maverick23 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2021, 04:02
Just read the interview with Chris Jenkins in Boxing News. I feel sorry for the bloke - he must be gutted that FW wouldn’t let him accept the Benn offer which he and his team said was for really good money.
All he wants to do is have his own house yet hasn’t fought for nearly 2 years, missed out on a good payday and has had to do odds jobs (cleaning, washing cars, cleaning windows) to survive. It’s good that he’s a hard worker and was able to do that but as a British champion aligned to one of Britain’s top promoters he shouldn’t have to.
Its disgusting by frank if true. I assumed it was the case from the start, he had a chance to fight connor when connor was raw enough that he was a real chance, yet name enough to get paid, it seemed him and his team wanted it. Promoters fornicating over there own fighters is one of the worst things in boxing.
Yeah. He didn’t call Frank out in the article. Just said they let it go to purse bids and Benn pulled out. Which is true because they wanted to get him out quickly which they did with Formella.
There were loads of interviews at the time with him/his management where they said they were happy with the offer.
The promoter should work for the boxer. Jenkins has had minimal publicity for his fight tonight whilst a fight with Benn would have generated plenty of press, it would have been competitive on paper (in hindsight I think Benn would win by stoppage but I didn’t think that when the fight was first discussed) and he would have had enough cash for a mortgage deposit.
Either way a British champ shouldn’t need to wash cars to support his family. It’s a title that 90% of British boxers would love to win so he shouldn’t be short of good competitive fights.
Obviously benn pulled out once it got to purse bids, he is not the B side in this (he wold be in purse bids though). But i heard jenkins was happy with an offer multiple times before that, so if thats true surely the fight would of happened, unless old frank was playing shenanigans.
Benn beats him up, but if the cash is right... jenkins dosent have an 0 to protect, and is never going to world levle, so paydays are rare.
mickey1975 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2021, 07:37
Didn't Hearn tell Allen to ask for £350,000 for Dubious then gave him 50k for Price?
Who knows - Frank was never going to pay that kind of money for Allen and I’m not even sure Allen had an exclusive promotional contract with Eddie. Not sure what that’s got to do with Jenkins though.
Also Allen openly talks about having several properties and being set financially (which I think is pretty amazing considering his ability). All Jenkins wants was a mortgage deposit which I’m pretty sure the Benn offer would have delivered.
mickey1975 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2021, 07:37
Didn't Hearn tell Allen to ask for £350,000 for Dubious then gave him 50k for Price?
Who knows - Frank was never going to pay that kind of money for Allen and I’m not even sure Allen had an exclusive promotional contract with Eddie. Not sure what that’s got to do with Jenkins though.
Also Allen openly talks about having several properties and being set financially (which I think is pretty amazing considering his ability). All Jenkins wants was a mortgage deposit which I’m pretty sure the Benn offer would have delivered.
LOL ! Dave Allen talks a lot and its mainly shite .
handsofstone wrote: ↑23 Jul 2021, 16:47
Ive got to say Joyce is one my favs to watch, no frills, just plods away but keeps getting job done, still slow, still easy to hit ,still getting solid guys out of there, im desperate to see how he fares against a top 5 Heavy
Yeah me too, there’s something a bit George Foremany about him that appeals
Definitely its no stretch to say they have similar traits, thats why I'd love to see Joyce in with a Joshua, Fury, Wilder, Whyte, Ruiz etc, apart from maybe Fury i can def envision some sort of Foreman/Moorer situation, its also fairly easy to see him either comprehensively outboxed or stopped on his feet
Aye he has that kind of durability that you can’t buy and just as important he has a very good jab.
Joyce is way too slow and face first to suceed at the very highest level. I've got a feeling that Dubois may end up winning a world title after today's top boys retire and achieve more than Big Joe in the pro ranks.
dr_devious wrote: ↑25 Jul 2021, 17:56
Joyce is way too slow and face first to suceed at the very highest level. I've got a feeling that Dubois may end up winning a world title after today's top boys retire and achieve more than Big Joe in the pro ranks.
Possible re: Dubois..
I'm still not sure what he will develop/mature into. Realistically Joyce was his first real test and he did alright.
Hopefully Joe will get his chance before too long. Meanwhile he should stay busy. I haven't seen him in a boring fight, so I'm keen to see him fight whoever. It would be a shame and a waste to have him in a holding pattern for a title for 2 years.
35 years old- he needs to make hay and get paid.
DDD did very well vs joyce just wasnt prepared for a scenario where he would lose the battle of jabs. to be fair to him, i dont think he loses that battle to many opponent, but will be good for him have learned that if your losing on the jabs you need a new plan.
I won't call Dub-Joyce close. Joyce was generally outboxing Dub, while Dub was fighting in spurts. And Joyce' jab troubled Dub more, than Dub's power punches troubled Joyce.
Actually, Takam looked better against Joyce than Dub, until he got battered and waved.
It seems like Joyce fights according to levels of his opponents. When he feels no threat, he relies on his strength and durability. When he is against someone, who on par with him, he boxes more rationally.
But Dubois at 22 with almost zero senior amateur bouts being matched with Joyce who was 33(?) and one of the best super heavyweight amateur boxers the U.K. has produced (achievement wise) wasn’t too clever.
That’s before considering Dubois had never had to show what his plan B was if steamrolling guys didn’t work and they fought back
