No rumor for fight from Filip Hrgovic ?

[joshj909]

He doesn't say how much they were offering.
I expect it was the sort of peanuts that buys you Alexander?
Is this how the bogeyman crap started about Ortiz?

As an eliminator wouldn't it have gone to purse bids with fixed splits?

I might have this wrong, but the eliminator is Martin/Ortiz
The main issue is Hrgovic doesn't have any reward if you fight him except money. So if the money is no good, you get guys like he has been fighting, and now Alexander.

I could be well be wrong, but that is how I understand it.

I believe Hrgovic is ranked 3rd behind Martin so Ortiz/Martin would only be an eliminator prior to the winner facing Hrgovic or whoever Hrgovic was supposed to face. It appears that Sauerland is suggesting that nobody ranked in the top 15 was willing to be in the other eliminator against Hrgovic so it looks like he's been given a bye. So, if I'm understanding that correctly, it would have been fixed splits with purse bids as an eliminator. I may be wrong though as the promoters and commission's are always full of s**t. Either way, I agree that there still would've been better opponents than Alexander.

[KiwiRider]

As an eliminator wouldn't it have gone to purse bids with fixed splits?

I might have this wrong, but the eliminator is Martin/Ortiz
The main issue is Hrgovic doesn't have any reward if you fight him except money. So if the money is no good, you get guys like he has been fighting, and now Alexander.

I could be well be wrong, but that is how I understand it.

I believe Hrgovic is ranked 3rd behind Martin so Ortiz/Martin would only be an eliminator prior to the winner facing Hrgovic or whoever Hrgovic was supposed to face. It appears that Sauerland is suggesting that nobody ranked in the top 15 was willing to be in the other eliminator against Hrgovic so it looks like he's been given a bye. So, if I'm understanding that correctly, it would have been fixed splits with purse bids as an eliminator. I may be wrong though as the promoters and commission's are always full of s**t. Either way, I agree that there still would've been better opponents than Alexander.

Right.
I like your optimism re Hrgovic facing the winner of Father Time and Walks This Earth.
I expect the winner of that to be the #1 contender in a wait that could last at least 8 months, maybe longer. No one wants to face Hrgovic unless they have to. If he had money behind him to get decent fights, was 10X more active and made a name for himself, a fan base out side of Croatia and boxing junkies, then different story. We know about him, casuals ask "Flipper who?"
Look how long guys like Uysk and Whyte have had to wait for a chance after becoming #1 contenders, and they are name guys with decent exposure.
And until Sauerland fronts up proper money to get proper guys to fight him, it could just be a stream of Alexanders..

[peter barlow]

Confirmed Scott Alexander on Haney Diaz undercard

[maverick23]

Confirmed Scott Alexander on Haney Diaz undercard

Yep - another poor fight for Hrgovic.

Interestingly the NY athletic commission refused to approve Michael Hunter’s fight against De Mori which I’m glad about.

It’s insane that De Mori is still inside the top 10 of the WBA rankings yet can’t get approved as an opponent for Hunter.

I’m glad with the NY commission’s position but it just further exposes the stupidly of the WBA.

[adislav123]

pure shitshow. just embarrassing.

frikkin' alexander after losing to negron get's a shot at hrg's ibf international strap. mindboggling!

[Frede6]

Hrgowho ? Is it a joke ?

[Mexi-Box]

Not sure what you can do. Dude just isn't popular, and a red-hot contender like Michael Hunter won't risk his title shot fighting against a dude that draws -1 fans. Zero reward if he beats Hrgovic too. Just doesn't make sense. Hrgovic just needs to maintain a good presence in the US or Britain, stop fighting overseas.

What title shot, I don't think Hunter is due a title shot from any of the alphabet bodies?

And where is he, and when is his next fight? Is he still promoted by Triller. I'm afraid it's high time these guys like Hrgovic, Hunter, Bakole and Joyce start fighting each other to actually earn a title shot.

Wtf, Hunter already stopped Bakole. He has an easy title shot as a mandatory for whomever has him on the rankings. they'll likely split the belts up before long. Not seen belt rankings in a while, but he'll sneak up at some point like most top 10 dudes end up doing. No point in fighting Hrgovic in the meantime. Maybe Joyce who he might be able to beat... if he can hold up that onslaught.

[morm]

My contract with Team Sauerland expires next year, there are a lot of things you don't know that are going on in the background. Would you invest in a boxer you know is leaving you? Maybe that's the problem, maybe there's more business. But I wouldn't go into details. "

Say Hrgovic in croat media, i think he is very angry.

[Enlightened-One]

"Filip Hrgovic ready for Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk as he dismisses Alen Babic"

The Croatian heavyweight returns to the ring on December 4th.

Filip Hrgovic is ready to test himself against the leading names at heavyweight. Following a successful amateur career that included multiple honours at prestigious tournaments, Hrgovic made the inevitable move to the professional ranks in 2017 and his apprenticeship is almost up.

On December 4th, as a chief support act to Devin Haney’s world lightweight title defence against JoJo Diaz, Hrgovic will take on Scott Alexander, live on DAZN. If successful, Hrgovic is ready to take a giant leap up the heavyweight rankings, and he believes the time is right to test himself against the division’s leading names.

“I’m ready for them all. Tyson Fury, Oleksandr Usyk, and Anthony Joshua,” said Hrgovic during an exclusive chat with DAZN. “These are fights I’d like to happen in 2022 and I’d be more than happy to back myself against all of these fighters but I’m not sure if these fights can be made.

“If I have to wait longer for these fights then there’s plenty of other fighters in the division who I could fight that could get me into a position to fight Tyson Fury or Oleksandr Usyk. There’s a number of fighters below the top guys that I like the look of so if the biggest fights can’t be made then I’d be happy to take on the fighters just below them.

Despite possessing grand targets within the sport, one opponent consistently linked with Hrgovic is his fellow Croatian, Alen Babic. A regular fixture on Matchroom shows in the U.K., Babic has blasted his way through a selection of domestic level opponents, which has earned him some popularity in the sport.

With both fighters representing their nation with immense pride, a fight night in Croatia in front of a huge crowd would do decent business for all involved. With Hrgovic setting his sights as high as possible, does a meeting with Babic provide him with any desire at all?

“He’s enjoying his five minutes of glory at the moment but he knows he can’t beat me. Why would I want to fight him? His talk about me is just for him to use my name for himself. It would be one of my easiest fights and I think he knows that too. I only want big fights next year so a fight against him [Babic] is not what I’m looking at.”

[Enlightened-One]

In reference to the previous post/article:

Surely bouts against fellow Croatians Mark De Mori and Alen Babic would be more meaningful fights for him than the mismatches he's constantly engaged in against anonymous foes?

For the record, I’m not claiming that De Mori and Babic are particularly good fighters, because they aren't, but in terms of career progression, there are a lot of positives he can take from beating those guys (i.e. improves his WBA ranking, and gaining media exposure in his homeland, as well as improving the awareness of British fight fans).

That said, apparently Filip Hrgovic feels that Scott Alexander is a better opponent than Alen Babic, but I respectfully disagree.

[morm]

Would you invest in a boxer you know is leaving you?

Hrgovic words

That is the point..... i mean

Babic fight only for a title or Babic fight soon anybody into the Ibf top 15 and win.
But i think Babics train going in direction brigherweight for now

[Enlightened-One]

Would you invest in a boxer you know is leaving you?

Hrgovic words

That is the point..... i mean

Babic fight only for a title or Babic fight soon anybody into the Ibf top 15 and win.
But i think Babics train going in direction brigherweight for now

Has Hrgovic been trying to leave the Sauerland brothers for the last four years? They haven’t really invested in him. And nor have they tried to establish a fanbase.

I feel that Hrgovic hasn't earned the right to flatly refuse to consider opportunities to engage in bouts against opponents, such as Babic, that are clearly better than calibre of journeymen he’s currently facing.

For the record, I’ve seen Hrgovic compete in the amateurs and the WSB. I know he used to be a good fighter. I once considered him an exciting prospect.

But I’m not so sure if it’s possible for him to have improved since he made his pro debut more than four years ago, because he’s fleshier (25lbs heavier) and the calibre of opposition he’s facing nowadays is actually worse the opponent he fought in his very first outing.

[gregregegg]

Would you invest in a boxer you know is leaving you?

Hrgovic words

That is the point..... i mean

Babic fight only for a title or Babic fight soon anybody into the Ibf top 15 and win.
But i think Babics train going in direction brigherweight for now

If you have a fighter like hrg that you know is going to leave you should make a deal and mutualy terminate your contract imeedietly. Mabey hrg has to pay a bit off, mabey saunderlers does i dont know the details, but this is mutualy terrible.

hrgs carer is going to waste, and any future prospect watching willl use this as a warning befor signing with Kalle and co.

[peter barlow]

Kalle says now that Ortiz Vs Martin is a semi final eliminator and winner will be mandated to fight Hrgovic in final eliminator. But claims they may duck the fight.

[Enlightened-One]

I’ve been watching quite a few Filip Hrgović interview videos over the last few days, which were filmed before and after his most recent mismatch against Emir Ahmatovic.

Anyway, it’s abundantly clear that he’s frustrated about how his career has been controlled by Wasserman and Matchroom USA.

• He hinted that he was unhappy with his paydays, because he could only afford a McDonald's takeaway to celebrate his most recent victory. It was half said in jest, but you kind of knew he meant it.

• He admitted he couldn’t say much more, by actually complaining about his handlers, otherwise they’ll punish him, by refraining from making big fights during 2022.

• He said his promoters always promise big things for him every year, but nothing actually happens.

• He also admitted that it's extremely challenging to be motivated and be at his best against appalling Ahmatovic calibre opposition.

• And interestingly, he claimed he wasn’t ready to face the very best heavyweights competing today.

• He said he needs two or three bouts against ‘Dereck Chisora’ type opposition in order to improve and be ready for his world title shot opportunity, despite the fact he’s on the cusp of becoming the IBF’s mandatory challenger.

The rumour-mill currently suggests that Filip Hrgović’s next opponent (in March or April) could be Zhang Zhilei, with the bout staged in China.

One final thought, I wasn’t impressed by Filip Hrgović’s performance against Emir Ahmatovic, because I felt he treated his opponent with contempt and needlessly took too many blows.

He probably felt (quite rightly) that Ahmatovic couldn’t hurt him, so he abandoned many boxing fundamentals, in preference to bludgeoning his opponent into submission.

In my opinion though, if he has to keep wasting his time engaging in mismatches, due to being poorly promoted, then I’d prefer to see him learning new techniques in the gym and then executing them during his bouts, coupled with facing opposition with varied physical attributes and fighting styles.

At this point in time, Filip Hrgović’s career is a bit like Groundhog Day, he just keeps bludgeoning the same type of opposition into submission like a one-dimensional Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robot!

I’m sure I’ve seen his technique being more fundamentally sound in videos of him in action during sparring, competing in the WSB, and also in the amateur ranks. So perhaps competing in so many mismatches has made him complacent.

That said, I’m really pleased about Hrgović being frustrated about his lack of career progression, coupled with him being humble enough to realise he’s inexperienced and needs to face tougher opposition prior to engaging in a world title fight.

Fingers crossed that 2022 is the year he finally engages in a meaningful fight.

[Enlightened-One]

Immediately after engaging in last weekend’s mismatch against Oleksandr Teslenko, Jared Anderson called out Filip Hrgovic.

However, the American isn’t rated by any of the big four governing bodies.

And last month, Kalle Sauerland explicitly stated he won’t consider fights for Hrgovic against any big names unless it’s for a final eliminator, hence the reason why Wasserman won’t attempt to make the Daniel Dubois fight.

So unfortunately, I wouldn’t expect to see Filip Hrgovic facing the likes of Daniel Dubois or Jared Anderson anytime soon.

The best we can hope for, is to see Hrgovic face Zhang Zhilei.

And I personally don’t consider the fighter from China as being a top-twenty world-rated heavyweight.

[margaret thatcher]

hell, at this point id be all up for zhang, at least a step in the better direction. fill's opponents have been so dreadful, 3 of the last 4 i hadnt even heard of, and im one of these dudes who browses the boxrec rankings all the time

[Ruthless-RKO]

Dreadful..

[gregregegg]

hell, at this point id be all up for zhang, at least a step in the better direction. fill's opponents have been so dreadful, 3 of the last 4 i hadnt even heard of, and im one of these dudes who browses the boxrec rankings all the time

Fuk your a casual. how have you not heard of Alexandre Kartozia... global house hold superstar,top 5 P4P binmen in Greece.

[Thomastearns]

I’ve been watching quite a few Filip Hrgović interview videos over the last few days, which were filmed before and after his most recent mismatch against Emir Ahmatovic.

• He hinted that he was unhappy with his paydays, because he could only afford a McDonald's takeaway to celebrate his most recent victory. It was half said in jest, but you kind of knew he meant it.

• He said his promoters always promise big things for him every year, but nothing actually happens.

• And interestingly, he claimed he wasn’t ready to face the very best heavyweights competing today.

• He said he needs two or three bouts against ‘Dereck Chisora’ type opposition in order to improve and be ready for his world title shot opportunity, despite the fact he’s on the cusp of becoming the IBF’s mandatory challenger.

In my opinion though, if he has to keep wasting his time engaging in mismatches, due to being poorly promoted, then I’d prefer to see him learning new techniques in the gym and then executing them during his bouts, coupled with facing opposition with varied physical attributes and fighting styles.

Fingers crossed that 2022 is the year he finally engages in a meaningful fight.

Patience young padawan.

It's all part of the masterplan.

All will be revealed later.

You will see it all as you relax on your luxury yacht one day in the Seychelles.

But first we must let messrs Usyk, Fury and Joshua have their swansong

Then the crown will be yours, and yours alone.

[KiwiRider]

hell, at this point id be all up for zhang, at least a step in the better direction. fill's opponents have been so dreadful, 3 of the last 4 i hadnt even heard of, and im one of these dudes who browses the boxrec rankings all the time

Fuk your a casual. how have you not heard of Alexandre Kartozia... global house hold superstar,top 5 P4P binmen in Greece.

Greek binmen

[JamesPhilips]

Lol this thread is now 2 1/2 years old

[gregregegg]

Lol this thread is now 2 1/2 years old

Still has hardly even been a rumour of a decent scrap... and defiantly non with any truth to them.

[JamesPhilips]

Lol this thread is now 2 1/2 years old

Still has hardly even been a rumour of a decent scrap... and defiantly non with any truth to them.

Yeah truly downheartening