Tokyo olympics

[knockout]

What weight is Torres ??
At 6’2 he is going to be giving away a lot of size to the current AJ / Fury and the potential future Jalolov/ Yoka / Joyce / Clarke / Aliev / Thun

3 rounds you can get away with it .. but 12 rounds it gets much harder giving away 30lbs

[gregregegg]

Well Torrez loses $10 million off his signing bonus and a mill off his first purse

Cant say i think he was in line for that... but yea shame for him he didnt get gold. He could try next Olympics too.

Basicaly fight 4 times over the next 12 months, then 4 times in the 12 months after that after that, then twice the next 6 months after that and back into the ams for 6 months....

I am not sure what the cash parameters are for signing on figures, but come on it would’ve been huge had he hit gold. USA had a great history in Olympic boxing and love the big men yet have become a secondary or tertiary boxing nation now….. Torrez would’ve been front page news - reversing a KO loss, for an unexpected Gold as an underdog, at only 22, with fan friendly style and good looking guy…. AND If you’re inclined to mention it, he’s a white hispanic. First super heavy medal since Bowe’s rather placid silver in 1988, and first gold since Biggs in 1984. First USA MALE gold since Ward in 2004…. 16/17 years ago!

Come on man, he could name whatever price he wanted. Which US amateur turning over ever could compete with that win!?

Anyway even as an unexpected silver he’ll get plenty press and get a great offer so will prob turn pro in next year or so. He’s such an easy sell and he can even play the hard luck story of giving a great account of himself against an unbeaten 100% KO record pro and experience amateur…. Who’s Kod him as a virtual kid and when Balolov was already pro!

If he signed forever he could get a good price. still very speculative, i personaly dont expect him to get a heavyweight world title, and if he does i doubt it will be in the next 3 or 4 years. (he should fight 20++ times in the next 3 or 4 years).. So to be worth signing him for silly money you are speculating massively and the potential upside is a long time a way.... you really have to get him on a 10 year deal if your going to give him a crazy signing bonus.

If he gets 10 mill to sign and stars his purses at 1 million, you gunna drop 30 million on him befor you even relise if he is very good as a pro. and if you deal dosent snap him up for ever all that time hyping him will just move next door by the time he is actualy starting to make some little profits for you and chipping away at that 30 million you have sunk into him.

if he was 6'6 and 27 with loads of WSB expecence then i suspect you would be closer to correct.

[knockout]

Very difficult time to turn over for any amateur. Money is tight , shows are infrequent and things are very uncertain.

I doubt the normal offers fighters would expect after an Olympic medal will be as generous this time round.

Canelo / Floyd / paul brothers Tyson and AJ are the only ones doing good business at the moment

[JamesPhilips]

Cant say i think he was in line for that... but yea shame for him he didnt get gold. He could try next Olympics too.

Basicaly fight 4 times over the next 12 months, then 4 times in the 12 months after that after that, then twice the next 6 months after that and back into the ams for 6 months....

I am not sure what the cash parameters are for signing on figures, but come on it would’ve been huge had he hit gold. USA had a great history in Olympic boxing and love the big men yet have become a secondary or tertiary boxing nation now….. Torrez would’ve been front page news - reversing a KO loss, for an unexpected Gold as an underdog, at only 22, with fan friendly style and good looking guy…. AND If you’re inclined to mention it, he’s a white hispanic. First super heavy medal since Bowe’s rather placid silver in 1988, and first gold since Biggs in 1984. First USA MALE gold since Ward in 2004…. 16/17 years ago!

Come on man, he could name whatever price he wanted. Which US amateur turning over ever could compete with that win!?

Anyway even as an unexpected silver he’ll get plenty press and get a great offer so will prob turn pro in next year or so. He’s such an easy sell and he can even play the hard luck story of giving a great account of himself against an unbeaten 100% KO record pro and experience amateur…. Who’s Kod him as a virtual kid and when Balolov was already pro!

If he signed forever he could get a good price. still very speculative, i personaly dont expect him to get a heavyweight world title, and if he does i doubt it will be in the next 3 or 4 years. (he should fight 20++ times in the next 3 or 4 years).. So to be worth signing him for silly money you are speculating massively and the potential upside is a long time a way.... you really have to get him on a 10 year deal if your going to give him a crazy signing bonus.

If he gets 10 mill to sign and stars his purses at 1 million, you gunna drop 30 million on him befor you even relise if he is very good as a pro. and if you deal dosent snap him up for ever all that time hyping him will just move next door by the time he is actualy starting to make some little profits for you and chipping away at that 30 million you have sunk into him.

if he was 6'6 and 27 with loads of WSB expecence then i suspect you would be closer to correct.

I partially agree, but you’re thinking too much as a knowledgeable hardcore boxing fan. Torrez as a gold medallist would’ve be way bigger than a standard big boxing prospect and be the casual’s dream, even the non boxing fan would know him, and thus a marketing dream for the promoter. Even if he knows he doesn’t actually have a sure thing or a great fighter…. He knows he has a great product and story to sell to the public.

Anyway, Torrez didn’t get the Gold so it’s all speculative. Meanwhile I’ll be very interested where his career goes from here. Balolov the next big thing was hurt a couple of times even if he won clearly. I wonder what coverage the mainstream US media are giving Torrez? Anyone from the USA here who can shed light on this? How much space did he get (if any lol) in the big papers?

Finally anyone know what Joshua’s package was from Eddeh and how much he earned in his first 10 fights?

[margaret thatcher]

a gold would've definitely been a big boost...........a lot of ppl still see silver as first loser, the gold is what the americans have been trying to get for 17 years now

[JamesPhilips]

Very difficult time to turn over for any amateur. Money is tight , shows are infrequent and things are very uncertain.

I doubt the normal offers fighters would expect after an Olympic medal will be as generous this time round.

Canelo / Floyd / paul brothers Tyson and AJ are the only ones doing good business at the moment

Yes a good point. But IMO a gold medal Torrez becomes the best known boxer in the US quickly

[margaret thatcher]

a gold medal, at shw, for this personable kid with the rocky underdog story, and no doubt he could've gotten some big money even in covid

golden boy

[knockout]

Very difficult time to turn over for any amateur. Money is tight , shows are infrequent and things are very uncertain.

I doubt the normal offers fighters would expect after an Olympic medal will be as generous this time round.

Canelo / Floyd / paul brothers Tyson and AJ are the only ones doing good business at the moment

Yes a good point. But IMO a gold medal Torrez becomes the best known boxer in the US quickly

I assume he has Mexican heritage given his surname. If he can speak Spanish and tap that US Mexican audience that Oscar and Canelo managed to do, he could become a big player.

Ruiz didn’t manage it though as far as I can see ? Could be wrong but his last fight didn’t do well sales wise ?

I don’t see Torres as a heavyweight though , surely cruiserweight would be the place to start ! Division isn’t particularly strong with the three best guys having moved up or not fought for ages.

[JamesPhilips]

Very difficult time to turn over for any amateur. Money is tight , shows are infrequent and things are very uncertain.

I doubt the normal offers fighters would expect after an Olympic medal will be as generous this time round.

Canelo / Floyd / paul brothers Tyson and AJ are the only ones doing good business at the moment

Yes a good point. But IMO a gold medal Torrez becomes the best known boxer in the US quickly

I assume he has Mexican heritage given his surname. If he can speak Spanish and tap that US Mexican audience that Oscar and Canelo managed to do, he could become a big player.

Ruiz didn’t manage it though as far as I can see ? Could be wrong but his last fight didn’t do well sales wise ?

I don’t see Torres as a heavyweight though , surely cruiserweight would be the place to start ! Division isn’t particularly strong with the three best guys having moved up or not fought for ages.

From what I can find he's of Mexican American heritage, with some Euro-American blood I think. His grandfather and father were decent class amateur boxers boxing in the States.... his dad was in the 1984 US olympic trials and boxed for Team USA at some point. Don't know what weight.

The stuff online is not great journalism, but he must be the easiest sell out there, the white / Hispanic heritage, the looks, the family history, that he speaks well.

He's only 22. And can be brought along slowly. I'm a fan already, especially as he got flattened by an already professional mature Jalolov when he was only 19, yet came back to give him a test, including hurting him a bit in the final.

[imaioral]

Maiva Hamadouche was visibly robbed! Dirty f* corrupted aiba... .l.

Is there video of the fight anywhere? I missed this one...

Potkonen is pretty good. Has won all other fights pretty decisively. She has already secured bronze and has a chance for even better medal.

She won bronze in the last oympics too beating Katie Taylor for it.

She is from small country far away from the hosting nation. Not much financial incentive either Potkonen is 40 and will not join the professional ranks. So I think robbery is kind of unlikely.

I couldn't find anywhere, you didn't watch, but who saw and understand will surely agree with me, there were about 4 to 6 robbed bouts in this olympics. I watched more than half of it all, male and female.

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