Dillian Whyte vs. Otto Wallin (October 30)

[Enlightened-One]

Fury allegedly wants to fight again early as March (or at worst, April).

You have to assume that Whyte-Wallin won’t happen until at least February of next year (TV dates, festive period, time to recover from the injury and another 12-week training camp).

Assuming the WBC grant Fury special dispensation to perform a voluntary defence, then he could end-up facing a top-fifteen ranked opponent next.

Tyson Fury was originally scheduled to fight Agit Kabayel during December of last year, with the German fighter currently rated 8th by the WBC, but Wilder's arbitration scuppered those plans.

Fury did say that he wanted a Stadium-filling hometown bout in the UK, at Old Trafford, but Fṛḁռk Wḁṛṛȅռ said that was impractical, due to the poor weather at that time of the year, coupled with Premier League scheduling.

Kabayel isn’t a big enough name to fill a stadium, but he might be a suitable opponent to fill a smaller venue, like the 02 in London.

According to the WBC’s rankings, the highest-ranked fighter aligned with Queensberry is Joe Joyce, with Tony Yoka the highest ranked boxer from Top Rank’s stable.

Fury won’t be matched against either of those two risky guys, if he’s already scheduled to face the winners of Whyte-Wallin & Joshua-Usyk II.

So I reckon Fury will end up fighting Agit Kabayel next if the venue of his next bout is in the UK, otherwise Charles Martin if he fights again in the US.

[Bandog]

https://www.BS.com/dillian-why ... on--161387

Fight is off. Whyte pulled out because of a shoulder injury.

[adislav123]

fury no way bothers to fight kabayel or martin. either joshua or usy next summer.

[Syntax Error]

It was a high risk and unnecessary fight.

I know Whyte has made a habit of taking risks, but he finally has a title shot within his grasp, so why risk that against a guy who gave Tyson Fury fits?

[joshj909]

Fury allegedly wants to fight again early as March (or at worst, April).

You have to assume that Whyte-Wallin won’t happen until at least February of next year (TV dates, festive period, time to recover from the injury and another 12-week training camp).

Assuming the WBC grant Fury special dispensation to perform a voluntary defence, then he could end-up facing a top-fifteen ranked opponent next.

Tyson Fury was originally scheduled to fight Agit Kabayel during December of last year, with the German fighter currently rated 8th by the WBC, but Wilder's arbitration scuppered those plans.

Fury did say that he wanted a Stadium-filling hometown bout in the UK, at Old Trafford, but Fṛḁռk Wḁṛṛȅռ said that was impractical, due to the poor weather at that time of the year, coupled with Premier League scheduling.

Kabayel isn’t a big enough name to fill a stadium, but he might be a suitable opponent to fill a smaller venue, like the 02 in London.

According to the WBC’s rankings, the highest-ranked fighter aligned with Queensberry is Joe Joyce, with Tony Yoka the highest ranked boxer from Top Rank’s stable.

Fury won’t be matched against either of those two risky guys, if he’s already scheduled to face the winners of Whyte-Wallin & Joshua-Usyk II.

So I reckon Fury will end up fighting Agit Kabayel next if the venue of his next bout is in the UK, otherwise Charles Martin if he fights again in the US.

I wouldn't take Sulaiman's word as gospel at all but:

"If no unification bout is secured within that time [30 days], the winner of Fury v. Wilder 3 must then fight next against the then reigning WBC Interim Heavyweight Champion." https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/1 ... tay-wilder

Why is Whyte going to face Wallin next year? This ruling was that Fury must defend vs 'interim' champion which is still Whyte. Whyte will get in the way of any voluntary as, if what we all suspect is true, his shoulder injury won't be too much of a concern once his mandatory shot is called.

For what you suggest to come true, either Whyte has a legitimate long term injury putting him out for 6+ months months, Whyte chooses to face Wallin over Fury(?) or the WBC change their mind and declare that Whyte Vs Wallin is another final eliminator.

[Enlightened-One]

Fury allegedly wants to fight again early as March (or at worst, April).

You have to assume that Whyte-Wallin won’t happen until at least February of next year (TV dates, festive period, time to recover from the injury and another 12-week training camp).

Assuming the WBC grant Fury special dispensation to perform a voluntary defence, then he could end-up facing a top-fifteen ranked opponent next.

Tyson Fury was originally scheduled to fight Agit Kabayel during December of last year, with the German fighter currently rated 8th by the WBC, but Wilder's arbitration scuppered those plans.

Fury did say that he wanted a Stadium-filling hometown bout in the UK, at Old Trafford, but Fṛḁռk Wḁṛṛȅռ said that was impractical, due to the poor weather at that time of the year, coupled with Premier League scheduling.

Kabayel isn’t a big enough name to fill a stadium, but he might be a suitable opponent to fill a smaller venue, like the 02 in London.

According to the WBC’s rankings, the highest-ranked fighter aligned with Queensberry is Joe Joyce, with Tony Yoka the highest ranked boxer from Top Rank’s stable.

Fury won’t be matched against either of those two risky guys, if he’s already scheduled to face the winners of Whyte-Wallin & Joshua-Usyk II.

So I reckon Fury will end up fighting Agit Kabayel next if the venue of his next bout is in the UK, otherwise Charles Martin if he fights again in the US.

I wouldn't take Sulaiman's word as gospel at all but:

"If no unification bout is secured within that time [30 days], the winner of Fury v. Wilder 3 must then fight next against the then reigning WBC Interim Heavyweight Champion." https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/1 ... tay-wilder

Why is Whyte going to face Wallin next year? This ruling was that Fury must defend vs 'interim' champion which is still Whyte. Whyte will get in the way of any voluntary as, if what we all suspect is true, his shoulder injury won't be too much of a concern once his mandatory shot is called.

For what you suggest to come true, either Whyte has a legitimate long term injury putting him out for 6+ months months, Whyte chooses to face Wallin over Fury(?) or the WBC change their mind and declare that Whyte Vs Wallin is another final eliminator.

Whyte is injured.

[HomicideHenry]

Kind of strange yesterday I said the worst case scenario would be Wallin beat Whyte, and Joshua beat Usyk. Now Whyte-Wallin is off. Andy Ruiz is looking more and more like a likely WBC title defense since he's #2 in the world according to that organization.

[joshj909]

Whyte is injured.

But that doesn't mean the fight will be rescheduled, nor does it mean that the injury would put him out until April, and last but not least, he may not actually be injured.

[margaret thatcher]

its not like fury is going to fight again next month........will be plenty of time for whyte to 'recover' and still be ready for a fight vs fury next

[jamesmcdonnell]

I expect Whyte's injury to be less serious than first anticipated, and he makes a speedy recovery in time to start negotiation for a fight with Fury.

[tiny_acres]

I expect Whyte's injury to be less serious than first anticipated, and he makes a speedy recovery in time to start negotiation for a fight with Fury.

Yep Whyte faked the injury to secure the payday

[mcrow24]

if whyte wins , how do his set of wins compare to wilder's?

parker
povetkin
chisora x2
rivas
wallin
helenius
browne (i figure he counts since wilder has a guy like molina)

will anyone consider ranking him above wilder (back to back ko losses, soon to have 0 wins in the last 2 years) if he beats wallin clearly? or are whytes own blips too big. for a long time we've treated aj/wilder in their own little bubble with fury, in a seperate world from guys like whyte, but is that still the reality?

I think Whyte vs Wilder if he beats Walling would be a good matchup. Whyte wins, he arguably deserves a shot at Fury. Wilder probably has a long road back to getting a shot again though but taking out Whyte would show he's still a top 4 guy.

So on top of the long list of contenders he's already beaten, you say he needs to beat Wallin AND Wilder to "arguably" get a shot at fury?.... Maybe he should also beat Ruiz, AJ, and Ortiz too just to make sure?

No. As I said elsewhere, I said he could get a title shot after beating Wallin but Whyte would make a good next opponent for Wilder as well.

Just depends. If Whyte loses to Wallin he doesn't deserve a shot at Fury. I never said he had to fight Wallin first , that match was already made.

Not sure what you're getting your undies in a bunch about?

[Enlightened-One]

Whyte is injured.

But that doesn't mean the fight will be rescheduled, nor does it mean that the injury would put him out until April, and last but not least, he may not actually be injured.

I never said Whyte’s injury would put him out of action until April.

Please read my words, because I hate repeating myself!

Maybe they’ll pay Wallin step-aside money, I don’t know, but Whyte isn’t fighting at all for the remainder of this year.

It all depends on the WBC as to whether Whyte has to beat Wallin in order to get to Fury.

Anyway, if the WBC confirms that only the winner of Whyte-Wallin can be mandated to face Fury, then we won’t see that fight happen until February.

And II’ve already explained my reasoning.

Perhaps I’ll be wrong about this, but only time will tell.

Either way, as I keep saying over-and-over again, Dillian Whyte definitely won’t fight again this year.

[KiwiRider]

Fu*k the heavyweight division. Its boring. Two, maybe 3 good fights per year. The rest of the time you have guys in a holding pattern knocking over tomato cans to stay busy, and everyone gets a little older.
Tyson Fury is going to do his bit to di*k everyone around, Joshua is waiting 7 months for a rematch no one is particularly interested in, and we wait around bored, then have to pay to see these lugs.
Look at the top 20, wasting away their primes and finishing careers with less than 40 fights.

[gregregegg]

Not concerned with Whyte injury…. I’m sure he will be healed up in a couple of weeks. Then they will go into negotiations with fury.

Only spanner in the works is when wbc clarified they said “winner of whyte wallin will fight winter of wilder fury, so I mean they could backpeddle and play technicality’s.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[mcrow24]

IDK, why Wallin thinks Whyte should have to fight him before he gets a shot at Fury. Wallin already got dismantles by Fury so not like he's getting a shot soon win or lose.

[peter barlow]

Hearn will phone up the closest thing in Essex to Dr Nick Riviera from the Simpsons

[peter barlow]

IDK, why Wallin thinks Whyte should have to fight him before he gets a shot at Fury. Wallin already got dismantles by Fury so not like he's getting a shot soon win or lose.

True but he's been fucked around and deserves something

[mcrow24]

IDK, why Wallin thinks Whyte should have to fight him before he gets a shot at Fury. Wallin already got dismantles by Fury so not like he's getting a shot soon win or lose.

True but he's been fucked around and deserves something

Wallin vs Wilder? There are other fights for Wallin. He needs multiple fights before he's deserving or a rematch, IMO.

[KiwiRider]

Hearn will phone up the closest thing in Essex to Dr Nick Riviera from the Simpsons

Hi everybody!

[peter barlow]

Hearn will phone up the closest thing in Essex to Dr Nick Riviera from the Simpsons

Hi everybody!

Hi Doctor Nick

[Ruthless-RKO]

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Shoulder injury hahaha

[candyslim]

From what I know of Dillian it could well be genuine but if it wasn't, if it was an attempt to get out of an inconvenient commitment I'd be pleased that he's finally wised up.

I suppose you can't blame Wallin's manager, he's got to protect his fighter's interests, but I did have to laugh when I read that he'd said the fight has to be rescheduled in fairness to Otto and the integrity of the sport of Boxing (yeah, like it had any) "Whyte can't be allowed to walk straight into a title fight with Fury".

Listen mate. Wait until Otto has been fukced about by the governing body for four years, breaking their own rules to protect the champion and deprive you of the mandatory slot, then when you overcome every obstacle they throw at you to finally become mandatory, then they allow your compatriot who hasn't fought for two and a half years to come from nowhere and jump in front of you after beating one nobody and one totally washed irrelevant fighter, and then make you wait a further two and a half years while he engages in a trilogy of fights with the champion they cheated you out of fighting.

So you spend all that time fighting and mostly beating, fighters in or around the top ten in the world until finally it looks like you might finally get the title shot you should have got years ago provided you beat one last decent fighter who has done f* ck all to earn his chance, failing which he takes your rightful place.

When you've done all that Otto, then I might listen to your manager bleating about how unfair it would be on poor you.