Fury should fake out of Oct 9 and let Whyte get Wilder

[candyslim]

too sad that usyk's gonna teach joahua aboxing lesson and enable that genial masterplan of the crossdressing evil empire.

I favour Joshua to prevail but it's going to be no shock if Usyk does. It's a highly competitive fight and the worst part is Joshua won't be given his due if he does retain his belts.

Many people write Usyk off as being too small but at 6' 3" he's no midget, in fact he's about the same size as Muhammad Ali and just as dominant at the weight.

Would a prime Muhammad Ali be an easy fight for Joshua because he's not big enough to compete?

[Thomastearns]

too sad that usyk's gonna teach joahua aboxing lesson and enable that genial masterplan of the crossdressing evil empire.

I favour Joshua to prevail but it's going to be no shock if Usyk does. It's a highly competitive fight and the worst part is Joshua won't be given his due if he does retain his belts.

Many people write Usyk off as being too small but at 6' 3" he's no midget, in fact he's about the same size as Muhammad Ali and just as dominant at the weight.

Would a prime Muhammad Ali be an easy fight for Joshua because he's not big enough to compete?

Usyk is good, in fact he's very good.

But he's no Ali.

Against Ali Joshua would be chasing shadows whilst eating leather - all at a breathtaking pace.

Against Usyk, Joshua will have time to think and plan, as well as pace himself for the full 12 rounds.

It should be very interesting fight neverthless.

My only slight worry is that it might be another Joshua v Parker or Joshua v Ruiz 2, but I suspect not.

[555678]

It does not matter what any expert or arnchair champions believe. Usyk on paper and media rep is considered less of a threat than the hyped up fraud wilder and the mental midget Fury. the boxing media has no understanding or concept of Usyk.

Usyk is simply an incredible boxer fighter with many dimensions, a fat F*** like dan raphael or establishment puppet mike coppinger have no idea about.

Usyk has full total belief he will beat Joshua. He has many dimensions to his arsenal he hasn't shown yet. This is the most important aspect of any fight. WHAT THE FIGHTER BELIEVES.

wilder and fury obviously did not have the belief that AJ was vulnerable or beatable or very flawed. They did not have the courage to accept huge career jackpot paydays and sign the contract to fight AJ. But Usyk did.

fury and wilder both know AJ dove in the first AJ fight because Hearn and DAZN needed a big money fight for their investors, which the Ruiz rematch was. Because if AJ was as bad as he looked in the Ruiz dive fake fight, they would have jumped out of their chair to fight AJ. If fatso ruiz could beat AJ, then wilder and fury should have believed they could do it half as fast. But they did not. They know AJ dove for Ruiz to set up the big money rematch.

Usyk is here. Usyk doens't give a F. He believes he can and will beat AJ and he can't wait to do it. Very interesting fight and it's the best hwt fight that can be made. fury and wilder have reduced themselves to being two clowns now.

[candyslim]

too sad that usyk's gonna teach joahua aboxing lesson and enable that genial masterplan of the crossdressing evil empire.

I favour Joshua to prevail but it's going to be no shock if Usyk does. It's a highly competitive fight and the worst part is Joshua won't be given his due if he does retain his belts.

Many people write Usyk off as being too small but at 6' 3" he's no midget, in fact he's about the same size as Muhammad Ali and just as dominant at the weight.

Would a prime Muhammad Ali be an easy fight for Joshua because he's not big enough to compete?

Usyk is good, in fact he's very good.

But he's no Ali.

Against Ali Joshua would be chasing shadows whilst eating leather - all at a breathtaking pace.

Against Usyk, Joshua will have time to think and plan, as well as pace himself for the full 12 rounds.

It should be very interesting fight neverthless.

My only slight worry is that it might be another Joshua v Parker or Joshua v Ruiz 2, but I suspect not.

He's no Ali. You mean he hasn't got a few defeats on his resumé?

Just kidding. There's only one Ali

[gilgamesh]

All that would happen is they both would sit around and do f*ck all of nothing for yet another year or year and a half.

[jamesmcdonnell]

too sad that usyk's gonna teach joahua aboxing lesson and enable that genial masterplan of the crossdressing evil empire.

I favour Joshua to prevail but it's going to be no shock if Usyk does. It's a highly competitive fight and the worst part is Joshua won't be given his due if he does retain his belts.

Many people write Usyk off as being too small but at 6' 3" he's no midget, in fact he's about the same size as Muhammad Ali and just as dominant at the weight.

Would a prime Muhammad Ali be an easy fight for Joshua because he's not big enough to compete?

Difference is Ali was lightning quick, and had an unbelievable chin and ability to survive when hurt.

Usky will need to fight the perfect fight to win, as he lacks firepower at heavyweight.

[jamesmcdonnell]

too sad that usyk's gonna teach joahua aboxing lesson and enable that genial masterplan of the crossdressing evil empire.

I could be wrong but Usyk is the last type of a fighter i Wouldve picked if i was Team A.J.. Usyk can very easily outbox the Robotic AJ

He will be giving away height, reach, size and power.

he may win, but I find it hard to see an easy win.

[555678]

Wilder's latest interview sounds as if he knows Fury is going to pull out. Boxing scene. He is demanding the belt and the money for the fight if Fury pulls out.

WBC sulaiman has got to realize wilder is a dead end, zero draw and will never fight AJ because he knows he will lose by KO and he will always price himself out of find some cowardly excuses.

but Whyte will fight AJ and that means wbc and sulaiman can get their huge sactioning fee for AJ vs Whyte.

wilder will only fight pbc patsies for peanuts which means peanuts sanctioning fee for sulaiman. WBC must mandate wilder fight whyte on Oct 9 after fury pulls out.

[candyslim]

too sad that usyk's gonna teach joahua aboxing lesson and enable that genial masterplan of the crossdressing evil empire.

I favour Joshua to prevail but it's going to be no shock if Usyk does. It's a highly competitive fight and the worst part is Joshua won't be given his due if he does retain his belts.

Many people write Usyk off as being too small but at 6' 3" he's no midget, in fact he's about the same size as Muhammad Ali and just as dominant at the weight.

Would a prime Muhammad Ali be an easy fight for Joshua because he's not big enough to compete?

Difference is Ali was lightning quick, and had an unbelievable chin and ability to survive when hurt.

Usky will need to fight the perfect fight to win, as he lacks firepower at heavyweight.

Well let's not get into a discussion about the relative merits of Ali and Usyk. Comparing current fighters with a past legend who has attained Godlike or at least GOATlile status is never going to be objective.

Suffice to say they are two undisputed champions of similar physical stature, each very difficult to hit, mainly due to speed in Ali's case and techique in Usyk's (though neither lacking either of those qualities), both having pretty solid whiskers and both lacking ons shot destructive power but often getting an early night due to cumulative effect.

No, the main point was that Ali would be up against the same handicap against Joshua but I doubt anyone would dismiss Ali as being too small. Both have outboxed opponents of Joshua's dimensions but both Joe Joyce and Ernie Terrell lack Joshua's handspeed or ferocious combination punching.

It should be one helluva fight. May the best man win. Whoever does will be a real champion which is not a label I could honestly ascribe to either of the gentlemen who will hopefully be contesting the WBC title next month.

[candyslim]

Wilder's latest interview sounds as if he knows Fury is going to pull out. Boxing scene. He is demanding the belt and the money for the fight if Fury pulls out.

WBC sulaiman has got to realize wilder is a dead end, zero draw and will never fight AJ because he knows he will lose by KO and he will always price himself out of find some cowardly excuses.

but Whyte will fight AJ and that means wbc and sulaiman can get their huge sactioning fee for AJ vs Whyte.

wilder will only fight pbc patsies for peanuts which means peanuts sanctioning fee for sulaiman. WBC must mandate wilder fight whyte on Oct 9 after fury pulls out.

Wilder really only ever did fight PBC patsies for relative peanuts which always made me wonder why that greedy ball of slime, Sulaiman hadn't hitched his waggon to moneybags Joshua years ago rather than persevering with crumbs from the table of his comparatively impoverished belt-holder.

He could have encouraged the Wilder/Joshua unification which in terms of sanctioning fees would have been as good as it gets and would have set up the WBC for bigger payouts in the future even if Wilder were to win.

I can only assume that Haymon knows where the bodies are buried.

[555678]

The speculation leads to alice haymon (when his masters want him to dress as a woman) manipulated sulaiman to trust the plan, to trust that wilder would become a money maker. well now we know wilder is never going to be a money maker even if they can rig fury to take a full ten count dive this time, but that's highly unlikely as Arum protects Fury's interests because Fury's interests are his own interests now.

There is no logical explanation now for the wbc to continue to protect wilder. wilder has proven he's a failure in the ring and as money making attraction outside it.

[adislav123]

I favour Joshua to prevail but it's going to be no shock if Usyk does. It's a highly competitive fight and the worst part is Joshua won't be given his due if he does retain his belts.

Many people write Usyk off as being too small but at 6' 3" he's no midget, in fact he's about the same size as Muhammad Ali and just as dominant at the weight.

Would a prime Muhammad Ali be an easy fight for Joshua because he's not big enough to compete?

Difference is Ali was lightning quick, and had an unbelievable chin and ability to survive when hurt.

Usky will need to fight the perfect fight to win, as he lacks firepower at heavyweight.

Well let's not get into a discussion about the relative merits of Ali and Usyk. Comparing current fighters with a past legend who has attained Godlike or at least GOATlile status is never going to be objective.

Suffice to say they are two undisputed champions of similar physical stature, each very difficult to hit, mainly due to speed in Ali's case and techique in Usyk's (though neither lacking either of those qualities), both having pretty solid whiskers and both lacking ons shot destructive power but often getting an early night due to cumulative effect.

No, the main point was that Ali would be up against the same handicap against Joshua but I doubt anyone would dismiss Ali as being too small. Both have outboxed opponents of Joshua's dimensions but both Joe Joyce and Ernie Terrell lack Joshua's handspeed or ferocious combination punching.

It should be one helluva fight. May the best man win. Whoever does will be a real champion which is not a label I could honestly ascribe to either of the gentlemen who will hopefully be contesting the WBC title next month.

terell was barely 200 pounds, just saying. i wouldn't compare him to the 260 demolition robot joyce is. joyce has heavy hands. t

to correct myself, terrell was 212 vs ali, i somehow thought it was 202.

[candyslim]

Quite so Adislav that's a very good point.

[566616]

Difference is Ali was lightning quick, and had an unbelievable chin and ability to survive when hurt.

Usky will need to fight the perfect fight to win, as he lacks firepower at heavyweight.

Well let's not get into a discussion about the relative merits of Ali and Usyk. Comparing current fighters with a past legend who has attained Godlike or at least GOATlile status is never going to be objective.

Suffice to say they are two undisputed champions of similar physical stature, each very difficult to hit, mainly due to speed in Ali's case and techique in Usyk's (though neither lacking either of those qualities), both having pretty solid whiskers and both lacking ons shot destructive power but often getting an early night due to cumulative effect.

No, the main point was that Ali would be up against the same handicap against Joshua but I doubt anyone would dismiss Ali as being too small. Both have outboxed opponents of Joshua's dimensions but both Joe Joyce and Ernie Terrell lack Joshua's handspeed or ferocious combination punching.

It should be one helluva fight. May the best man win. Whoever does will be a real champion which is not a label I could honestly ascribe to either of the gentlemen who will hopefully be contesting the WBC title next month.

terell was barely 200 pounds, just saying. i wouldn't compare him to the 260 demolition robot joyce is. joyce has heavy hands. t

to correct myself, terrell was 212 vs ali, i somehow thought it was 202.

Height, weight, size, and power help especially if you are good at bullying the guy around. About 99% of the heavys in the 60's and 70's are under 230, and under 6'5". Primo Canera was a freak for his time. One or two others also, and not one of them were what was considered great because of their size. All athletes are much bigger today.