
Only success he had was when Billyjoe starting fighting with him instead of boxing with him
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
So it is fine when people on forums shit on Saunders from their sofa but an actual boxer does it and the same people are crying about it? Hilarious
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Not really more fool anybodybigjack wrote: ↑05 May 2021, 06:42More fool Saunders then,he was also knackeredOiky wrote: ↑05 May 2021, 06:36And he still boxes like a raw novicecoghaugen11 wrote: ↑05 May 2021, 05:20
Why? He was a raw novice with very little amateur background, first started boxing a couple of years before (Saunders had 20y exp) and gave away the first six just standing there. It was one-way traffic from there. First six were close and cagey, next six were dominating CEJr rounds.
That's why he jacked it from GGG,Eubank Jnr is as full as s**t as anyone,talking himself up then underwhelming all the time,posting stupid videos of him beating on sparring partners like a Gym fighter,
Easy to say this an that and what you would and wouldn't do when talking about professional boxing from ya home but Jnr ain't going nowhere fast and is just too showy for me
Only success he had was when Billyjoe starting fighting with him instead of boxing with him
Maybe that's how you see it,I just see it for what it is,both couldn't stick each other and emotions got the better of Billyjoe for a time
Yeah Bill was tiring and Jnr still couldn't do much with him
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bigjack
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Apart from win the last 6 rounds and win on one scorecard ? you have to think when they met Jnr was a raw novice,Saunders ex olympian and multiple champion and it was a split decisionOiky wrote: ↑05 May 2021, 07:04Not really more fool anybodybigjack wrote: ↑05 May 2021, 06:42More fool Saunders then,he was also knackeredOiky wrote: ↑05 May 2021, 06:36
And he still boxes like a raw novice
That's why he jacked it from GGG,Eubank Jnr is as full as s**t as anyone,talking himself up then underwhelming all the time,posting stupid videos of him beating on sparring partners like a Gym fighter,
Easy to say this an that and what you would and wouldn't do when talking about professional boxing from ya home but Jnr ain't going nowhere fast and is just too showy for me
Only success he had was when Billyjoe starting fighting with him instead of boxing with him![]()
Maybe that's how you see it,I just see it for what it is,both couldn't stick each other and emotions got the better of Billyjoe for a time
Yeah Bill was tiring and Jnr still couldn't do much with him
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Yeah claimed the 6rnds and the SD but in terms of getting Bill out of there he wasn't much cop at all,yeah he was a raw novice,still nothing humble about him and rematch wouldn't even be closebigjack wrote: ↑05 May 2021, 07:10Apart from win the last 6 rounds and win on one scorecard ? you have to think when they met Jnr was a raw novice,Saunders ex olympian and multiple champion and it was a split decision
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bigjack
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Why would Jnr failing to stop Saunders be looked upon as a failure on Eubanks part,nobody has ever come remotely close to doing thatOiky wrote: ↑05 May 2021, 07:16Yeah claimed the 6rnds and the SD but in terms of getting Bill out of there he wasn't much cop at all,yeah he was a raw novice,still nothing humble about him and rematch wouldn't even be close
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Wasn't a failure was it,just a loss in a boxing match,a loss that I reckon gets to him everything billyjoe is brought upbigjack wrote: ↑05 May 2021, 07:21Why would Jnr failing to stop Saunders be looked upon as a failure on Eubanks part,nobody has ever come remotely close to doing that
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mickey1975
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Billy wasn't even fit. Its was Jrs dream to fight someone so good.
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bigjack
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
He should have been fit,very nearly blew it to a novicemickey1975 wrote: ↑05 May 2021, 07:29 Billy wasn't even fit. Its was Jrs dream to fight someone so good.
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Ruthless-RKO
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Yeh, no excuse for a professional really.bigjack wrote: ↑05 May 2021, 07:32He should have been fit,very nearly blew it to a novicemickey1975 wrote: ↑05 May 2021, 07:29 Billy wasn't even fit. Its was Jrs dream to fight someone so good.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Regardless,a win is a win
Lots of times Bill should of done a bit more in camp,still,he's got the W's and he's where he's at now
Lots of times Bill should of done a bit more in camp,still,he's got the W's and he's where he's at now
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bigjack
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mickey1975
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
I don't know why we bother mate. You're a Romany, im friends with a few, so we are BJS arse lickers.... Same men had Callum Smith down as best thing since sliced bread 6 month ago.
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Ruthless-RKO
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Really good turnaround for Canelo’s career. like he only fought Smith a few months ago. We talking 5 months ago, and he fought once since then too.
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bigjack
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Activity might be the difference hereRuthless-RKO wrote: ↑05 May 2021, 08:07Really good turnaround for Canelo’s career. like he only fought Smith a few months ago. We talking 5 months ago, and he fought once since then too.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Well BJS SHOULD have done more in camps - because he's been very lucky not to have 2 losses on his record to guys w/o a fraction of his class.
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GreenLightning
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Ryder fight was close