What can be realistically done to make Spence vs Crawford fight ?

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Cent0089
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What can be realistically done to make Spence vs Crawford fight ?

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Remembering long wait to Canelo - Golovkin fight, that was some 2 years. But Spence - Crawford is fight boxing community desperately wanna see for more than 2 years man. I understand Spence and Crawford did not reach popularity of Alvarez or Golovkin, but still think this can be megafight, career defining for both.

Edit: good thing is, both guys are in prime, and will be for at least 3 years. Hopefully waiting will be not that long
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Cent0089 wrote: 21 Jul 2021, 17:00 Remembering long wait to Canelo - Golovkin fight, that was some 2 years. But Spence - Crawford is fight boxing community desperately wanna see for more than 2 years man. I understand Spence and Crawford did not reach popularity of Alvarez or Golovkin, but still think this can be megafight, career defining for both.

Edit: good thing is, both guys are in prime, and will be for at least 3 years. Hopefully waiting will be not that long
Crawford leaves Top Rank.

If he doesn’t, we won’t see him face Spence Jr.
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Re: What can be realistically done to make Spence vs Crawford fight ?

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Nothing
The Asleep Lamps
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Re: What can be realistically done to make Spence vs Crawford fight ?

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Spence Pacquiao probably makes it more likely with more eyeballs than ever will be on Spence. More visibility for the casuals.
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Crawford wants 50-50. For the fight to happen, he'll have to accept 60-40 or 70-30. Spence is clearly the A side for PPV $ draw.

Floyd only made half of what DLH made, had to go to 154, let DLH choose gloves, total A side to him.

Canelo had to make similar B side concessions to Floyd.

Even with 30 or 40 %, it will be big $ for Crawford, and a chance at a career defining fight...but there is Arum to deal with. So, it's on Crawford if it doesn't get made.
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it will happen before next summer, there aint no big money fights floating about this is a huge fight world wide in the uk because they have fought uk fighters biggest ppv fight of 2022 mark my words
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More pressure from fans is needed.
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Re: What can be realistically done to make Spence vs Crawford fight ?

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With Spence eyeing a move to 154 soon, I can see them moving in separate directions.
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Re: What can be realistically done to make Spence vs Crawford fight ?

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neither of them want it badly enough unfortunately
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Forget it. Spence already expressed an idea to move up after Pac, so he'll do it. Crawford's soap opera with Bob got annoying and it's very likely that Crawford will continue to rip his legacy.
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Jeff bezos to become a boxing fan.
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Crawford may fight Porter now. I like the boxer Porter, not saying I like him to win. But he gave a good effort vs Spence so it's not unimaginable that he could win.
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The Asleep Lamps wrote: 22 Jul 2021, 06:36 Crawford may fight Porter now. I like the boxer Porter, not saying I like him to win. But he gave a good effort vs Spence so it's not unimaginable that he could win.
Porter won’t fight craw on a mando split.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 21 Jul 2021, 17:06
Cent0089 wrote: 21 Jul 2021, 17:00 Remembering long wait to Canelo - Golovkin fight, that was some 2 years. But Spence - Crawford is fight boxing community desperately wanna see for more than 2 years man. I understand Spence and Crawford did not reach popularity of Alvarez or Golovkin, but still think this can be megafight, career defining for both.

Edit: good thing is, both guys are in prime, and will be for at least 3 years. Hopefully waiting will be not that long
Crawford leaves Top Rank.

If he doesn’t, we won’t see him face Spence Jr.
Top Rank has worked with other promoters a lot.. he’s also worked with PBC before aswel.. for a PPV. Why not now? Why does he have to leave TR?
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These two won't fight each other, even if they are locked together in a chamber without food and water in order to make them fight each other for their lives.
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They will fight in 2040 in an exhibition bout with two minute rounds. :D
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The Asleep Lamps wrote: 22 Jul 2021, 06:36 Crawford may fight Porter now. I like the boxer Porter, not saying I like him to win. But he gave a good effort vs Spence so it's not unimaginable that he could win.
Top Rank and Terence Crawford definitely don’t want the Shawn Porter fight.

Instead, they were desperately hoping to face a blown-up junior welterweight, such as Regis Prograis, Jose Ramirez or Jose Zepeda on the 23rd October.

Top Rank was even considering Josesito Lopez, another fighter who’s natural habitat (or optimal fighting weight) is 140lbs.

However, it seems the WBO have TODAY forced Top Rank and Terence Crawford’s hands, by forcing them to make the Shawn Porter bout!

If the fight goes to purse bids, expect Top Rank to submit a lowball offer, with the expectation that Fox or Showtime will, in conjunction with the PBC, to cover the bout.

If you have any doubts about my claims, read the quotes and articles below:

14th November, 2020:
“I don’t give a sh-t,” Arum told [Dan Rafel].

“I don’t care because what (the Crawford camp) did was reprehensible. The lawyer sent a letter to us. OK, that’s fine. That’s what lawyers do. But you don’t release it to the press. All of this should have been behind closed doors like what men do. I’m not going to take this sh-t.

“I’m just not going to do it, because the truth is I’ve lost money with this guy.”

“It will be (another Crawford promotion) another hit on my net worth,

“I’m being serious. I turned the whole project of Crawford over to (Top Rank president and Arum stepson) Todd (duBoef). I washed my hands of it.

“I’m too emotional about it. There was this last kerfuffle with the Brook fight when he didn’t sign the contracts so we couldn’t promote on (the) Lomachenko-Lopez (telecast). I have long since departed working with Crawford.”


16th December, 2020:
"Terence Crawford NOT interested in Shawn Porter fight"

“That’s not a fight that I’m focused on right now or even worried about,” said Crawford to DAZN about a fight between him and Porter.

“I’m focused on other things right now. If we had to fight and if it made sense, then that would be a fight that we would both agree upon.

“But right now, I feel like that’s not something we should discuss right now, because there’s nothing on the table for me,” said Crawford.


17th May, 2021:
"Top Rank not interested in making Crawford-Porter"

Top Rank's Bruce Trampler responding to Kenny Porter's statement that Top Rank was not interested in making a fight between Kenny's son Shawn Porter and WBO welterweight champion Terence Crawford:

"Kenny Porter is a good man and gave an accurate account of matters, but reality is that fight is too costly for what fighters want to be paid without fans.

"Big fights have to go on PPV, but TV isn’t near enough.

"Remember, fighters want huge guarantees with no risk. We’ve paid big guarantees for decades but not in these times."


22nd June, 2021:


22nd June, 2021:


22nd July, 2021:
"Terence Crawford ordered to make Shawn Porter WBO defence - reports"

The welterweight champion finally has another fight on the horizon.

Terence Crawford has reportedly been told to defend his WBO welterweight championship against Shawn Porter by the governing body.

The undefeated American, often mentioned as one of the contenders for the world’s best pound-for-pound boxer, has often been at odds with his Top Rank head Bob Arum over which fights he should make, but there is a clear way forward for him now, reports Sky Sports.

Porter - a former welterweight world champion himself - and Porter have to come to an agreement by August 20, otherwise the fight will go to purse bids.

Crawford has won belts at three weights over the course of his career, and has not suffered a loss in 37 fights. He has beaten British fighters Amir Khan and Kell Brook to defend his WBO belt, both wins coming by stoppage.

The fight means that any clash between Crawford and Josh Taylor, the newly crowned undisputed light welterweight, will have to wait. Taylor has also been linked with Teofimo Lopez, who is eager to defend his lightweight belts against his IBF mandatory, George Kambosos Jr.
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It may take one of them to lose. Fighters are a lot less scared and often demand less in negotiations once they realise their career no longer relies on being unbeaten.

Either that, Crawford let's his TR contract run down or Bob expires.
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I think Mikey Garcia is going to fight Prograis. I thought he should have targeted Ramirez and Taylor instead of Spence. But Spence was a bigger fight. Now is just Taylor to target. Crawford vs Taylor is targeted for early 2022, if they both continue winning.
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