Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Should BJS quit after Canelo's cheerful mocking and after talking about Dubois?

No, BJS should've at least run around the ring and tried to survive for the rest of the rounds
4
10%
Yes, BJS should've quit, and he should apologize for trash talking to Canelo and Dubois
21
53%
Yes, BJS should've quit, but he doesn't need to apologize for anything
15
38%
 
Total votes: 40

Tevfik1907
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Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Post by Tevfik1907 »

Quitting after this is the problem;



Not even mention about BJS's earlier comments about Dubois, and Joyce didn't do this to Dubois when he knew Dubois is going to lose.

When Ali's eyes were burning and couldn't see Sonny Liston due to blinding powder, Dundee told Ali; ''Run until you can see clearly again.'', so Ali run for a couple of rounds and tried to survive against one of the most fearsome boxers in the history.

BJS asked for a big size ring before the fight with Canelo, and even made an issue about this, so he could ''run around the ring'' freely when he likes ...

Just run then... Especially after all that trash talk and talk about Dubois. Why did you ask for a big ring?
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DrDuke
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Re: Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Post by DrDuke »

BJS did a right thing with quitting, now he at least remains with both eyes.

He shouldn't apologize, bad mofos don't do it.
dickbelden
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Re: Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Post by dickbelden »

hopefully he can fight again---great effort by BJS !
emallini
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Re: Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Post by emallini »

Boxed well Bill
Boxing Prospect
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Re: Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Post by Boxing Prospect »

Pulling out in the corner isn't the problem here. Being a complete pudendum is.
NateJR
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Re: Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Post by NateJR »

I feel he should have stayed in there like a warrior and tried to finish the fight. That's me as a combat sports fan, but then again I'm not the one that was getting my ass kicked either.

It doesn't matter anyways, we will never see BJS fight again.
oogiebe
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Re: Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Post by oogiebe »

Boxing Prospect wrote: 10 May 2021, 16:28 Pulling out in the corner isn't the problem here. Being a complete pudendum is.
^^this^^
littlepug
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Re: Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Post by littlepug »

emallini wrote: 10 May 2021, 13:56 Boxed well Bill
He was a defending world champion, he certainly didn’t box like one.
margaret thatcher
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Re: Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Post by margaret thatcher »

i dont really get this thread

you mean he shouldve fought in survival mode?

well i mean he pretty much stopped throwing and was focused entirely on not getting hit by that point
xeo7
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Re: Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Post by xeo7 »

littlepug wrote: 10 May 2021, 17:09
emallini wrote: 10 May 2021, 13:56 Boxed well Bill
He was a defending world champion, he certainly didn’t box like one.

He did !!! What you think you witnessed is not what happened

What happed is that BJS put in a GREAT performance.. typically when he’s on his game.. against an Elite athlete.

The difference here, is that Canelo made him look like he was struggling at times, and later on it was looking almost obvious he was able to dial it up ANYTIME. Which he did with one punch. That’s all it took.

THATS the clear difference between a talented World champion, vs a true Elite multiple world champ.

Talent vs Exceptional talent.

Buncey and Costello talked a lot about how well he was doing at points etc, but it’s almost irrelevant chat..

I just wish his next fight was vs a PRIME Mayweather.
littlepug
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Re: Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Post by littlepug »

xeo7 wrote: 10 May 2021, 17:42
littlepug wrote: 10 May 2021, 17:09
emallini wrote: 10 May 2021, 13:56 Boxed well Bill
He was a defending world champion, he certainly didn’t box like one.

He did !!! What you think you witnessed is not what happened

What happed is that BJS put in a GREAT performance.. typically when he’s on his game.. against an Elite athlete.

The difference here, is that Canelo made him look like he was struggling at times, and later on it was looking almost obvious he was able to dial it up ANYTIME. Which he did with one punch. That’s all it took.

THATS the clear difference between a talented World champion, vs a true Elite multiple world champ.

Talent vs Exceptional talent.

Buncey and Costello talked a lot about how well he was doing at points etc, but it’s almost irrelevant chat..

I just wish his next fight was vs a PRIME Mayweather.
Just hate all this “he did well” talk when all he did was stay in the fight, is that what we give praise for now ? Not even having a real go ? It’s all gone a bit snowflakey for me, giving him a pat on the back because Canelo gave him a couple of rounds and then getting pulled out without any protest whatsoever, I’m sorry but the bar is set higher that that, we know it’s set higher because we’ve bloody seen it with our own eyes over the years, so don’t try and take a fainthearted attempt ending in a whimper and sell it to me as a warrior going out on his shield because I’m not buying it.
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Re: Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Post by Finkel »

Tevfik1907 wrote: 10 May 2021, 13:36 Quitting after this is the problem;



Not even mention about BJS's earlier comments about Dubois, Dubois at least didn't trash talk to Joe Joyce and Joyce didn't do this to Dubois when he knew Dubois is going to lose.

When Ali's eyes were burning and couldn't see Sonny Liston due to blinding powder, Dundee told Ali; ''Run until you can see clearly again.'', so Ali run for a couple of rounds and tried to survive against one of the most fearsome boxers in the history.

BJS asked for a big size ring before the fight with Canelo, and even made an issue about this, so he could ''run around the ring'' freely when he likes ...

Just run then... Especially after all that trash talk and talk about Dubois. Why did you ask for a big ring?
Wtf

People have very short memories. I have noticed how everyone online has reworked history on this to make Dubois into an innocent babe

Does no one recall Dubois trying to manufacture some needle before the Joyce fight and made a joke about Joyce's mom's blindness?


gregregegg
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Re: Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Post by gregregegg »

Good quit, dosent need to apologise to canelo teasing p4p number 1 money man who just broke your face... I’m sure canelo will be fine and it made the fight fun anyway.

Probably owes DDD an “I’m sorry” and judging by the way he carries himself many many more people.
fanman
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Re: Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Post by fanman »

Harsh but fair littlepug.
It was a good effort, but ultimately unsuccessful, and I guess humiliating really.

I think B.js boxed as well as he could, but was not at that super-elite level. It will be tough for him to come back from the injury.
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Re: Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Post by H8Usernames »

What a bunch of retards. Apologize this and that. How about you lowlifes apologize instead? Someone is going to feel so warm and fuzzy if you do. While we are at it lets try these.

I apologize for calling you morons retarded.
I apologize for calling you lowlifes morons.
And I apologize for calling you retarded morons lowlifes.

The bad person repented and apologized, I bet some people are now feeling all fuzzy and warm inside.
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Re: Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Post by oogiebe »

H8Usernames wrote: 10 May 2021, 21:43 What a bunch of retards. Apologize this and that. How about you lowlifes apologize instead? Someone is going to feel so warm and fuzzy if you do. While we are at it lets try these.

I apologize for calling you morons retarded.
I apologize for calling you lowlifes morons.
And I apologize for calling you retarded morons lowlifes.

The bad person repented and apologized, I bet some people are now feeling all fuzzy and warm inside.
I'm sorry i read your post. :OhYes:
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Re: Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Post by candyslim »

Tevfik1907 wrote: 10 May 2021, 13:36 Quitting after this is the problem;



Not even mention about BJS's earlier comments about Dubois, Dubois at least didn't trash talk to Joe Joyce and Joyce didn't do this to Dubois when he knew Dubois is going to lose.

When Ali's eyes were burning and couldn't see Sonny Liston due to blinding powder, Dundee told Ali; ''Run until you can see clearly again.'', so Ali run for a couple of rounds and tried to survive against one of the most fearsome boxers in the history.

BJS asked for a big size ring before the fight with Canelo, and even made an issue about this, so he could ''run around the ring'' freely when he likes ...

Just run then... Especially after all that trash talk and talk about Dubois. Why did you ask for a big ring?
You're right. He should have just run around a bit until his fractures healed.
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Re: Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Post by Switch hitter »

littlepug wrote: 10 May 2021, 18:42
xeo7 wrote: 10 May 2021, 17:42
littlepug wrote: 10 May 2021, 17:09
He was a defending world champion, he certainly didn’t box like one.

He did !!! What you think you witnessed is not what happened

What happed is that BJS put in a GREAT performance.. typically when he’s on his game.. against an Elite athlete.

The difference here, is that Canelo made him look like he was struggling at times, and later on it was looking almost obvious he was able to dial it up ANYTIME. Which he did with one punch. That’s all it took.

THATS the clear difference between a talented World champion, vs a true Elite multiple world champ.

Talent vs Exceptional talent.

Buncey and Costello talked a lot about how well he was doing at points etc, but it’s almost irrelevant chat..

I just wish his next fight was vs a PRIME Mayweather.
Just hate all this “he did well” talk when all he did was stay in the fight, is that what we give praise for now ? Not even having a real go ? It’s all gone a bit snowflakey for me, giving him a pat on the back because Canelo gave him a couple of rounds and then getting pulled out without any protest whatsoever, I’m sorry but the bar is set higher that that, we know it’s set higher because we’ve bloody seen it with our own eyes over the years, so don’t try and take a fainthearted attempt ending in a whimper and sell it to me as a warrior going out on his shield because I’m not buying it.

How would you have liked Billy to box against Canelo?
Finkel
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Re: Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Post by Finkel »

candyslim wrote: 11 May 2021, 03:00
Tevfik1907 wrote: 10 May 2021, 13:36 Quitting after this is the problem;



Not even mention about BJS's earlier comments about Dubois, Dubois at least didn't trash talk to Joe Joyce and Joyce didn't do this to Dubois when he knew Dubois is going to lose.

When Ali's eyes were burning and couldn't see Sonny Liston due to blinding powder, Dundee told Ali; ''Run until you can see clearly again.'', so Ali run for a couple of rounds and tried to survive against one of the most fearsome boxers in the history.

BJS asked for a big size ring before the fight with Canelo, and even made an issue about this, so he could ''run around the ring'' freely when he likes ...

Just run then... Especially after all that trash talk and talk about Dubois. Why did you ask for a big ring?
You're right. He should have just run around a bit until his fractures healed.
:lol:
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Re: Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Post by Enlightened-One »

candyslim wrote: 11 May 2021, 03:00You're right. He should have just run around a bit until his fractures healed.
Pure class! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Jeff_lacy_ko
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Re: Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Post by Jeff_lacy_ko »

Of course he should have quit its ridiculous to fight with a broken orbital bone.
littlepug
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Re: Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Post by littlepug »

Switch hitter wrote: 11 May 2021, 05:02
littlepug wrote: 10 May 2021, 18:42
xeo7 wrote: 10 May 2021, 17:42


He did !!! What you think you witnessed is not what happened

What happed is that BJS put in a GREAT performance.. typically when he’s on his game.. against an Elite athlete.

The difference here, is that Canelo made him look like he was struggling at times, and later on it was looking almost obvious he was able to dial it up ANYTIME. Which he did with one punch. That’s all it took.

THATS the clear difference between a talented World champion, vs a true Elite multiple world champ.

Talent vs Exceptional talent.

Buncey and Costello talked a lot about how well he was doing at points etc, but it’s almost irrelevant chat..

I just wish his next fight was vs a PRIME Mayweather.
Just hate all this “he did well” talk when all he did was stay in the fight, is that what we give praise for now ? Not even having a real go ? It’s all gone a bit snowflakey for me, giving him a pat on the back because Canelo gave him a couple of rounds and then getting pulled out without any protest whatsoever, I’m sorry but the bar is set higher that that, we know it’s set higher because we’ve bloody seen it with our own eyes over the years, so don’t try and take a fainthearted attempt ending in a whimper and sell it to me as a warrior going out on his shield because I’m not buying it.

How would you have liked Billy to box against Canelo?
Just a bit more conviction would of been nice, you could tell from the off he didn’t believe in himself and wasn’t going to try and take control, can you imagine Calzaghe behaving like that? Anyway it’s not really about what he should of done it’s about getting patted on the back for just taking part, this sport has too long a history of great performances and moments to be reduced to that.
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Re: Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Post by Switch hitter »

littlepug wrote: 11 May 2021, 09:50
Switch hitter wrote: 11 May 2021, 05:02
littlepug wrote: 10 May 2021, 18:42
Just hate all this “he did well” talk when all he did was stay in the fight, is that what we give praise for now ? Not even having a real go ? It’s all gone a bit snowflakey for me, giving him a pat on the back because Canelo gave him a couple of rounds and then getting pulled out without any protest whatsoever, I’m sorry but the bar is set higher that that, we know it’s set higher because we’ve bloody seen it with our own eyes over the years, so don’t try and take a fainthearted attempt ending in a whimper and sell it to me as a warrior going out on his shield because I’m not buying it.

How would you have liked Billy to box against Canelo?
Just a bit more conviction would of been nice, you could tell from the off he didn’t believe in himself and wasn’t going to try and take control, can you imagine Calzaghe behaving like that? Anyway it’s not really about what he should of done it’s about getting patted on the back for just taking part, this sport has too long a history of great performances and moments to be reduced to that.

:doh:
littlepug
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Re: Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Post by littlepug »

Switch hitter wrote: 11 May 2021, 12:34
littlepug wrote: 11 May 2021, 09:50
Switch hitter wrote: 11 May 2021, 05:02


How would you have liked Billy to box against Canelo?
Just a bit more conviction would of been nice, you could tell from the off he didn’t believe in himself and wasn’t going to try and take control, can you imagine Calzaghe behaving like that? Anyway it’s not really about what he should of done it’s about getting patted on the back for just taking part, this sport has too long a history of great performances and moments to be reduced to that.

:doh:
I know, old fashioned ain’t I !
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Re: Quitting is Not the Problem for BJS

Post by ironbeard »

littlepug wrote: 11 May 2021, 09:50
Switch hitter wrote: 11 May 2021, 05:02
littlepug wrote: 10 May 2021, 18:42
Just hate all this “he did well” talk when all he did was stay in the fight, is that what we give praise for now ? Not even having a real go ? It’s all gone a bit snowflakey for me, giving him a pat on the back because Canelo gave him a couple of rounds and then getting pulled out without any protest whatsoever, I’m sorry but the bar is set higher that that, we know it’s set higher because we’ve bloody seen it with our own eyes over the years, so don’t try and take a fainthearted attempt ending in a whimper and sell it to me as a warrior going out on his shield because I’m not buying it.

How would you have liked Billy to box against Canelo?
Just a bit more conviction would of been nice, you could tell from the off he didn’t believe in himself and wasn’t going to try and take control, can you imagine Calzaghe behaving like that? Anyway it’s not really about what he should of done it’s about getting patted on the back for just taking part, this sport has too long a history of great performances and moments to be reduced to that.
In my opinion he was attempting to exert “a bit more conviction” from 5 on, which ultimately led to his demise.
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