I remember running into a Kazak researcher nearly 10 years ago.
Me: Oh wow, you're from Kazakhstan?
Him: Yes, how do you know it?! (Excited)
Me: ... Um, I think I saw a documentary about your country ...
I remember running into a Kazak researcher nearly 10 years ago.
Agreed.apollo creed wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 06:52Let's be real here, the version of Jacobs that GGG&Canelo fought was a better challenge&fighter than Andrade or Charlo!
Strongly disagree.apollo creed wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 06:52Even the version of Lemieux that G fought would've gave hard fights to Charlo and Andrade.
Agree about Steve Rolls.apollo creed wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 06:52Kami and Rolls were more of stay busy fights as Vanes too b/c after Rolls, G fought Chenko- who was a top mw at that time and after Vanes, G fought Canelo.
Agreed to a certain extent, but whilst Murata and Munguia would indeed be lucrative bouts, GGG would probably earn slightly more facing Charlo and Andrade.apollo creed wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 06:52Murata in Japan and Munguia(assuming he'd get a belt) would be more lucrative and winnable fights for a 40 y/o G than Charlo and Andrade.
Strongly agreed.apollo creed wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 06:52Yeah Charlo and Andrade may be better fighters than Murata and Munguia but they also don't want to risk too much by fighting each other.
When G fought Vanes, it was after the first Canelo fight - more as a stay busy fight b/c Canelo tested positive for clenbuterol, then G rematched Canelo. I mean c'mon man!Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 11:05Agreed.apollo creed wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 06:52Let's be real here, the version of Jacobs that GGG&Canelo fought was a better challenge&fighter than Andrade or Charlo!Strongly disagree.apollo creed wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 06:52Even the version of Lemieux that G fought would've gave hard fights to Charlo and Andrade.Agree about Steve Rolls.apollo creed wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 06:52Kami and Rolls were more of stay busy fights as Vanes too b/c after Rolls, G fought Chenko- who was a top mw at that time and after Vanes, G fought Canelo.
Strongly disagree about Vanes Martirosyan and Kamil Szeremeta.Agreed to a certain extent, but whilst Murata and Munguia would indeed be lucrative bouts, GGG would probably earn slightly more facing Charlo and Andrade.apollo creed wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 06:52Murata in Japan and Munguia(assuming he'd get a belt) would be more lucrative and winnable fights for a 40 y/o G than Charlo and Andrade.Strongly agreed.apollo creed wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 06:52Yeah Charlo and Andrade may be better fighters than Murata and Munguia but they also don't want to risk too much by fighting each other.
I'll even go one further by passionately arguing that none of the top-tier world-rated middleweights are willing to face each other, because they don't want to risk losing their opportunities to receive a mega Canelo lottery-winning sized payday.
The middleweight division is in a terrible state right now because of it.
And whilst I agree with most of your opinions, it doesn't detract from the fact that GGG's conduct definitely contradicts the claims he made during his DAZN introduction press-conference.
There were other fighters offering their services to fight GGG, but K2 picked the weakest option in Vanes.apollo creed wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 11:27When G fought Vanes, it was after the first Canelo fight - more as a stay busy fight b/c Canelo tested positive for clenbuterol, then G rematched Canelo. I mean c'mon man!Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 11:05Agreed.apollo creed wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 06:52Let's be real here, the version of Jacobs that GGG&Canelo fought was a better challenge&fighter than Andrade or Charlo!Strongly disagree.apollo creed wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 06:52Even the version of Lemieux that G fought would've gave hard fights to Charlo and Andrade.Agree about Steve Rolls.apollo creed wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 06:52Kami and Rolls were more of stay busy fights as Vanes too b/c after Rolls, G fought Chenko- who was a top mw at that time and after Vanes, G fought Canelo.
Strongly disagree about Vanes Martirosyan and Kamil Szeremeta.Agreed to a certain extent, but whilst Murata and Munguia would indeed be lucrative bouts, GGG would probably earn slightly more facing Charlo and Andrade.apollo creed wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 06:52Murata in Japan and Munguia(assuming he'd get a belt) would be more lucrative and winnable fights for a 40 y/o G than Charlo and Andrade.Strongly agreed.apollo creed wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 06:52Yeah Charlo and Andrade may be better fighters than Murata and Munguia but they also don't want to risk too much by fighting each other.
I'll even go one further by passionately arguing that none of the top-tier world-rated middleweights are willing to face each other, because they don't want to risk losing their opportunities to receive a mega Canelo lottery-winning sized payday.
The middleweight division is in a terrible state right now because of it.
And whilst I agree with most of your opinions, it doesn't detract from the fact that GGG's conduct definitely contradicts the claims he made during his DAZN introduction press-conference.
And yes all these top MW's like Charlo, Andrade, Eubank Jr and even Munguia may not fight each other too soon b/c they are staying ready for Canelo.
Maybe staying safe then move up at 168 when Canelo is running out of opponents at 168-175? All these guys like Andrade, Charlo Eubank Jr and Munguia are big guys and of course that they should fight each other.adislav123 wrote: ↑17 Jul 2021, 14:26 what exactly is this crop of middleweight top dogs waiting for?
did i miss something? didn't canelo make it clear by no means will he go back to middle?
why would he? he's comfortable at super middle & light heavy.
the drain steppin down wouldn't do him any good, he knows his body. we know from history that draining back down was rarely ever a good idea.
maybe after beterbiev knocks his block off, he might change his mind, still i doubt he'll ever fight again at 160.
yeah, got you. but for that they have to fornicating step up to 68 first themselves. and fight somebody challenging a class up. they ar not doing shit in their own division except always picking the easiest fight to keep that fuckung 0.apollo creed wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 03:54Maybe staying safe then move up at 168 when Canelo is running out of opponents at 168-175? All these guys like Andrade, Charlo Eubank Jr and Munguia are big guys and of course that they should fight each other.adislav123 wrote: ↑17 Jul 2021, 14:26 what exactly is this crop of middleweight top dogs waiting for?
did i miss something? didn't canelo make it clear by no means will he go back to middle?
why would he? he's comfortable at super middle & light heavy.
the drain steppin down wouldn't do him any good, he knows his body. we know from history that draining back down was rarely ever a good idea.
maybe after beterbiev knocks his block off, he might change his mind, still i doubt he'll ever fight again at 160.
Well, its sad but true. Actually Andrade was so close to fight BJS but Billy had messed up that. Saunders was pretty lucky with that easy belt at 168 b/c Canelo want it.adislav123 wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 05:56yeah, got you. but for that they have to fornicating step up to 68 first themselves. and fight somebody challenging a class up. they ar not doing shit in their own division except always picking the easiest fight to keep that fuckung 0.apollo creed wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 03:54Maybe staying safe then move up at 168 when Canelo is running out of opponents at 168-175? All these guys like Andrade, Charlo Eubank Jr and Munguia are big guys and of course that they should fight each other.adislav123 wrote: ↑17 Jul 2021, 14:26 what exactly is this crop of middleweight top dogs waiting for?
did i miss something? didn't canelo make it clear by no means will he go back to middle?
why would he? he's comfortable at super middle & light heavy.
the drain steppin down wouldn't do him any good, he knows his body. we know from history that draining back down was rarely ever a good idea.
maybe after beterbiev knocks his block off, he might change his mind, still i doubt he'll ever fight again at 160.
what are these mw fighters or their respective idiots of managers thinking?
stay safe at 60, avoid each other, announce the move up and expecting boxing god canelo to suddenly pick & pay them?
frikking start fighting each other!
WTF is he talking about?!

and mat macklin , but any way that is boxing advoid fighters make your money nothing new, i think charlo could beat him the rest no but all depens if charlo can take a big shot which we still dont knowapollo creed wrote: ↑15 Jul 2021, 10:31 Guys like Charlo, Andrade and Eubank Jr want the scalp of a 40 y/o GGG but let's not forget that when GGG was younger and still a champ, he was avoided like the plague. The only decent MW's that had balls to fight a young G were Murray and Lemieux-IBF mw champion. The rest of them were 'hiding and acting like who is G'? lol
Now G is in a good position to make smart decisions for him, meanwhile these young-ish MW's are all talk and less willing to take some risks!
Gennadiy Golovkin vs Ryota Murata, Dec. 28 in Tokyo would be a big boxing-event!![]()
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have no idea what happened with that mate, was all a bit of a laugh and not something i took seriously, have never contacted any admit to get anyone banned. you should message John about the situation and see if he can unban or allow for another accountpanchito wrote: ↑21 Jul 2021, 18:58If thats true then fine 'bruh' but its just a bit ironic that you made a suggestion about multiple user names and suddenly my mate gets 86'd from the board. I mean it was simultaneous with your remark mate so it is what it is.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑21 Jul 2021, 18:51 lol so what is it? before you said i was banning posters myself, now i'm contacting the admins?
hey forum admins - did i ever contact you about banning anyone??
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