Manny Pacquiao vs. Yordenis Ugas - August 21, 2021

Who wins?

Poll ended at 21 Aug 2021, 15:19

Pacquiao - Decision
31
58%
Pacquiao - T/KO
7
13%
DRAW
1
2%
Ugas - T/KO
3
6%
Ugas - Decision
11
21%
 
Total votes: 53

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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Yordenis Ugas - August 21, 2021

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ironbeard wrote: 10 Aug 2021, 17:13
caldo2025 wrote: 10 Aug 2021, 16:15 If I’m Manny, I’m telling Ugas to screw. I can’t make a change like this that late with a legendary boxer like Manny. It’s not fair at all to do. He’s been working his tail off to fight one specific boxer. Screw that. My guess is that Spence banked in the lawsuit standing in the way of this fight happening and that it didn’t, he’s unprepared. What a pusssssy.
Thanks for confirming that you are still an idiot.
And a comment from an even bigger pussssy. U can screw too dface
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Bandog wrote: 10 Aug 2021, 20:38
caldo2025 wrote: 10 Aug 2021, 16:15 If I’m Manny, I’m telling Ugas to screw. I can’t make a change like this that late with a legendary boxer like Manny. It’s not fair at all to do. He’s been working his tail off to fight one specific boxer. Screw that. My guess is that Spence banked in the lawsuit standing in the way of this fight happening and that it didn’t, he’s unprepared. What a pusssssy.
Spence is a pussy? I know people react differently to disappointment, but come on dude. He's as game as I've ever seen any boxer.
Very disappointed and that may be why I’m reacting badly but I truly hope that this is legit. I know Spence Is saying that he sought out multiple opinions but this was a check up in anticipation for the fight. How the hell do you not know that your retina is detached? I would think that’s pretty evident, no?
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ironbeard wrote: 10 Aug 2021, 22:15
KiwiRider wrote: 10 Aug 2021, 19:10 If I'm honest, I want most of all for Manny to retire healthy.
So I would prefer Ugas does it over Spence..
I agree, although I feel bad for Spence, given the exposure and juice to his legacy this fight would have brought. Spence seems to be in a spiral that he may not be able to pull up from.

Ugas, otoh, has been given the opportunity of his life.
The juice to Spences' legacy is Crawford. As been for years, car accidents considered, it still should have happened and Manny would have been the payday and icing on the cake. Yes its a shame, and a relief.

Beardie, imagine if Spence vegetabled Manny, it would be as hard to live down as losing to him.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Yordenis Ugas - August 21, 2021

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COWARD SPENCE AND CRAWFORD THE SO CALLED P4P CLOWN IN BOXING TODAY THE FUTURE :doh:
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Yordenis Ugas - August 21, 2021

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In terms of a competition this is probably better than the fight against Spence. The least would give a huge opportunity for a lagacy, which wouldn't be fulfilled. Here it's actually tough to pick a winner.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Yordenis Ugas - August 21, 2021

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caldo2025 wrote: 10 Aug 2021, 23:53
ironbeard wrote: 10 Aug 2021, 17:13
caldo2025 wrote: 10 Aug 2021, 16:15 If I’m Manny, I’m telling Ugas to screw. I can’t make a change like this that late with a legendary boxer like Manny. It’s not fair at all to do. He’s been working his tail off to fight one specific boxer. Screw that. My guess is that Spence banked in the lawsuit standing in the way of this fight happening and that it didn’t, he’s unprepared. What a pusssssy.
Thanks for confirming that you are still an idiot.
And a comment from an even bigger pussssy. U can screw too dface
Your guess? Spewing more bile on a subject that you have no clue about. Same punk, different thread and day.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Yordenis Ugas - August 21, 2021

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ironbeard wrote: 11 Aug 2021, 04:47
caldo2025 wrote: 10 Aug 2021, 23:53
ironbeard wrote: 10 Aug 2021, 17:13
Thanks for confirming that you are still an idiot.
And a comment from an even bigger pussssy. U can screw too dface
Your guess? Spewing more bile on a subject that you have no clue about. Same punk, different thread and day.
if the shit one spills is just beyond, like full on retarded with no substantial shit to even correct, else than call him out on his unfathomable thickness, just leave it there.

it's self explanatory idiocy to the maximum.

shit biscuits.
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Evander wrote: 10 Aug 2021, 21:24 Saw Ugas fight Porter, Pacquiao should beat him.
you saw ugas beat porter getting robbed.

of course pac could beat him. could easily go the other way too though.

even playfield. that's all any fighter plus every real boxing fan ever asks for.

we rarely get it, especially in 'big' fights. it's sad.

i doubt ugas can get a decision vs manny.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Yordenis Ugas - August 21, 2021

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Ugas is a seriously risky banana skin for Pacquiao.

Yordenis has got a completely different fighting style than the fighter Manny was originally preparing to face. It will be very hard to adapt at this late stage of training camp.

Ugas’ loss in the Porter fight was very controversial. Yordenis managed to do something in that bout, which most fighters couldn’t, by having the physicality to force Shawn to compete on the back foot.

Yordenis Ugas is a top-five welterweight and he’s definitely capable of scoring the upset.

The one thing I will say though, is that his work is often underappreciated by the judges.

I’ve seen him win fights he completely dominated, but was only deemed the victor by split decision.

I have also seen him lose fights that could have gone either way, with the scorecards wrongly suggesting he was absolutely dominated.

The one thing I will say though, if the Filipino hasn’t significantly declined since the Thurman bout, then I feel the Pacquiao-Ugas fight will almost certainly go to a decision.

Yordenis Ugas has only scored one legitimate KO stoppage within the last five years.

And from memory, I think Pacquiao has only stopped one opponent by KO within the last twelve years.

Prediction time (based on the assumption Manny hasn’t declined much since he fought Thurman): Pacquaio defeats Ugas by a controversial and an excessively wide margin on the judges scorecards, with the official scoring failing to reflect the true competitiveness of the bout.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Yordenis Ugas - August 21, 2021

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cock on! eo! master of poignancy!

as always u just said it so much better!
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Yordenis Ugas - August 21, 2021

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Very strange turn of events

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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Yordenis Ugas - August 21, 2021

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adislav123 wrote: 11 Aug 2021, 05:19
ironbeard wrote: 11 Aug 2021, 04:47
caldo2025 wrote: 10 Aug 2021, 23:53
And a comment from an even bigger pussssy. U can screw too dface
Your guess? Spewing more bile on a subject that you have no clue about. Same punk, different thread and day.
if the shit one spills is just beyond, like full on retarded with no substantial shit to even correct, else than call him out on his unfathomable thickness, just leave it there.

it's self explanatory idiocy to the maximum.

shit biscuits.
You are correct, adislav, I should have let his ignorant bile represent him, without comment. :salut:
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Yordenis Ugas - August 21, 2021

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 11 Aug 2021, 08:05 Very strange turn of events

Someone sieged their camps. Watch out, boxers, the crazy sparring partner is still on the freedom.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Yordenis Ugas - August 21, 2021

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caldo2025 wrote: 11 Aug 2021, 00:04
Bandog wrote: 10 Aug 2021, 20:38
caldo2025 wrote: 10 Aug 2021, 16:15 If I’m Manny, I’m telling Ugas to screw. I can’t make a change like this that late with a legendary boxer like Manny. It’s not fair at all to do. He’s been working his tail off to fight one specific boxer. Screw that. My guess is that Spence banked in the lawsuit standing in the way of this fight happening and that it didn’t, he’s unprepared. What a pusssssy.
Spence is a pussy? I know people react differently to disappointment, but come on dude. He's as game as I've ever seen any boxer.
Very disappointed and that may be why I’m reacting badly but I truly hope that this is legit. I know Spence Is saying that he sought out multiple opinions but this was a check up in anticipation for the fight. How the hell do you not know that your retina is detached? I would think that’s pretty evident, no?
I don't think he'd give up a fight like this if not legit. Glad it wasn't the "Covid card". I am pissed too, and one of the few ppvs I would have bought. Ugas is good, so he may surprise us and beat Manny. I thought he edged Porter.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Yordenis Ugas - August 21, 2021

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Bandog wrote: 11 Aug 2021, 08:43
caldo2025 wrote: 11 Aug 2021, 00:04
Bandog wrote: 10 Aug 2021, 20:38

Spence is a pussy? I know people react differently to disappointment, but come on dude. He's as game as I've ever seen any boxer.
Very disappointed and that may be why I’m reacting badly but I truly hope that this is legit. I know Spence Is saying that he sought out multiple opinions but this was a check up in anticipation for the fight. How the hell do you not know that your retina is detached? I would think that’s pretty evident, no?
I don't think he'd give up a fight like this if not legit. Glad it wasn't the "Covid card". I am pissed too, and one of the few ppvs I would have bought. Ugas is good, so he may surprise us and beat Manny. I thought he edged Porter.
You'd waste your hard stolen cash on that nonsense.... you must be fairly new to boxing and life.
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H8Usernames wrote: 11 Aug 2021, 08:49
Bandog wrote: 11 Aug 2021, 08:43
caldo2025 wrote: 11 Aug 2021, 00:04

Very disappointed and that may be why I’m reacting badly but I truly hope that this is legit. I know Spence Is saying that he sought out multiple opinions but this was a check up in anticipation for the fight. How the hell do you not know that your retina is detached? I would think that’s pretty evident, no?
I don't think he'd give up a fight like this if not legit. Glad it wasn't the "Covid card". I am pissed too, and one of the few ppvs I would have bought. Ugas is good, so he may surprise us and beat Manny. I thought he edged Porter.
You'd waste your hard stolen cash on that nonsense.... you must be fairly new to boxing and life.
:OhYes: I've probably forgot more about boxing than you know, but just a guess. There are a lot of people here that know lot's more than me, even if we disagree on who's good, etc. Personal attacks are what irritates me most in this forum, but I'm at fault sometimes too. You never stop learning. It's hard to give a compliment to a boxer that you hate, which is the case I think with you and Spence. Being a southpaw with solid all around skills makes him a good fight for anyone 147-160.
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gilgamesh wrote: 10 Aug 2021, 15:24 Still a PPV?

Does any major fight actually go down as scheduled anymore?

That being said I'm happy for Ugas, and I think he's gonna win.
I would bet they could double their PPV buys if they dropped it to $50 instead of $80. Just a guess, but hope they consider it.
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Bandog wrote: 11 Aug 2021, 10:34
gilgamesh wrote: 10 Aug 2021, 15:24 Still a PPV?

Does any major fight actually go down as scheduled anymore?

That being said I'm happy for Ugas, and I think he's gonna win.
I would bet they could double their PPV buys if they dropped it to $50 instead of $80. Just a guess, but hope they consider it.
I think that you are right. $40-45 would be a sweetspot, IMO.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Yordenis Ugas - August 21, 2021

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ironbeard wrote: 11 Aug 2021, 04:47
caldo2025 wrote: 10 Aug 2021, 23:53
ironbeard wrote: 10 Aug 2021, 17:13
Thanks for confirming that you are still an idiot.
And a comment from an even bigger pussssy. U can screw too dface
Your guess? Spewing more bile on a subject that you have no clue about. Same punk, different thread and day.
Such a tough guy aren’t you. I bet you slam down every key on ur Ma’s keyboard like it’s a Canelo body faint, don’t ya? Why comment punk? Be on your way Son, you’re baby food and I only deal with other rib eyes. Again, screw please? Tx so much mama. That was cute though honey.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Yordenis Ugas - August 21, 2021

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caldo2025 wrote: 11 Aug 2021, 12:24
ironbeard wrote: 11 Aug 2021, 04:47
caldo2025 wrote: 10 Aug 2021, 23:53
And a comment from an even bigger pussssy. U can screw too dface
Your guess? Spewing more bile on a subject that you have no clue about. Same punk, different thread and day.
Such a tough guy aren’t you. I bet you slam down every key on ur Ma’s keyboard like it’s a Canelo body faint, don’t ya? Why comment punk? Be on your way Son, you’re baby food and I only deal with other rib eyes. Again, screw please? Tx so much mama. That was cute though honey.
:lol: Says the punk calling an extremely accomplished professional athlete a “pussy” for suffering a detached retina. You are not just a punk, but an ignorant grandstanding bitch of a punk.

Resume YOUR bile spewing.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Yordenis Ugas - August 21, 2021

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Bandog wrote: 11 Aug 2021, 08:43
caldo2025 wrote: 11 Aug 2021, 00:04
Bandog wrote: 10 Aug 2021, 20:38

Spence is a pussy? I know people react differently to disappointment, but come on dude. He's as game as I've ever seen any boxer.
Very disappointed and that may be why I’m reacting badly but I truly hope that this is legit. I know Spence Is saying that he sought out multiple opinions but this was a check up in anticipation for the fight. How the hell do you not know that your retina is detached? I would think that’s pretty evident, no?
I don't think he'd give up a fight like this if not legit. Glad it wasn't the "Covid card". I am pissed too, and one of the few ppvs I would have bought. Ugas is good, so he may surprise us and beat Manny. I thought he edged Porter.
But that would make it even worse. Ugas, if he’s been remaining active which is probably the case seeing that he’s able to commit to the weight on such short notice, has a nice little advantage heading into this one. I’d hate to see Manny now lose the fight that he hasn’t even been planning for. Manny’s balls are gigantic for even taking on Spence and I don’t think that a win vs Ugas is rewarding enough. Manny at 42 can’t take Spence on a year from now and be as competitive. Just a very sad freaking situation.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Yordenis Ugas - August 21, 2021

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ironbeard wrote: 11 Aug 2021, 12:30
caldo2025 wrote: 11 Aug 2021, 12:24
ironbeard wrote: 11 Aug 2021, 04:47
Your guess? Spewing more bile on a subject that you have no clue about. Same punk, different thread and day.
Such a tough guy aren’t you. I bet you slam down every key on ur Ma’s keyboard like it’s a Canelo body faint, don’t ya? Why comment punk? Be on your way Son, you’re baby food and I only deal with other rib eyes. Again, screw please? Tx so much mama. That was cute though honey.
:lol: Says the punk calling an extremely accomplished professional athlete a “pussy” for suffering a detached retina. You are not just a punk, but an ignorant grandstanding bitch of a punk.

Resume YOUR bile spewing.
Let’s see some proof of the surgery and I’ll apologize dface. Otherwise, I don’t trust one of the postponement excuses happening in 2021. My eyes are wide open while you continue to buy anything sold from these criminal promoters. Not me. Too smart. Read a bit more
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Yordenis Ugas - August 21, 2021

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ironbeard wrote: 11 Aug 2021, 10:53
Bandog wrote: 11 Aug 2021, 10:34
gilgamesh wrote: 10 Aug 2021, 15:24 Still a PPV?

Does any major fight actually go down as scheduled anymore?

That being said I'm happy for Ugas, and I think he's gonna win.
I would bet they could double their PPV buys if they dropped it to $50 instead of $80. Just a guess, but hope they consider it.
I think that you are right. $40-45 would be a sweetspot, IMO.
It’s all about the revenue though isn’t it.

Let’s say for argument sake, the fight does 300k buys. At $80 it’s £24m Revenue.

They lower it to $45 a pop, might do an extra what? 200k buys? At 500k buys it does $22.5m..
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Yordenis Ugas - August 21, 2021

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caldo2025 wrote: 11 Aug 2021, 12:34
ironbeard wrote: 11 Aug 2021, 12:30
caldo2025 wrote: 11 Aug 2021, 12:24

Such a tough guy aren’t you. I bet you slam down every key on ur Ma’s keyboard like it’s a Canelo body faint, don’t ya? Why comment punk? Be on your way Son, you’re baby food and I only deal with other rib eyes. Again, screw please? Tx so much mama. That was cute though honey.
:lol: Says the punk calling an extremely accomplished professional athlete a “pussy” for suffering a detached retina. You are not just a punk, but an ignorant grandstanding bitch of a punk.

Resume YOUR bile spewing.
Let’s see some proof of the surgery and I’ll apologize dface. Otherwise, I don’t trust one of the postponement excuses happening in 2021. My eyes are wide open while you continue to buy anything sold from these criminal promoters. Not me. Too smart. Read a bit more
Just admit it, you’re a fornicating loser looking for any excuse to project your bile in every direction.

Most of us are pissed about the situation. Few of us are dumbass enough to label a professional athlete on the level of Spence a pussy.

Congratulations!
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