Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021

Who wins?

Poll ended at 25 Sep 2021, 07:01

Joshua - Decision
28
19%
Joshua - T/KO
56
37%
DRAW
4
3%
Usyk - T/KO
22
15%
Usyk - Decision
40
27%
 
Total votes: 150

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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021

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MightyWarrior wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 09:48 Thanks that’s good to know :TU: so the lower tier seats that Maverick recommends will be the red ones in the chart above I guess
I can't help you with the venue as I've never been there. :TU:
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021

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The blue and red seats are both listed £100..

Blue seats seem much better then.

Wonder if them prices are right.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021

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mickey1975 wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 09:28
digzee wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 09:17
Cyclops wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 08:46
x2. Is that the best people can come up with? It was a good shot which he shook off immediately. That's also one decent punch from what I remember to be a painfully one sided fight.
If you think that was a one sided fight you don't know much about boxing tbh.
If you think that's Breidis, then you don't know much about boxing....
Its very big punching Gassiev.
All I said to you is that proves he can be hurt when you said that shot proves his chin. Do you think Gassiev hits as hard as Joshua, Wilder and even Fury whose power is underrated by many?

A poster said Usyk has never been hurt, that gif proves he has and can be imo
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digzee wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 10:06
mickey1975 wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 09:28
digzee wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 09:17

If you think that was a one sided fight you don't know much about boxing tbh.
If you think that's Breidis, then you don't know much about boxing....
Its very big punching Gassiev.
All I said to you is that proves he can be hurt when you said that shot proves his chin. Do you think Gassiev hits as hard as Joshua, Wilder and even Fury whose power is underrated by many?

A poster said Usyk has never been hurt, that gif proves he has and can be imo
So you don’t think Usyk vs Gassiev was a one sided fight?
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021

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i said usyk never looked vulnerable.....i never said he'd never been punched in the face! Id like to see how joshua would have responded to that punch. Another thing about joshua is that he has largley been fighting pensioners and plodders...usyk is prime, fast and skilled and still has ambition
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maverick23 wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 10:43
digzee wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 10:06
mickey1975 wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 09:28
If you think that's Breidis, then you don't know much about boxing....
Its very big punching Gassiev.
All I said to you is that proves he can be hurt when you said that shot proves his chin. Do you think Gassiev hits as hard as Joshua, Wilder and even Fury whose power is underrated by many?

A poster said Usyk has never been hurt, that gif proves he has and can be imo
So you don’t think Usyk vs Gassiev was a one sided fight?
Yeah it was, shame Gassiev had an injured shoulder.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021

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jimcook wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 10:52 i said usyk never looked vulnerable.....i never said he'd never been punched in the face! Id like to see how joshua would have responded to that punch. Another thing about joshua is that he has largley been fighting pensioners and plodders...usyk is prime, fast and skilled and still has ambition
Anything other than an Usyk win inside 6 rounds will be a failure then :TU:
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 07:25
JamesPhilips wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 05:21 PS don't want to be a pedant but contrary to Boxrec and popular belief its not Olelsandr its Aleksandr
Fully aware. But all his threads on here have been Olek. So I’m keeping it same.

It’s the same with Loma. All of a sudden they stopped referring him as Vasyl on sites, its Vissily. And GGG. Used to be Gennady, now it’s Gennadiy..

It’s a Euro thing I guess.
Yeah it was the same for Wladimir. Was Vladimir for years. Anyway they use a different alphabet to English so I’m not quite sure how they work out its specific Anglo spelling
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021

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digzee wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 11:00
maverick23 wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 10:43
digzee wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 10:06

All I said to you is that proves he can be hurt when you said that shot proves his chin. Do you think Gassiev hits as hard as Joshua, Wilder and even Fury whose power is underrated by many?

A poster said Usyk has never been hurt, that gif proves he has and can be imo
So you don’t think Usyk vs Gassiev was a one sided fight?
Yeah it was, shame Gassiev had an injured shoulder.
You owe me an apology.
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digzee wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 07:50
jimcook wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 02:07 usyk wins this. joshua cant fight 12 rounds at a pace . when he exerts himself he needs practically two rounds off to recover. that is when he will be like a sitting duck for usyk to exploit. joshua has a slim chance of landing his big punches cleanly, and even if he does....i cant think of any time in the past where usyk looked vulnerable....joshua , on the other hand, has been down plenty of times
I agree AJ has stamina issues but he recovers pretty well. He's been dropped a few times but always gets back on his feet and Usyk doesn't hit as hard as any of the boxers who hurt Joshua. Usyk doesn't hit hard enough to stop heavyweights walking him down, Chisora was tired in the last couple of rounds but Usyk couldn't put a dent in him. When Joshua is taking a couple of rounds off what do you think Usyk is going to do?

Also, Usyk has been hurt before and by someone who doesn't hit nearly as hard as AJ.

Image
he doesnt look very hurt to me there tbh, the legs dont dip or go there, it is just him slightly stepping back. id say it he took it well actually

he was hurt in the 12th vs briedis though, much more clearly than in that gif
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digzee wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 09:17
Cyclops wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 08:46
mickey1975 wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 08:38 I'd say that shot proved his chin rather than the opposite.
x2. Is that the best people can come up with? It was a good shot which he shook off immediately. That's also one decent punch from what I remember to be a painfully one sided fight.
If you think that was a one sided fight you don't know much about boxing tbh.
it was one sided without a doubt, no way gas won more than a round......
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021

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the other time ive seen usyk defo hurt was back in the 2012 olympics when bert got him with a body shot
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I’m sure it’s no shame if Usyk did get hurt by Gas or Briedis.

Both very much top Cruiserweights at the time.

Which top boxer has never not been hurt really?
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021

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there are only a few freaks of nature out there who ive never even see dip fighting at top level

hagler had a freak chin, look at him walk through hearns

provo more recently never even rocked eating full on flush shots. lucas and john molina are big hitters an they hardly budged him

wach has taken absolute batterings from big hitters but never gone down



usyk has shown a fine chine so far, but it's true it's not all that proven at HW and i certainly agree that aj will have more than enough power to ko usyk if he's landing
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 16:18 I’m sure it’s no shame if Usyk did get hurt by Gas or Briedis.

Both very much top Cruiserweights at the time.

Which top boxer has never not been hurt really?
Only the Big Juggernaut!
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margaret thatcher wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 16:21 hagler had a freak chin, look at him walk through hearns
I know he passed young but Hagler never seemed punch drunk either, or at least not to my memory.

RIP, King. :cry:
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digzee wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 10:06
mickey1975 wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 09:28
digzee wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 09:17

If you think that was a one sided fight you don't know much about boxing tbh.
If you think that's Breidis, then you don't know much about boxing....
Its very big punching Gassiev.
All I said to you is that proves he can be hurt when you said that shot proves his chin.
That's not all you said and that's why you're hiding under a rock.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021

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Cyclops wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 18:00
margaret thatcher wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 16:21 hagler had a freak chin, look at him walk through hearns
I know he passed young but Hagler never seemed punch drunk either, or at least not to my memory.

RIP, King. :cry:
Yeah. Oliver McCall too
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Cyclops wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 18:00
margaret thatcher wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 16:21 hagler had a freak chin, look at him walk through hearns
I know he passed young but Hagler never seemed punch drunk either, or at least not to my memory.

RIP, King. :cry:
He went out on top, even though it is a loss on his record. Got out before the sport became more corrupt. Then Leonard offered him a rematch years later didn’t he?

Went out on his own terms and did not once look back.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021

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Usyk's chin is very good. Taking Gassiev's and Briedis' punches well means being ready for the HW power, as all of them three were drained HWs at the CW. Of course, it's impossible to predict, if Usyk takes a clean best shot of Joshua, but will Joshua be able to deliver such frequently?
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I think Joshua wins via stoppage somewhere between rounds 8 and 10, plus or minus a round. I am not at all impressed with the Ukrainian as a heavyweight, and since it appears he has let the criticism of him having no punching power get the better of him putting on excess bulk it shows me he's already mentally lost the match.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021

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Cyclops wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 15:02
digzee wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 11:00
maverick23 wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 10:43

So you don’t think Usyk vs Gassiev was a one sided fight?
Yeah it was, shame Gassiev had an injured shoulder.
You owe me an apology.
I'm soooooo sorry, will you accept my apology?

Seriously though I did have a shocker but all I was proving was Usyk had been hurt before when someone said he's never seen him look hurt.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021

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Bellew Confident Usyk Has Enough Power To Hurt Joshua

Former cruiserweight champion Tony Bellew certainly believes that Oleksandr Usyk is a big enough puncher to score a stoppage win over Anthony Joshua.

Usyk, a former undisputed cruiserweight world champion, will challenge Joshua for the IBF, IBO, WBA, WBO heavyweight titles at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium on September 25.

This contest will mark the third heavyweight outing for Usyk.

In his two heavyweight appearances, Usyk did not look as spectacular as he did when he competed at cruiserweight.

Bellew was knocked out by Usyk in November of 2018. It was the final cruiserweight appearance for Usyk and the final bout of Bellew's career.

While some have questioned Usyk's power at heavyweight, Bellew is not one of those critics.

"Believe you me mate, he hits hard enough to send me down. He's exceptional. He's the best I ever faced. He is so technically perfect. His footwork is on another level," Bellew told the DAZN Boxing Show.

For the upcoming bout, Usyk will be trained by Anatoly Lomachenko, who is the father and trainer of three division champion Vasiliy Lomachenko.

In the opinion of Bellew, that scenario makes the upcoming bout that much harder.

"It’s a hard fight, I’m not gonna lie. It’s a very, very hard fight. If anything, it’s just got even harder because Usyk has now gone back with Lomachenko’s father. That makes it even harder because they will create a game plan that is gonna try and negate everything good that Anthony Joshua does," Bellew told Talk Sport.

“They’re gonna try and take everything away from him. That’s what Usyk does so well. He takes away your strengths before he looks at implementing his own strengths. And by taking away your strengths, you’re lost. The things he does with his feet – he’s exceptional. So I think it’s a really hard fight, I think it’s really dangerous.”
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021

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" I don’t believe he’s big enough and dangerous enough to cause AJ problems."

- 2 months later....

"I think it’s a really hard fight, I think it’s really dangerous.”

- Anthony Bellew.
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