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The ROC Batyrgaziev had a war against the Mongol guy at 57 kg, pulled out a SD. Russia had some interesting affairs today, although it was the worst day of the tourney for it, as 3 guys out, 2 with Bronze though.

Russian Zamkovoy failed to repeat the achievement of his great countryman Alexander Lebziak and to win the Gold with the 3rd attempt.
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maverick23 wrote: 01 Aug 2021, 09:21 The Cubans have been amazing so far. They’ve won every fight I’ve seen with one of their fighters. Have they taken a loss yet?
The SHW Pero lost to the American Torrez today. He scored some good counters, but he was lazy and tired from the plodding onslaught of Torrez. Overall, Cuba rocks this year.
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maverick23 wrote: 01 Aug 2021, 09:21 The Cubans have been amazing so far. They’ve won every fight I’ve seen with one of their fighters. Have they taken a loss yet?

Another good day for the Brits with 3 guys progressing.
Arlen Lopez is textbook boxer. I like Roniel Iglesias too, i remember him as a runner from long time ago but he obviously changed style to comeforward. I like it. Andy Cruz vs Keyshawn Davis will be something for boxing purists.
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Middleweight division is most interesting by far for me this year. Too bad Arlen Lopez moved up in weight. Philippines vs Ukraine semifinal is something you must watch guys. :box: :box: :box: Russian Gleb Bakshi is also skilled switch hitter, i think he can handle brazilian and go to final.

Keyshawn Davis vs Andy Cruz will be must watch final. Only other interesting boxer in 63 kg is armenian Bachkov, nobody else catch my eye in that division.

91 and 91+ are boring this year
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Cent0089 wrote: 01 Aug 2021, 09:36 Middleweight division is most interesting by far for me this year. Too bad Arlen Lopez moved up in weight. Philippines vs Ukraine semifinal is something you must watch guys. :box: :box: :box: Russian Gleb Bakshi is also skilled switch hitter, i think he can handle brazilian and go to final.
Bakshi is good, but he laboured too much with the today's opponent and fought his dirty fight instead of boxing. He'll deal with the lazy Brazilian, whose 1/8 and 1/4 wins were quite dodgy, but he won't handle Khyzhniak in the final. The 3rd time won't be a charm for Bakshi, because the Ukrainian Tank is unstoppable wrecking machine.
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DrDuke wrote: 01 Aug 2021, 09:18
maverick23 wrote: 01 Aug 2021, 03:42
DrDuke wrote: 01 Aug 2021, 00:53

I had Aliev up after the 1st. He wasn't badly leading with the head indeed. And Clarke can pull out because of a cut. Those f*ckers could destroy two fights, if Clarke would pull out, cause it wasn't clear with the Aliev bout, it was close.
I haven’t seen the fight yet. Was Clarke badly cut?
It looked quite bad for me. I doubt, if he continues the tourney.
Just seen it. The cuts looked right on the edge of the eye so hopefully won’t impair his vision if it does start to drip.

Was a dodgy DQ for me. The red seemed to take a point but then call it off too quickly straight after.
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DrDuke wrote: 31 Jul 2021, 23:33 Khyzhniak got hit on balls, the ref gave a count! Eventually a one judge scored for the Dominican... In reality Khyzhniak dominated in his trademark fashion.
Actually that is the proper procedure the ref followed. Even though it was an illegal blow, if he was hurt, he gets a count and the ref told the Dominican to keep the punches up which means it was illegal so the count does not hurt Khyzhaniak on the scoring. It's a safety rule for the ref to observe the offended boxer. In the case of a low blow, the ref has to decide if it was incapacitating and if so, disqualify the the guy who threw the low blow. On the other hand I have seen boxers try to fake that they were so hurt by a low blow and couldn't continue trying to get the other guy d'qd and the ref called them on it and counted them out.
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JMac wrote: 01 Aug 2021, 13:37
DrDuke wrote: 31 Jul 2021, 23:33 Khyzhniak got hit on balls, the ref gave a count! Eventually a one judge scored for the Dominican... In reality Khyzhniak dominated in his trademark fashion.
Actually that is the proper procedure the ref followed. Even though it was an illegal blow, if he was hurt, he gets a count and the ref told the Dominican to keep the punches up which means it was illegal so the count does not hurt Khyzhaniak on the scoring. It's a safety rule for the ref to observe the offended boxer. In the case of a low blow, the ref has to decide if it was incapacitating and if so, disqualify the the guy who threw the low blow. On the other hand I have seen boxers try to fake that they were so hurt by a low blow and couldn't continue trying to get the other guy d'qd and the ref called them on it and counted them out.
Well, the least case definitely isn't about this fight.
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DrDuke wrote: 01 Aug 2021, 13:40
JMac wrote: 01 Aug 2021, 13:37
DrDuke wrote: 31 Jul 2021, 23:33 Khyzhniak got hit on balls, the ref gave a count! Eventually a one judge scored for the Dominican... In reality Khyzhniak dominated in his trademark fashion.
Actually that is the proper procedure the ref followed. Even though it was an illegal blow, if he was hurt, he gets a count and the ref told the Dominican to keep the punches up which means it was illegal so the count does not hurt Khyzhaniak on the scoring. It's a safety rule for the ref to observe the offended boxer. In the case of a low blow, the ref has to decide if it was incapacitating and if so, disqualify the the guy who threw the low blow. On the other hand I have seen boxers try to fake that they were so hurt by a low blow and couldn't continue trying to get the other guy d'qd and the ref called them on it and counted them out.
Well, the least case definitely isn't about this fight.
Right. Most people don't know the rule for the amateurs that the refs are told to count the boxer hit with a low blow just so he can observe them and the count doesn't hurt them on the scoring. They could change that to the ref giving a hard warning to the offender and taking their time observing the guy who got hit just so it doesn't look like it does to most fans.
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DrDuke wrote: 01 Aug 2021, 00:40 Aliev DQed for a headbutt vs Clarke. An utter nonsense.
I know the US ref very well. I don't know what he was thinking there. Maybe he d'qd the guy because Clarke had 2 cuts. It looked like he was giving an official warning which means he loses a point but then all of sudden...d'qd without warnings. I see some fights where refs give 20 cautions for both boxers coming in with their heads and no warnings (pts taken). He probably should have just taken a point and not d'qd the Frenchman. That would have been acceptable.
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gregregegg wrote: 01 Aug 2021, 04:11
margaret thatcher wrote: 01 Aug 2021, 03:45
gregregegg wrote: 01 Aug 2021, 03:17 Got the UD but honestly looked poor. His opponent looked very very poor. I know there’s not many stoppages in the ams, but I was suprised it wasn’t a stoppage win with how bad technically and how small the Indian was. Tons of heart and kept charging in, but I’d expect hugie fury to stop him wearing 20 oz gloves….
to be fair, looking at kumar's record....in 60 fights at a high level never been stopped....including in 3 fights vs jalo, 2 fights with clark, fight vs the frenchman etc

no one has done it
Unreal. I’m shocked he has fought so many top guys. He looks like a strait bum. And it’s not like he shells up he was winging everything so surviving is amazing. I still don’t quite understand why ams stops are so rare, the gloves are bigger but not crazy bigger are they?

Should go pro, feed him absolutely no ones till he has a record, then fight a top Chinese heavyweight on a 1 dollar ppv and do a billion buys….
I didn't think Kumar was bad, and I thought Jalolov, whilst not impressive in this fight has great movement for such a big man. He can punch too even if he didn't show it today.

As to your Billion PPV fight, LOL I like the way you think..... I'd be up for that... what a grudge match LOL
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I’ve watched only boxing this Olympics (only men.) and I have to say I’ve enjoyed it way more than I thought. Way more than any Olympics for years. There have been some super fighters and bouts. Some good stoppages. Some upsets.

I didn’t expect this TBH….
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JamesPhilips wrote: 01 Aug 2021, 16:41 I’ve watched only boxing this Olympics (only men.) and I have to say I’ve enjoyed it way more than I thought. Way more than any Olympics for years. There have been some super fighters and bouts. Some good stoppages. Some upsets.

I didn’t expect this TBH….
It’s because they changed the scoring system to the pro style 10 pt must system instead of the horrible computer scoring. When they used that system, the coaches changed the style of their fighters to better score on that system. It worked but was horrible to watch. It was punch and hold, punch and wrestle or punch and run. There was no need to throw the amount of punches they are now throwing because the judges only pushed the button for big obvious shots to the head. Now it’s so much more exciting because they are throwing way more punches because that’s what wins the round instead of a cumulative score.
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Yeah, this Olympics is very entertaining. I've watched almost all men's fights and I actually have never watched Olympic boxing that much. Mostly I tuned in closer to the higher stages, more often to a heavier weights and majorly I followed the native Russian fighters, but now I followed everything.
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Ireland guarantee our 2nd medal in boxing this Olympics in the women's light. I caught the first 2 rounds before I had to leave. She was far better than the other girl. Little Bit disappointed by the irish boxing team. Think we could have won 3 medals. Could still pick up gold in in this tho :bag:
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Tanaka was awarded a hometown dec over the Columbian, how clearly outgunned him.

Davis fought very dirty against Mamedov and he wasn't even warned much. Anyway, he was landing the biggest shots and he hurt Mamedov quite badly in the 3rd round, so he looked like a boss more.

Gadzhimagomedov outboxed Nyika in a spectacular fashion. It was odd to see an argument on the cards in such a masterclass.

Dub's little sister was robbed, I'd say. They stole the 1st round from her. She won the 2nd one, but blew the 3rd. Hopefully the Irish tough girl punishes the Thai cheek for that in the next round.
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Yafai's SD over the Cuban was pretty dodgy.
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DrDuke wrote: 03 Aug 2021, 04:49 Yafai's SD over the Cuban was pretty dodgy.
I thought it could have gone either way.

Really pleased for Gal. He fought a Cuban in the last 16 of 2016 Olympics and lost a close one so I’m happy this one went his way.
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Batyrgaziev pressed the Cuban all fight, outgunned, outballed and outscored him, while he received only a SD and even 3:2. :roll:
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imaioral wrote: 27 Jul 2021, 07:32 Maiva Hamadouche was visibly robbed! Dirty f* corrupted aiba... .l.
Is there video of the fight anywhere? I missed this one...

Potkonen is pretty good. Has won all other fights pretty decisively. She has already secured bronze and has a chance for even better medal.

She won bronze in the last oympics too beating Katie Taylor for it.

She is from small country far away from the hosting nation. Not much financial incentive either Potkonen is 40 and will not join the professional ranks. So I think robbery is kind of unlikely.
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Garside wins a SD over Safiullin in an either-way-going sh!tty bout. Garside has at least Bronze now. No one of these two fighter deserves such a privilage. It was an easy run for both. Mamedov would whoop each.
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Brilliant pressure boxing from Gamal Yafai at flyweight. Not only beat cuban Veitia but schooled him. I am impressed. :box:
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La Cruz vs Gadzhimagomedov is a damn good matchup for the HW finale. A clash of the tournament's favorites. Gotta be interesting. I slightly favor La Cruz, but I won't be surprised by any outcome.
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Batyrgaziev got decision over Alvarez. IMO fight was pretty close, but is nice to see pressure and comeforward style finally got the nod over backfoot running and sidesteps.
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Iglesias wins the Gold against McCormack. The Brit did everything he was able to suggest. Iglesias simply had more of class. Even despite the fact of McCormack's WO win in 1/2 and Iglesias' tough opponent there in Zamkovoy, the Cuban was able to stick to his game. It was just about class. Well-deserved.
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