WHAT A GREAT FIGHT! Thanks Gipsy King And Wilder for this great fight! One of the best HW fights in boxing history!
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Kronkpride
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Re: WHAT A GREAT FIGHT! Thanks Gipsy King And Wilder for this great fight! One of the best HW fights in boxing history!
Fury is a master boxer.....outdueled Wladimir and also used lots of boxing in Wilder #1.
Then he went to Sugar Hill. And he changed tactics on purpose to take more blows to go at Wilder to land more blows. Which has worked out pretty darn well too. For him and for boxing in general.
Fury is the definition of BOXING. The whole damn range of tactics and skills. He can do it all and easily switch between stances and styles during fights. He just might be the most adaptable fighter of all times because of his combination of size, skills, chin and boxing mind.
Then he went to Sugar Hill. And he changed tactics on purpose to take more blows to go at Wilder to land more blows. Which has worked out pretty darn well too. For him and for boxing in general.
Fury is the definition of BOXING. The whole damn range of tactics and skills. He can do it all and easily switch between stances and styles during fights. He just might be the most adaptable fighter of all times because of his combination of size, skills, chin and boxing mind.
Re: WHAT A GREAT FIGHT! Thanks Gipsy King And Wilder for this great fight! One of the best HW fights in boxing history!
Agreedjezzamundo wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 09:00 It was a great fight for us fans - extremely exciting, but let's be honest - it wasn't at the level of a Bowe-Holfield,
I appreciate it must have been edge of seat for those watching live; and both guys showed their fighting hearts as we fans expect.
But it was great for the level both of those guys are at. Whilst I am not saying it was of the skill level involved in Ward v Gatti .. it demonstrated when you have two warriors of similar ability and heart; you can get a great fight to watch.
Although just as Gatti and Ward showed .. they were a level or two down from true great fighters at top of their weight division.
Does anyone think the Bowe and Holyfield of that fight having any trouble with the Fury and Wilder of this fight?
I agree Fury is number 1 heavyweight today, and Wilder probably number 2 .. but they are the best of an absolutely terrible bunch of heavyweights today.
Re: WHAT A GREAT FIGHT! Thanks Gipsy King And Wilder for this great fight! One of the best HW fights in boxing history!
This has always been cope for Americans. ESPN die-hards deluded themselves into thinking the rest of the world pours their greatest athletes into boxing, meanwhile the US still has a far higher number of heavyweights than any other country, probably more than all other countries combined. Kellerman is on suicide watch.
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margaret thatcher
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Re: WHAT A GREAT FIGHT! Thanks Gipsy King And Wilder for this great fight! One of the best HW fights in boxing history!
that's true, usa already has way more heavys than any other country
i doubt most of the best big athletes from all these other countries are going into boxing either, boxing isnt nearly the most popular sport in most countires
i doubt most of the best big athletes from all these other countries are going into boxing either, boxing isnt nearly the most popular sport in most countires
Re: WHAT A GREAT FIGHT! Thanks Gipsy King And Wilder for this great fight! One of the best HW fights in boxing history!
Fury throws a 2 punch combination and then lays on the opponent to sap his strength. If he gets hit solidly he turtles and goes down rather than get hit again. His best weapons are holding and being flabby. Wilder has no idea how to box. He has no idea how to set up a punch, he is volume of haymakers hoping the opponent walks into 1. In the modern era of super heavyweights neither of these 2 guys would beat the Klitscho's in their primes let alone Lennox Lewis.
Re: WHAT A GREAT FIGHT! Thanks Gipsy King And Wilder for this great fight! One of the best HW fights in boxing history!
I know you mean in boxing, but it did make me chuckle..margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 20:34 that's true, usa already has way more heavys than any other country
Re: WHAT A GREAT FIGHT! Thanks Gipsy King And Wilder for this great fight! One of the best HW fights in boxing history!
Fury has the win over Wlad and probably the Fury from Wilder 2 was prime Fury. Was Wlad that far removed from his prime when he fought Fury? Granted he didn't fight again until AJ, but he had Femi all over the place didn't he? So he wasn't shot to bits. What's prime Wlad? David Haye and Povetkin on points?JoeCorrao wrote: ↑11 Oct 2021, 14:17Fury throws a 2 punch combination and then lays on the opponent to sap his strength. If he gets hit solidly he turtles and goes down rather than get hit again. His best weapons are holding and being flabby. Wilder has no idea how to box. He has no idea how to set up a punch, he is volume of haymakers hoping the opponent walks into 1. In the modern era of super heavyweights neither of these 2 guys would beat the Klitscho's in their primes let alone Lennox Lewis.
I agree on Lewis, by the way. None of them beat him.
Re: WHAT A GREAT FIGHT! Thanks Gipsy King And Wilder for this great fight! One of the best HW fights in boxing history!
Cyclops wrote: ↑11 Oct 2021, 14:30Fury has the win over Wlad and probably the Fury from Wilder 2 was prime Fury. Was Wlad that far removed from his prime when he fought Fury? Granted he didn't fight again until AJ, but he had Femi all over the place didn't he? So he wasn't shot to bits. What's prime Wlad? David Haye and Povetkin on points?JoeCorrao wrote: ↑11 Oct 2021, 14:17Fury throws a 2 punch combination and then lays on the opponent to sap his strength. If he gets hit solidly he turtles and goes down rather than get hit again. His best weapons are holding and being flabby. Wilder has no idea how to box. He has no idea how to set up a punch, he is volume of haymakers hoping the opponent walks into 1. In the modern era of super heavyweights neither of these 2 guys would beat the Klitscho's in their primes let alone Lennox Lewis.
I agree on Lewis, by the way. None of them beat him.
[/quotVlad/Fury never woulda happened when each was "prime" 2 different eras but Vlad learned to punch and set up punches. He had a suspect chin and seemed to have a blah killer instinct, but he was far more skilled than Fury, who is a great promoter of his own legacy.
Re: WHAT A GREAT FIGHT! Thanks Gipsy King And Wilder for this great fight! One of the best HW fights in boxing history!
Fury didn't beat peak Klitschko
But then Klitschko didn't lose to peak Fury either.
But then Klitschko didn't lose to peak Fury either.
Re: WHAT A GREAT FIGHT! Thanks Gipsy King And Wilder for this great fight! One of the best HW fights in boxing history!
Regardless, this era isn't over yet. We've had some bloody good fights! It pisses all over the previous era in terms of fun. Everybody should appreciate being part of it. When it's over- next year or the year after- and we finally have a definitive number one, whether it be Usyk, Fury, AJ or even somebody else- I'm sure everybody will fight in the end. It will take a while to really be able to look back on it and judge it for what it was.
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Thomastearns
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Re: WHAT A GREAT FIGHT! Thanks Gipsy King And Wilder for this great fight! One of the best HW fights in boxing history!
JoeCorrao wrote: ↑11 Oct 2021, 14:17Fury throws a 2 punch combination and then lays on the opponent to sap his strength. If he gets hit solidly he turtles and goes down rather than get hit again. His best weapons are holding and being flabby. Wilder has no idea how to box. He has no idea how to set up a punch, he is volume of haymakers hoping the opponent walks into 1. In the modern era of super heavyweights neither of these 2 guys would beat the Klitscho's in their primes let alone Lennox Lewis.
Good tactical analysis.
To be fair, even Fury didn't claim that to be one of his best performances.
Fury's greatest asset is his elusiveness but on Saturday he seemed to get carried away with his desire to punish Deontay Wilder.
There were moments towards the end of the 4th when absolutely everything could have gone the other way.
It was a great fight, but no doubt Fury would have to be a lot better to beat Usyk.
Re: WHAT A GREAT FIGHT! Thanks Gipsy King And Wilder for this great fight! One of the best HW fights in boxing history!
Sounds like you've watched only his last bout. Fury can do pretty much everything. He's been known as a behind-the-jab mover a couple of bouts before.JoeCorrao wrote: ↑11 Oct 2021, 14:17Fury throws a 2 punch combination and then lays on the opponent to sap his strength. If he gets hit solidly he turtles and goes down rather than get hit again. His best weapons are holding and being flabby. Wilder has no idea how to box. He has no idea how to set up a punch, he is volume of haymakers hoping the opponent walks into 1. In the modern era of super heavyweights neither of these 2 guys would beat the Klitscho's in their primes let alone Lennox Lewis.
Re: WHAT A GREAT FIGHT! Thanks Gipsy King And Wilder for this great fight! One of the best HW fights in boxing history!
You haven't seen much boxing or Fury for that matter if you think he's not a good boxer. He didn't look in particularly good shape this fight but he still beat Wilder, outboxed wilder for a third time. He's the best boxer at HWT, can't really dispute that.JoeCorrao wrote: ↑11 Oct 2021, 14:17Fury throws a 2 punch combination and then lays on the opponent to sap his strength. If he gets hit solidly he turtles and goes down rather than get hit again. His best weapons are holding and being flabby. Wilder has no idea how to box. He has no idea how to set up a punch, he is volume of haymakers hoping the opponent walks into 1. In the modern era of super heavyweights neither of these 2 guys would beat the Klitscho's in their primes let alone Lennox Lewis.
Re: WHAT A GREAT FIGHT! Thanks Gipsy King And Wilder for this great fight! One of the best HW fights in boxing history!
Not sure how you define everything. He has a long jab, but not a stiff jab. I remember the time he punched himself in the face with an uppercut.DrDuke wrote: ↑11 Oct 2021, 16:11Sounds like you've watched only his last bout. Fury can do pretty much everything. He's been known as a behind-the-jab mover a couple of bouts before.JoeCorrao wrote: ↑11 Oct 2021, 14:17Fury throws a 2 punch combination and then lays on the opponent to sap his strength. If he gets hit solidly he turtles and goes down rather than get hit again. His best weapons are holding and being flabby. Wilder has no idea how to box. He has no idea how to set up a punch, he is volume of haymakers hoping the opponent walks into 1. In the modern era of super heavyweights neither of these 2 guys would beat the Klitscho's in their primes let alone Lennox Lewis.
Re: WHAT A GREAT FIGHT! Thanks Gipsy King And Wilder for this great fight! One of the best HW fights in boxing history!
Remember, the WNBA has an all star game. 
Re: WHAT A GREAT FIGHT! Thanks Gipsy King And Wilder for this great fight! One of the best HW fights in boxing history!
Someone still brings his 4th pro fight a sorta evidence of being not that good.JoeCorrao wrote: ↑11 Oct 2021, 19:03Not sure how you define everything. He has a long jab, but not a stiff jab. I remember the time he punched himself in the face with an uppercut.DrDuke wrote: ↑11 Oct 2021, 16:11Sounds like you've watched only his last bout. Fury can do pretty much everything. He's been known as a behind-the-jab mover a couple of bouts before.JoeCorrao wrote: ↑11 Oct 2021, 14:17
Fury throws a 2 punch combination and then lays on the opponent to sap his strength. If he gets hit solidly he turtles and goes down rather than get hit again. His best weapons are holding and being flabby. Wilder has no idea how to box. He has no idea how to set up a punch, he is volume of haymakers hoping the opponent walks into 1. In the modern era of super heavyweights neither of these 2 guys would beat the Klitscho's in their primes let alone Lennox Lewis.![]()
Re: WHAT A GREAT FIGHT! Thanks Gipsy King And Wilder for this great fight! One of the best HW fights in boxing history!
In an era of mediocre heavies he is the cream.
Re: WHAT A GREAT FIGHT! Thanks Gipsy King And Wilder for this great fight! One of the best HW fights in boxing history!
Re: WHAT A GREAT FIGHT! Thanks Gipsy King And Wilder for this great fight! One of the best HW fights in boxing history!
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Lenny Cravats
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Re: WHAT A GREAT FIGHT! Thanks Gipsy King And Wilder for this great fight! One of the best HW fights in boxing history!
Cyclops wrote: ↑11 Oct 2021, 15:08 Regardless, this era isn't over yet. We've had some bloody good fights! It pisses all over the previous era in terms of fun. Everybody should appreciate being part of it. When it's over- next year or the year after- and we finally have a definitive number one, whether it be Usyk, Fury, AJ or even somebody else- I'm sure everybody will fight in the end. It will take a while to really be able to look back on it and judge it for what it was.
Absolutely. Boxing fans are pretty hard to please. We had 10+ years of Klitschko jab and grab. A dire era of watching Wlad jab fat blokes in the face until they tired enough for him to knock them out.
It may be true to say that there's a bit of a skill shortage, bit this is the most fun the division has been for a really long time! We've gone from one boring fighter at the top beating everyone, to a whole host of others with strengths and flaws willing to fight each other.
What I'm not happy about is the pack of the top lads fighting each other, not what's on show.